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posted ago by LamestreamMedia ago by LamestreamMedia +10 / -0

“Population benchmarks provide only a crude method for estimating disproportionality. They allow for an inference that force is being used in a manner that is disproportionate to presence in the general population, but do not allow for a clear inference as to whether the force is disproportionate to presence in any particular area or to legitimately provocative behavior. A more direct, albeit still limited, proxy for level of provocative behavior would be actual offending.”

  • Goff et al. in Policing Equity (2016)
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Tx50bmg 3 points ago +3 / -0

You can’t explain anything to the true believers.

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LamestreamMedia [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

Oh man, let’s hope not many are true believers and simply misinformed (like I used to be).

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Tx50bmg 2 points ago +2 / -0

The more moderate liberals are getting some serious redpilling, both by the riots as well as the Coronavirus 180. Those that truly believe literally embrace the “by any means necessary (BAMN)” slogan and seek to destroy the US.

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LamestreamMedia [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

I was in the corona red pill camp. I did a full 180 once I started noticing the hypocrisy in real time. Unfortunately, like you say, many of my friends have only become more entrenched in their views since the pandemic.

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Tx50bmg 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yep, it’s pretty sad because many of them are “educated” but don’t bother to think for themselves.

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LamestreamMedia [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

Link to the full paper by Goff et al.

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Natediggity 2 points ago +2 / -0

And the study still gives into Black racial disparity in use of force narrative. Even after showing that when accounting for all arrests the gap closes from 3.8 x as likely as whites to 1.3 x. And then for violent crime rates the trend reverses and whites are more likely to experience use of force. SMH. Gotta keep that funding though.

But I think they nailed it with this gem. "might racial disparities in the tendency to resist, flee, or disrespect officers be implicated in the observed differences? Might cultural mismatches and/or officers’ perceptions of cooperation be influenced by residents’ race? There is some suggestive evidence that there are racial disparities in resistance based on research by Smith and colleagues for the National Institute of Justice. They find that the rate of officer injury is lower when arresting a White suspect than a suspect of another racial group (Smith et al., 2009)." A HUGE segment of black culture GLORIFIES the Fuck the Police mantra! Example: See Rap

Here is another good study about police shootings showing no racial bias when violent crime rates are accounted for. https://msutoday.msu.edu/news/2019/the-truth-behind-racial-disparities-in-fatal-police-shootings/ Link to the source study in the article.

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LamestreamMedia [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

The socio-cultural differences perspective is fascinating and important to account for on a scientific level. Yet, liberals would probably say it is racist to even consider that.

The Johnson et al. study linked in the article was one of the more unbiased studies I've seen in the field. It's scary that it was met with so much criticism from people who seemed eager to force read a black victomhood narrative.

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Natediggity 2 points ago +2 / -0

In liberals' eyes it is racist to consider socio-cultural differences because to them there are no differences. We're all equal don't ya know? Remember that next time you are choosing your surgeon. Considering that has ramifications for their whole ideology.

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LamestreamMedia [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

The idea that everyone is the same from a medical standpoint is frightening. Discrimination, in terms of the very basic meaning of the word, is one of the pillars of science and medicine. But this ideology is taking over like an incessant virus. I recently read an article in the Brown alumni magazine that called for removing the idea of race from medical training.

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Natediggity 1 point ago +1 / -0

People of all colors and genders judge, and discriminate. It's a natural evolutionary survival mechanism. It's a big reason why humans are the top of the food chain. Without the ability to discriminate we'd all be victims of everything from manipulation and extortion, to murder. Or be convinced to cut our genitals off because gender is a social construct. Without the ability to discriminate we would make really bad decisions. Like voting for democrats for 60 years, while our cities crumble, poverty worsens, and people are left behind. And then blame it all on discrimination. Probably why the left have made it racist to discriminate against their ideas. They attack the language. Demonize it. Rob the people of their right to discriminate for their own interests. Then rule...

Would you post a link to that Smith study? I'd like to read it, and put it in my arsenal.

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nuhbin 2 points ago +2 / -0

police interactions are skewed towards black and brown

but they happen to be skewed almost the exact same amount and direction as all other policing stats

reports of suspects fitting description, interactions, arrests, convictions, shot by police and shit while unarmed all line up in a pretty convincing manner

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