I think I've finally had enough of their bullshit. I used to be an obnoxious liberal but sometime in 2014 before the midterms I came to my senses. Some of these people have been my friends for years so I've put up with their snarky comments, telling me I'm misguided or confused and I'll come to my senses. I've put up with them ganging up on me and yelling in my face about how and why I'm wrong. I've put up with the constant Trump and Conservative bashing. But after these last two weeks of all of them pandering and virtue signaling I finally think I'm done. I've never heard a single of one them ever mention black inequalities or their concern for black lives. Some of them are posting ways to defund the police. I think I've hung on for so long because everyone I know is a liberal and if I stop hanging out with them, I'll have no friends left but at this point I would rather be friendless than surrounded by a bunch of mindless hypocrites.
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You won’t be friendless; I’ll be there for you whenever you need me.
Aww thanks :)
Maga_simp just made me throw up in my mouth lmao. But I still would have drinks with any one of you clowns.
Lol
king simp!
I think in the context of maga simp stands for simple meme merchant
They are brainwashed. If they really cared about black lives they would be amplifying the black voices in Libya where actual slave markets continue to operate unabated. All their talking points are from Colbert or the social media pages they follow. Nobody is forcing us to come to thedonald.win. We are here because we had a feeling something was off and found this beacon of sanity online, an oasis in a desert that shows we are not alone. It’s going to be alright, we are on the right side of history. Pax Americana will commence again you can be sure of it
Exactly, but speaking facts these days automatically makes you a racist lol!
It’s so bad here in Canada. I don’t know anyone who is not a brainwashed idiot. I have given up trying to talk sense into anyone with facts, reason, logic, common sense or independent thinking. I realize I am not dealing with individuals, I’m dealing with representatives of a herd of sheep. I’m not influencing what the herd thinks when I am talking to one of them, so I can not make any progress lol. It’s pretty depressing and isolating.
Same in Australia. Every time I think my acquaintances and colleagues have finally reached peak insanity they find a way to go further. I am the only non-far leftist I know, with the exception of one family member.
It’s like they can not believe anyone could think anything different than the herd. It’s literally offensive to them to hear other opinions. I think since what they think or believe is just what they think everyone else thinks or believes, there is no substance to them. Right or wrong, at least I can articulate what I think and why I think it and back it up with facts and logic and reasons. Not so for the sheeple. They get irrationally angry and launch into personal insults because all they have to back themselves up is this unshakable belief that the vast majority of people must be right! Then maybe they might ask me if I also believe the earth is flat! Lol The irony...
I'm a teacher in L.A. (for a couple more days, anyway). Almost all the teachers are brainwashed, and yes, they cannot BEAR to hear other opinions. They almost panic: "Stop, stop, don't talk anymore, go somewhere else and say that," you can see their hands start shaking.
Oh no that does sound terrible! If you ever felt like moving to the states we would welcome you with open arms :). Places like The Donald give me hope that not everything is doomed.
In Canada you'd have to play ball unfortunately
Welcome. You are not alone.
There are many, many Trump supporters with virtually the same story.
Its funny, they are the intolerant ones so I always thought it would be them axing me lol!
lol
When it's always the same argument it get's to a point where it's just a person who'll yell at you unless you agree with them. Not really a friend by any definition.
Glad you got out of Chicago, it's awful I don't even like visiting there anymore.
Same here. They know not to start political talks with me because they'll be destroyed.
Alicia, I think most of us who dont live in deep red states or live in bigger cities are experiencing this. Its nuts, not only is there no discourse anymore, these people are acting like cultists and dont even realize it.
I totally agree and it seems there isn't even a point in trying to convince them about how delusional they are.
So I was literally in the same spot as you. Word for word. Your situation is literally a clone of what I went through. Reading this I felt like I was reading a chapter out of my own past.
