I suggest every law abiding citizen to exercise their 2nd amendment right. Remember the LA riots after the Rodney king trial. This will be on a whole different scale with the liberals and msm supporting and fueling a race war.
This should be stickied. Reading this reminded me very much of the Rodney King case. The story at the time was they thought he was high on PCP, which supposedly gave him (King) superhuman strength. I wonder how long excited delirium has been recognized as a legit syndrome?
I wonder how long excited delirium has been recognized as a legit syndrome?
As a medical diagnosis? I've yet to see a single case using that terminology, and we've had lots of people die from drug use. What they are calling excited delirium sounds like a combination of cardiac arrhythmias and runaway neurotransmitters such as seen with malignant hyperthermia (MH) or neuroleptic malignant syndrome. (NMS). The underlying reasons for death they are citing in "excited delirium" is a legitimate possibility.
The altered mental status of delirium is quite real and can be caused by a wide range of things from hypoxia, urinary tract infections, extremely low sodium, ammonia in the blood (long term alcohol abuse can lead to this) alcohol withdrawal etc.
Delirium Tremens is very real, and most commonly associated with alcohol or barbiturate withdrawals (possible also with benzodiazepine withdrawal, but that's fairly uncommon to see) . In those cases, heart rate and blood pressure can increase, temperature can go up dangerously high, and heart rhythms can be affected as well.
On the other hand, someone can die from the effects of meth, coke, opiates. Start mixing them up, throw some alcohol in and you are asking for all kinds of long term risks and possible immediate death. Floyd was busted twice for using cocaine over several years. Long term cocaine use will damage your heart valves, leading to poor ejection fraction (amount of blood pumped out during each contraction), dangerous arrhythmias and accumulation of blood clots in the heart. These increase the risk of a heart attack or heart failure dramatically.
Meth use (which Floyd tested positive for at the time of death) carries risks of having a heart attack all on its own. If Floyd was struggling a lot, his adrenaline would have kicked in, pushing his heart even harder. When that adrenaline wore off, a poorly functioning heart and the effects of the fentanyl on his breathing could have done him in.
You can take a look at these two and see where what they are calling excited delirium and MH/NMS are similar and share many of the same biological mechanisms.
Yeah, it just reminded me of the description of Rodney King at the time. Who knows? But yeah, it's got to be brought up at the trial, it's on tape of the officer questioning if Floyd might have it.
It also reminded me of a case that happened in Maryland a few years ago where a 26 year old man with Down syndrome died after being restrained by security when he tried to re-enter a movie theater without a ticket. Ethan Saylor case. Supposedly the autopsy showed broken neck bones and was ruled a homicide but the guys were never prosecuted. In reading about it now, I learned a fact that the news never reported (I lived in Maryland at that time). Ethan Saylor weighed 300 pounds! Gives me a new appreciation for what law enforcement has to deal with.
Thanks for posting this. The fact that only very little of the "resisting" footage has been released yet definitely has fed the Left's narrative. It's pretty common: the pictures show the person finally restrained and on the ground: idiot conclusion = why are they restraining him, he is not resisting. Yeah. Because he's being restrained.
Then how are their actions "wrong"? Mind numbing.
YOU CAN'T BE "CHOKED" BY A KNEE ON THE BACK OF YOUR NECK.
Read the article.
Well then, I'm not sure how you think their 'goal' was to render him unconscious with a restraint maneuver that CANNOT render him unconscious.
He will be found not guilty. This will happen in October, probably late October.
Planned and timed to agitate voters and media.
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Yup, made the same observation as soon as I saw the 2nd degree murder charge.
All he was doing was following his training
I suggest every law abiding citizen to exercise their 2nd amendment right. Remember the LA riots after the Rodney king trial. This will be on a whole different scale with the liberals and msm supporting and fueling a race war.
This should be stickied. Reading this reminded me very much of the Rodney King case. The story at the time was they thought he was high on PCP, which supposedly gave him (King) superhuman strength. I wonder how long excited delirium has been recognized as a legit syndrome?
As a medical diagnosis? I've yet to see a single case using that terminology, and we've had lots of people die from drug use. What they are calling excited delirium sounds like a combination of cardiac arrhythmias and runaway neurotransmitters such as seen with malignant hyperthermia (MH) or neuroleptic malignant syndrome. (NMS). The underlying reasons for death they are citing in "excited delirium" is a legitimate possibility.
The altered mental status of delirium is quite real and can be caused by a wide range of things from hypoxia, urinary tract infections, extremely low sodium, ammonia in the blood (long term alcohol abuse can lead to this) alcohol withdrawal etc.
Delirium Tremens is very real, and most commonly associated with alcohol or barbiturate withdrawals (possible also with benzodiazepine withdrawal, but that's fairly uncommon to see) . In those cases, heart rate and blood pressure can increase, temperature can go up dangerously high, and heart rhythms can be affected as well.
On the other hand, someone can die from the effects of meth, coke, opiates. Start mixing them up, throw some alcohol in and you are asking for all kinds of long term risks and possible immediate death. Floyd was busted twice for using cocaine over several years. Long term cocaine use will damage your heart valves, leading to poor ejection fraction (amount of blood pumped out during each contraction), dangerous arrhythmias and accumulation of blood clots in the heart. These increase the risk of a heart attack or heart failure dramatically.
Meth use (which Floyd tested positive for at the time of death) carries risks of having a heart attack all on its own. If Floyd was struggling a lot, his adrenaline would have kicked in, pushing his heart even harder. When that adrenaline wore off, a poorly functioning heart and the effects of the fentanyl on his breathing could have done him in.
You can take a look at these two and see where what they are calling excited delirium and MH/NMS are similar and share many of the same biological mechanisms.
https://www.mhaus.org/blog/malignant-hyperthermia-it-s-not-just-about-anesthesia/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3088378/
Yeah, it just reminded me of the description of Rodney King at the time. Who knows? But yeah, it's got to be brought up at the trial, it's on tape of the officer questioning if Floyd might have it.
It also reminded me of a case that happened in Maryland a few years ago where a 26 year old man with Down syndrome died after being restrained by security when he tried to re-enter a movie theater without a ticket. Ethan Saylor case. Supposedly the autopsy showed broken neck bones and was ruled a homicide but the guys were never prosecuted. In reading about it now, I learned a fact that the news never reported (I lived in Maryland at that time). Ethan Saylor weighed 300 pounds! Gives me a new appreciation for what law enforcement has to deal with.
Thanks for posting this. The fact that only very little of the "resisting" footage has been released yet definitely has fed the Left's narrative. It's pretty common: the pictures show the person finally restrained and on the ground: idiot conclusion = why are they restraining him, he is not resisting. Yeah. Because he's being restrained.
It did indeed start before they got there. But the delirium is a result of the drug intoxication, which might resemble alcohol intoxication.