Sadly my sister fell prey to their indoctrination in college. Can confirm that they are mentally unstable- she once smashed a wine glass against a wall while having a discussion with myself and my dad about illegal immigration.
Liberals get them while they are young just as Radical Islam gets to their youth when they are young. It's very difficult to deprogram from the cults that start that early and are such a large group.
I spend 3 days arguing with a twit on Youtube. Must have been a recent graduate of some humanities course. He was hammering me with stats (which of course are all made up to favor themselves, and then they can claim the "science" advantage).
So I had to change strategy. Since his position was so logical and evidence based, then I challenged his logic. These cunts like to flip you and change the subject once they start losing, but the trick is not to let go. Stick to the one point you got'em on and hammer until they answer or disengage. So of course, the guy ceded at the end, and did not continue.
I mention this because it's so easy for these pieces of shit to overwhelm those who aren't too knowledgeable and don't easily understand logical arguments. They just keep on hammering with their doctored stats (which of course you can't prove wrong) and you have no leverage to gain the upper hand, unless you have a foothold on basic logic.
That sounds a bit like my experience. What's a good place to learn logic? Some of their arguments are just so out there that they lose me. Or there are times where their conclusion sounds logical on the surface, even when I know its wrong, but don't know how to challenge it.
Hmm, I don't know if there's any particular place when you can learn "logic" in the sense you refer to here. One of the biggest problems we face is all the "fake news" on both sides, the left and the right. You end up believing something proliferated by your team, but in an argument the other guy slams you with facts that show it's not true. You start digging into it, and bam! you find out he's right, you got took by the fake news, and now you look like a tool. A guy good for concentrating on facts is Stefan Molyneux. Even he makes lapses of judgement though.
Really though, if you're going to argue something, you need to know as much about it as possible, which means reading all the talking points of the right, and then the ones on the left. You need to know their arguments and if they have merit or not.
Example: One of the easy ways to sucker people in college, especially women, is to attack the rich as being thieves. Not every rich person has stolen what they have, but in a general sense most HAVE stolen it. I remember a book I read had a quote "no one gets to a million without stepping on some backs, and backstabbing a few people on the way".
So even though there's a kernel of truth to it, it's enough to arouse our anger, disdain, and even envy, and BAM! you got another indoctrinated kid.
Libs are mentally and logically unstable.
Sadly my sister fell prey to their indoctrination in college. Can confirm that they are mentally unstable- she once smashed a wine glass against a wall while having a discussion with myself and my dad about illegal immigration.
Whole thing was pretty unreal
Probably. She's had that stupid black square on her facebook profile for a couple of days now
Hey, they're naming streets after him now
Mine made her 3 y.o hold up a BLM sign so she could virtue signal on Instagram
Liberals get them while they are young just as Radical Islam gets to their youth when they are young. It's very difficult to deprogram from the cults that start that early and are such a large group.
so I live in a relatively white rural area but I've heard that the indoctrination is unreal in more liberal areas. Starts right from kindergarden.
I spend 3 days arguing with a twit on Youtube. Must have been a recent graduate of some humanities course. He was hammering me with stats (which of course are all made up to favor themselves, and then they can claim the "science" advantage). So I had to change strategy. Since his position was so logical and evidence based, then I challenged his logic. These cunts like to flip you and change the subject once they start losing, but the trick is not to let go. Stick to the one point you got'em on and hammer until they answer or disengage. So of course, the guy ceded at the end, and did not continue.
I mention this because it's so easy for these pieces of shit to overwhelm those who aren't too knowledgeable and don't easily understand logical arguments. They just keep on hammering with their doctored stats (which of course you can't prove wrong) and you have no leverage to gain the upper hand, unless you have a foothold on basic logic.
That sounds a bit like my experience. What's a good place to learn logic? Some of their arguments are just so out there that they lose me. Or there are times where their conclusion sounds logical on the surface, even when I know its wrong, but don't know how to challenge it.
Hmm, I don't know if there's any particular place when you can learn "logic" in the sense you refer to here. One of the biggest problems we face is all the "fake news" on both sides, the left and the right. You end up believing something proliferated by your team, but in an argument the other guy slams you with facts that show it's not true. You start digging into it, and bam! you find out he's right, you got took by the fake news, and now you look like a tool. A guy good for concentrating on facts is Stefan Molyneux. Even he makes lapses of judgement though.
Really though, if you're going to argue something, you need to know as much about it as possible, which means reading all the talking points of the right, and then the ones on the left. You need to know their arguments and if they have merit or not.
Example: One of the easy ways to sucker people in college, especially women, is to attack the rich as being thieves. Not every rich person has stolen what they have, but in a general sense most HAVE stolen it. I remember a book I read had a quote "no one gets to a million without stepping on some backs, and backstabbing a few people on the way".
So even though there's a kernel of truth to it, it's enough to arouse our anger, disdain, and even envy, and BAM! you got another indoctrinated kid.
Democrats are the cognitive dissonance party for the noncognitive dissident.