I had to part ways with my friends. Knew them for half my life since middle school. But it became so bad one day that one of my friends snapped and started physically hitting me with a tablet and screaming at me. It was scary. I decided then and there it was time to part ways. You cant be a rag for these people. Unfortunately I have not made new friends. It's been hard because I live in a liberal state. Theres been some connections here and there with people, but I have learned to have fun and do things by myself.
When I left my friends, that was in 2012. Today theres a couple that have come around. One guy actually left the democrat party and became libertarian. But he keeps leaning more and more right. These people either come around or they dont. Leave them to their fate. The important thing is in time you will feel better for leaving them. Emotionally, spiritually, and physically.
OMG that's horrible! I can't imagine ever being so angry at another person especially a life long friend that I would start hitting them over it. I'm so sorry you had to go through that. I'm glad you're able to do things on your own, I'm trying to get there I just get so uncomfortable doing things alone which I know is silly. It's nice at least a couple of people you know are starting to see the light. It sucks when you feel like you're the only one not allowed to open your mouth and speak, so it's definitely nice to have like minded people to talk with.
So doing things alone at first is awkward. Not going to lie. But if you push yourself to do it. Go out to eat by yourself. Go to the movies by yourself. It will start to feel normal and not so bad. But most importantly doing things alone is a time of personal growth. I'm not exaggerating when i tell you, that you will re-evaluate almost every perception you have of life. Everything out there has only one purpose. To distract us from ourselves. From what is truly important. You can learn much from silence.
Thanks for all the great advice. Some self reflection sounds kind of nice right about now. Perhaps I'll try to grab a drink alone this weekend and see how it goes 😀.
It's easy to fall into the trap of resentment, and I certainly can't blame you for this. Move on, rid them out of your life, because their influence will continue to tear you down.
But also pray for them. We may not be able to do anything for them ourselves, but if we don't also pray for those who have done us harm, we're only contributing to the problem.
I have my wife and my dog. I have never been big into friends so I didn't really lose any by showing my power level. But I did lose almost every single family member. They think I'm a Nazi and a white nationalist. Even my own parents. The sad part is they are old and could kick it any time and I have not seen them in years. The funny part is I had an Aunt that I never really talked to who is a Trump supporter too and now we talk several times a week. Sad and funny, meh.
Oh no that's horrible, I'm so sorry! I couldn't imagine having to deal with my own family members thinking those things about me and letting politics get in the way. It really sucks this is how crazy the world has gotten. I'm glad you have an awesome wife and dog with you!
That is sad. I am lucky that at least my immediate family is all based. Our cousins are all fairy-spotting loons, but I don't talk to them.
"One by one"...they did it to themselves. Cut plenty of assholes from my life.
I cancelled NCAA season tickets; the guy (and his snob wife) I sat next to for 15+ years were Joe & Mika wind up dolls. They didn't have an original political thought between them. Told him I'm not in the mood to hear his hatred until January 2025.
I agree they are brainwashed and the funny thing is sometimes you catch them off guard and they accidentally say something that doesn't fit the usual script and you think there's hope but there never is. I think most of it is they are brainwashed to believe they are the good guys, so it isn't that they believe all of the shit they spew they just don't want to be labeled as one of the bad guys.
You have hundreds of thousands of frens here pede.
Thanks friend :)
Just step away because you are this close to them calling you a racist nazi in public or even call the authorities on you. Distance yourself.
I've had to tell some of my friends multiple times to stop screaming that I support Trump in bars we've been in that are just full of libs. I'm not ashamed by it but I don't want a bunch of hipster doofuses trying to attack me when I've more than a few whiskeys lol
They’re trying to shame you. It’s makes them feel superior. I have a friend that does it in the most inappropriate times, like having beers. Give them one warning and then just break ties.
You're so right about the shaming, I just don't even indulge them because it won't make a difference.
I live in a mega lefty area so naturally my friends are all libtards. I'm definitely beginning to distance myself. I've never felt comfortable cracking a maga joke around them and I have to listen to how they want to cut back on defense funding or increase public schools funding while sitting in silence. Yeah I'm pretty done with that. After the last month, if you're really going to vote for Joe, we probably shouldn't be friends.
