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saveMySpeech 4 points ago +4 / -0

Data should not distract from morals.

So her morals are based on lies. According to her, anyone who lies is morally superior than someone who tells the truth because hard data is truth.

Also, the data is questionable.

LOL. I bet she's never even seen the actual data.

HARD FACT: Hispanics and then black officers are more likely to shoot an unarmed black suspect as compared to a white officer.

Stats for unarmed blacks shot by cops:

https://www.phillypolice.com/assets/directives/cops-w0753-pub.pdf

Page 32

Definition of OIS (Officer involved shooting) is on page 17

Definition of TPFs (threat perception failures) is on page 30

TPF of white officer against black suspect is 6.8

TPF of black officer against black suspect is 11.4

TPF of hispanic officer against black suspect is 16.7

Aka Hispanics and then black officers are more likely to shoot an unarmed black suspect. The claim that white officers are more likely to kill black suspects is complete bullshit. White cops are the least likely to kill unarmed blacks. (Stats for asian cops isn't available as it's negligible.)


Also even after adjusting for population:

https://www.pnas.org/content/116/32/15877

There is widespread concern about racial disparities in fatal officer-involved shootings and that these disparities reflect discrimination by White officers. Existing databases of fatal shootings lack information about officers, and past analytic approaches have made it difficult to assess the contributions of factors like crime. We create a comprehensive database of officers involved in fatal shootings during 2015 and predict victim race from civilian, officer, and county characteristics. We find no evidence of anti-Black or anti-Hispanic disparities across shootings, and White officers are not more likely to shoot minority civilians than non-White officers. Instead, race-specific crime strongly predicts civilian race. This suggests that increasing diversity among officers by itself is unlikely to reduce racial disparity in police shootings.

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/1948550618775108?journalCode=sppa

Is there evidence of a Black–White disparity in death by police gunfire in the United States? This is commonly answered by comparing the odds of being fatally shot for Blacks and Whites, with odds benchmarked against each group’s population proportion. However, adjusting for population values has questionable assumptions given the context of deadly force decisions. We benchmark 2 years of fatal shooting data on 16 crime rate estimates. When adjusting for crime, we find no systematic evidence of anti-Black disparities in fatal shootings, fatal shootings of unarmed citizens, or fatal shootings involving misidentification of harmless objects. Multiverse analyses showed only one significant anti-Black disparity of 144 possible tests. Exposure to police given crime rate differences likely accounts for the higher per capita rate of fatal police shootings for Blacks, at least when analyzing all shootings. For unarmed shootings or misidentification shootings, data are too uncertain to be conclusive.

WSJ article on the myth of systematic police racism:

http://archive.is/JDNxE


Blacks commit 52.6% of murders and non-negligent manslaughter and 54.5% of robberies.

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2016/crime-in-the-u.s.-2016/topic-pages/tables/table-21

2600 blacks were murdered by other blacks in 2018:

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2018/crime-in-the-u.s.-2018/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-6.xls


In 2018, 2600 black lives were taken by black offenders. Only 234 black lives were taken by white. 2677 white lives were taken by white offenders. 514 white lives were taken by black. 60% of population is white whereas only 13% is black. What does this tell you?

This is OBJECTIVE raw data. Not some subjective data what media might tell people. Blacks kill their own blacks, whites kill their own whites. If these protestors really cared about "black lives matter", they would be talking about why so many blacks are killing their own people. Same shit for whites. Also more black people targeting white than white targeting black.

What we should be doing is providing more mental health help to cops and stop burdening cops with everything. Watch this Larry Elder video and listen to what the police chief says after 5 minute mark. Don't be part of the problem - be part of the solution. If you think there are issues in policing, join the police youself and help improve it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUOO1ZZb8Is

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LamestreamMedia [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

This is a great resource, thank you. Presenting more data to an anti-data believer might be difficult, but we'll see how this goes.