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raananh -4 points ago +1 / -5

Why should they support terrorist Palestinians who shout "death to America"?

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horatius_defending [S] 4 points ago +5 / -1

Well, they have more of a legitimate claim to benig oppressed than BLM.

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raananh -5 points ago +1 / -6

No they are not. "Palestinians" never were oppressed by Jews/Israel. This is fake news.

In 1967, Israel LIBERATED the local Arabs from a 1948 occupation and annexation by Jordan and Egypt of land given to them in 1948 by the UN, for which Israel agreed to. If the 1967 event never happened, you would not hear today about "Palestinians" and a "Pales time" for them.

Tell one thing I said above which is factually not true. Go ahead!!!

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horatius_defending [S] 3 points ago +4 / -1

I don't care very much.This is a Middle East problem between violent and fundamentalist cultures. It's not an American problem.

But still. You are shamelessly lying. And that bothers me.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/made-by-history/wp/2018/03/06/the-dark-roots-of-aipac-americas-pro-israel-lobby/

The whole reason that AIPAC came into existence is because Israelis were shamelessly lying about the Qibya massacre of Palestinian civilians and got caught lying. So they formed AIPAC to convince the American public that we need to give our money and diplomatic support to Israel.

But I know that in Israeli logic, you can say "liberated" when you mean "murdered".

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raananh -3 points ago +1 / -4

You have no clue what you are talking about.

Did you read what I said?

I said that in 1948, a UN popular vote decided to split the land between a Jewish state and an Arab state. The Jews agreed to this.

The Arabs in Jordan and Egypt occupied the land given by the UN to the local Arabs and even tried to destroy Israel and "kill all the Jews".

So who is the violent, terrorist and uncompromising here? Israel or Arabs?

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horatius_defending [S] 3 points ago +4 / -1

Oh, I don't doubt there's mutual animosity, hatred even. How could it be otherwise?

Is anything I said factually inaccurate?

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raananh -2 points ago +1 / -3

There's no "mutual animosity" among Jews towards Arabs!

20% of Israel's citizens, 1 of every 5, is an Arab.

Israeli Arabs are the luckiest Arabs in the world: the only ones to enjoy democracy, freedom, equal rights, freedom of religion, human rights, liberty etc.

Have you heard about issues between Jews and Arabs inside Israel? Give me one example.

Hence, many Israeli Arabs serve in the Israeli Army to protect their beloved country of Israel against other Arabs around Israel, including "Palestinians", who don't know better.

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horatius_defending [S] 4 points ago +4 / -0

That's really nice to hear, actually. Thanks for the comment.