Exactly, how I'm feeling. My friends aren't bad people and actually have never turned on me for being a Trump supporter and when politics aren't involved I do love them but they've certainly done nothing for the past 4 years but mock me and shame me for voting for a fill in the blank phobic/ist orange man. Now they are doing exactly the same thing except their guy actually is all of the things they claim Trump to be. It's not even their crazy liberal beliefs that have me fed up, it's the fact that each and everyone is a hypocrite.
Problem with that is... I don't really have any non lefty friends 😔
The older I get, the more I think having friends is overrated.
Haha that's kind how I've been feeling. During the lockdown I really didn't miss anyone that much, besides going a little stir crazy I felt pretty content!
You'll be happier without the constant onslaught of belittling negativity. It is not good for your spirit. A bit of loneliness is worth it. Seek out Conservatives in your town. New friends who respect your freedom.
I definitely agree and isn't like they are constantly talking about it but every time I'm with them especially lately I feel like I go into the situation already on the defensive waiting for the comments that will piss me off when I just want to hang out to have a good time.
Dude, you'll find it's the most freeing experience of your life. Nobody needs that albatross around their neck. You think of them as friends, but clearly, they are not. Get new friends. There are tons of great pedes in this world and they will be better friends then your fake-caring liberal friends ever were. And besides, even if you're friendless, you've got us. That's what we're here for. Now pick yourself up, dust yourself off and go find some MAGA friends irl. Good luck.
Yes! First step admit it online, next step try to find real life MAGA friends! It's hard when so many people are closeted about it, I always try to subtly bring up things I think a MAGA person would appreciate and see how they respond.
Good technique. And btw, sorry for calling you dude. Didn't notice your name. :D I like doing that by using something that virtually nobody could complain about - the 'right to try' act. If you can bring that up and say, well, at least there's one thing Trump did that I like. I like that terminally ill people now have the right to try promising medications that haven't gone through the entire approval process yet, if they want to.' And if they complain about that, suddenly remember you're late for an appointment, lol. If they agree enthusiastically, you might just have met a closet pede.
As for meeting new MAGA friends, one thing you could try is to find out if there is a young republicans club in your general area. You don't even have to be young! That's a good place to start. And if you meet a couple of people there, they may be able to introduce you to a couple more. I'm sure there are a lot of maga people desperate to meet others!
If need be, call the GOP for your state and ask them about local resources. They should be able to help you. Good luck and keep us posted. P.S. I'm also a female so if you ever feel too lonely and want to talk, just reach out to me. :o) I'd be glad to.
Haha no worries! I always call everyone dude it's just easier. Thanks for the ideas, I'll definitely look into it. Definitely glad there's other kickass women on here fighting the good fight 😀!!
You know it, sista!
you will be ASTOUNDED at how fast your self-confidence skyrockets and how successful you can be on your own.
I already feel better just getting it off my chest and having all this awesome support from all these wonderful Pedes. I usually just lurk around but I'm glad I finally decided to start chatting with some of you, I don't know what I was waiting for!
Everyone in my gchat is a liberal. It's tough. I just don't say anything anymore. They repeat all the expected leftist talking points that the media says they should be thinking regarding any particular issue of the week. Some things are better left unsaid so at the expense of not losing them forever I just idle without typing.
One of them even went as far as saying "trump idiots" in the scrollback and I caught him out on it. At least now I know how he feels about me, my parents, and anybody else who doesn't align politically with his views.
Lost my friend of 21 years over WuFlu, just before the BLM nonsense. I recall several times playing GTA when he dropped the n word as a joke. I recall his gf in the background finally telling him to stop being racist. I guarantee he’s masked up, BLM’d up ...these people have no principles.
Democrats are BULLIES
Yes they are bullies and hypocrites!
I'll be your friend. Was a libtard at one point myself and even campaigned for the commie. Saw some corruption first hand literally in front of my face. I literally watched the counter purposely miscount in front of a hundred people and was silenced when I voiced objection. They also literally locked us out of the bathrooms to try and get us to leave.
