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the_shootist 1 point ago +5 / -4

George Floyd wasn't a good dude. But he still shouldn't have been killed by the police. It is possible to believe both that the police responded inappropriately in his case AND that the rioting/looting/violence is completely abhorrent. The left is trying to force us to align with the police when we should be condemning his death as well as the resulting violence

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CrashXXL [S] 5 points ago +5 / -0

He shouldn’t have been killed by the police, he should have been killed by that woman’s family 10 years ago.

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the_shootist 2 points ago +3 / -1

sure, you point a gun at another person, you should expect to die. That's fair. But he wasn't killed back then and it doesn't give the police license to do what they did, 10 years later

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the_shootist 4 points ago +4 / -0

I don't think anyone here is worshipping him as a martyr. He shouldn't be held up as an example of anything. But it is still possible to acknowledge that his death, wholly unconnected with his reprehensible actions 10 years ago, was due to overly aggressive police tactics/brutality. The Minneapolis PD is sketchy AF

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dems_be_crazy 1 point ago +2 / -1

I agree. Unfortunately, the pushback to the lefts hero worship of Floyd has been pushed too far, itself. No matter how flawed he was, it doesn't absolve the police of the recklessness that lead to his death in this case. That's not how justice works.

Crenshaw is certainly virtue signalling, but he's not wrong. It saddens me that a man lost his life in this way as well.

Hopefully, the initial over-reaction to the response will mellow and we can see there is indeed a problem and we should offer solutions because the socialists and race peddlers are.

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the_shootist 2 points ago +2 / -0

yeah I lost all respect for Crenshaw when he started sponsoring red-flag confiscation laws