It was that combined with Trump reaching out to After Berners when he basically mentioned how we were left in the cold really resonated with me and started my long journey to where I am today. Now I have a whole family that's taken the red pill and I am proudly to blame for all of it. I have also lost a lot of friends and am now banned from twitter on two accounts. (sharing memes from the donald reddit days does that to you).
Either way if you are out towards Iowa or southern Illinois I'd have a drink with you. From my perspective reformed libtards are the most aggressive recruiters for the Trump Party.
Hi new friend! That's crazy about the corruption I'm glad you spoke up and saw light and convinced your family to do the same. I think it's a badge of honor at this point to be banned from Twitter. I would love to get a drink if we ever cross paths I'm more on the western Illinois border. Glad to know another reformed liberal and happy we both made it out with our brains still fully in tact lol!
Haha long time in between messages but im always down. Im around the Rock island Area myself. Plenty of Supporters in my neck of the woods coming out too.
go to a gun store. you'll find lots of friends there.
I bought my first gun last week and I told the guy I was also looking for conservative friends if he knew any and he smiled and goes we are all friends here lol.
That was around the exact time I noticed this shit starting to change too.
I was, and still am a liberal by definition... but these people aren't liberals. They're about as illiberal as you can be.
I understand though because my wife is going through exactly what you're going through right now from these last 2 weeks. She was like "holy shit honey you were right all along... this is going to be a war." which sort of feels good in a way because she's been calling me crazy and saying I've lost my mind with all the civil war stuff. Overall however, I'm actually really sad that I was correct.
But you're right, it it began to show when the left started de-platforming people on college campuses around 2013-14.
Around then, my long time asian friend (who grew up with white people in school and made far more money than me) started calling me a privilleged racist who couldn't ever understand anything and was a 'lost cause' because of the color of my skin.
I was like dude wtf... it's ME bro... the same person you've been friends with for nearly a decade... The only reason his "asianess" came up in conversation was because he did a funny bruce lee impression but it was fuckin funny... I never asked him to do it... he just DID IT himself. Other than that, we were both for the most part 'colorblind'.
Another one of my friends, who I heralded and looked up to as such a smart guy is completely gone. He's now one of the "Im moving out of the country if he wins reelection" TDS, types even though we both laughed our asses off at "grab em by the pussy" in 2015. He actually could laugh at things back then... not anymore.
It's like their gripped in a constant state of unease and hatred. Must suck... but yea he's gone now too. I didn't even have to break away... they just kinda left me and stopped contacting me.
Yes you're so right, I haven't changed my views on anything since I considered myself a liberal, except for abortion and I still wouldn't consider myself totally pro-life but they keep pushing further and further to left. There's so much craziness happening with the left they can't even seem to keep up with all of their own shit. I'm glad your wife finally came around, it is so validating when someone finally sees your side and agrees. That sucks about your friends, I hate that we are at a place where we can't be friends with people of different beliefs. I've been trying and it's so hard. Also, I'm a women and I still think grab 'em by the pussy is hilarious too.
Edit - Sorry this is sort of long...
Im also tangled in the same dilemma over abortion.
I was pro-choice when our expert biologists, embryologists and politicians agreed, for the most part, when the development passes a certain stage and that was the law.
Now, its up-to-birth in many democrat states and more keep pushing. There were even multiple proposals for POST-birth abortion... Which is just flat out murder of a living, out of the womb baby, and just thinking about it makes me want to post-birth abort the people who thought up, drafted and proposed such an idea.
Anyway, there are a lot of people like us who were left behind by the left. How could there not be? They just keep eating each other alive, cancelling themselves and destroy everything they touch.
The "right" is unified but I dont even consider us "the right". For instance im a millennial, athiest, classical liberal who still doesnt like most republicans like lindsay graham, romney, bush, mcconnel, and the other lifetime politicians.
I shouldnt fit in here right? Well i do because here we just love America, English common law, 1&2 amandments, our homes and families.
Good luck with your friends :) we can only hope they snap out of whatever spell theyre undersomeday.
Yes you just described me exactly! That's exactly what changed my mind it's like this is a fully grown baby what the hell are you doing? And then the way they celebrated it too was what I found truly disturbing. Before the 2016 election I admit I fed into the fear about Trump completely making it illegal but it wasn't a big enough concern for me to vote somewhere else. I still don't know if I really care if someone gets an abortion within a reasonable time frame but I know at this point I could never get one. I'm also an atheist and I find it crazy these days how often I'm defending organized religion. I also have tattoos and I love weed so I've always sort of felt like unsure if I belonged with the conservatives either but knowing how open minded everyone is here regardless of a few minor differences makes everything feel much better.
So many of us here fit the same description.
As of today, it no longer seems to be Republican vs Democrat but classical liberals vs collectivists.
When you have about 40 minutes to spare, watch this video. Evan Sayet is largly unknown, even here which pisses me off a little because he has found what has been dubbed the "grand unified field theory of liberalism".
Once you watch this video and understand how/why the modern liberal thinks the way they do, you'll understand everything they do and say.
You'll understand how and why they can tell everyone to stay home, except the rioters, looters, criminals and let a group of armed idiots take over a 6 block area in downtown Seattle and not only not find this problematic, but they openly celebrate it. You'll understand why they not only think killing actual new born babies is not only ok, but morally superior to not doing it.
Seriously, once you watch this... and I've watched it dozens and dozens of times over the last few years (it was given in 2007!!!!) because every single word is worth memorizing and internalizing, and the philosophy he describes shows itself more and more with every day that goes by.
heres the link again if you missed it in the text above the talk starts at 9:14 if you want to skip the intro/stuff
Oh thanks for the video I will definitely check it out!
I'm especially irritated by rich minorities who want me to acknowledge my oppression of them. I live in a one bedroom apartment. I just finally paid off my student loan. I drive a Honda Fit, for God's sake.
And when Lebron James, who made his millions selling NIKE shoes made by slave labor, wants to lecture me about slavery 150 years ago, when he's got Chinese slaves, and sweatshops in Bangladesh making his corporate-logo crap right now... let's just say I'm not impressed.
People who don't accept you with your core beliefs are friends in name only. Fuck em, don't need em.
That's a very good point!
I feel you pede. In the same boat here.
Can we all move to Kekistan and live happily ever after? Lol
Try to find a Trump rally or 2nd amendment rally and make some new friends that align with you. If you don't mind me asking, what state?
Yes I would love to go to a Trump rally! I live in the suburbs of St. Louis.
Step 1: Move (if you can) Step 2: Join a local gun club and introduce yourself to as many people as possible. Meet when they meet. You'll be bbq'ing with them before you know it.
From what you say, you've been friendless for a long time already. Now you're acknowledging it and making space for actual friends.
I think you might be right! :)
They are NPCs, they were never real to begin with. You've lost nothing, Welcome Friend.
Haha thanks friend!!
I have this issue but it's with my family. My parents are conservative but my brother and sister are so obtuse when it comes to politics. My parents don't push back at their statements as much as I do so it's a constant 2v1. My brothers wife corrupted my little bro in my honest opinion. She believes you only find real Americans and culture in the big cities. They don't listen to common sense or facts. I just bare withe them cause they are family and i just hang out my conservative friends. Plus i live out in the country so it's really nice being in a safe area. Hang in there Alicia it gets better.
That sucks about your siblings, are they younger? Hopefully they will come to their senses one day, you all share the same genes so somewhere inside of them should be a tiny pede! Living in the country sounds really nice at this point. I'm so sick of all the city snobs elitist thinking they know what's best for everyone else.
They are younger. My brother is 2 months younger than me and my sister 8 years younger. I'm adopted so I don't share the same genes lol. They are good people and I love them to death but just misguided.
Haha well hopefully they will realize at some point you're right and wise up a bit. I hope everything going on is opening up some peoples eyes but from what I've heard from people I know they are still just turning a blind eye.
You just described literally every single one of my friends. I actually dropped out of college so I'm pretty much the only one of my friends without a degree and a lot of them have masters and PhDs. I genuinely think the reason they shit on me being a trumper is because they think I'm too dumb to realize any better. I do think a lot of my friends are very intelligent but they don't understand that intelligence isn't just the ability to get a degree and just because they have degrees doesn't inherently make their opinions on topics more valid.
That's how I sleep at night. Liberals are always like how are you so sure you're right and I always tell them it's because I used to be one of them and I never questioned anything. I just blindly accepted whatever CNN and Obama told me. Now I question everything and I'm better off for it.
I voted for Obama twice because Mitt Romney is a bitch. I also don't see a situation in which I would ever vote for a democrat again they are unhinged.
You have to make space in your life for new things. You have outgrown these people. Nature abhors a vacuum. New, better people will fill it. Live on your feet.
Good advice 😀 thanks!!
They're just tribalists, there's no issue or combination of issues they care about. There's no conceivable step or action any Dem could possibly make that would ever make them think they aren't a great person doing the right thing. If anything ever looks like that they'll ignore it and mope until some Hollywood actor tells a nice poem about it.
Hardcore life-long liberals are religious adherents to "The Democrats".
If you live near western PA hit me up.
If I ever find myself out that way I definitely will! I've never actually been to the East Coast.
We are all your Internet friends.
Over the last fifteen years I dropped 95% of the people I knew. Because they were actually lunatics. I moved out of the city. I got a new job. I got a new place. My neighbors are good people. They are better friends than my friends ever were. You grow, you get older, you change, you find where you should be an who you should be with. Keep your chin up, because you have better days coming. Being alone isn't always fun, but it can be done.
That all actually sounds really nice :). Thanks for giving me something to look forward to!
I feel ya. I still work in the DC area so it's incredibly hard to make friends--it's like a badge of pride around there to hate on America, Trump, conservatives, etc. So if you're DC area, you've got a lady-pede friend in me! :D
It really bums me out that D.C. is being over run by these people. I've always wanted to visit and soak up all the America that's there lol! Loving all the awesome lady-pedes here!!
Wish them luck. Move on to better things. Leave any bitterness behind.
I feel your pain! You need to find like minded people. Until then decompress from those emotional vampires you just let go! God Bless! 🇺🇸
We're your friends :), and I'm sure you can find some like minded people if you hang out in the right spots.
Tight Circle of 6 of us, friends since Junior High, over 30 years. Since Trump’s election, basically have cut lose of 4 of them, might have to cut lose of the last one. Over time have seen more and more how each one of them lack very fundamental critical thinking skills. Toxic and very hypocritical/inconsistent views of the world. Enjoy your Decoupling. Enjoy your Freedom.
Thanks friend! It sucks you've been friends with these people almost your entire life and they turned on you. You think after that long they would know who you truly are as a person. TDS is a powerful disease lol.
You have all of us frens, fren
You'll sleep better at night.
Better to be alone than in bad company. I just did the same thing. It’s lonely but peaceful.
You never had liberal friends.
Those weren't friends.
They were enemies.
Go find some real friends who actually care about you and that you will care about.
Haha good point!
I pray you find a friend who will stand up for you even when you're in disagreement with them.
Locke's social contract was about individuals respecting each other's individual rights.
The sentiment is perfectly expressed in the quote that says even though I disagree with you, I will defend to the death your right to say it.
I had this same issue for a while. I eventually either stopped talking politics or moved on. If you can't have a civil conversation and agree to disagree then it's not worth your time. Most of my old friends have bad cases of TDS and are a lost cause. People like that have to wake up on their own. Your best bet is taking them to a rally and letting them see it for themselves. I'm old and don't use FB or most other social media it's hard to make new friends. Good luck.