But let's just say this is somewhat accurate. Going full speed ahead on something that 45% of your own party opposes generally isn't a good political strategy.
Well going full speed with something 80-90% of your party disagrees with and 99% of your opponents party disagrees with is even dumber....
Seems like if this poll is fake, I think it is, it's from really shitty biased wording and being pushed by far lefties that want Biden to fail so they can say see?!?! And get the Dems further left
Imagine the level of hubris of thinking that they can surmise the human experience of millions of white people and conclude that they ALL have inherit privilege based on their skin tone alone.
55% support it and the other 45% are probably horrified by the idea and are probably already planning on selling their houses in the big cities and moving to the country
To be fair, legal immigrants do this too. Texas is turning blue isn’t because of commiefornia alone, but from legal and illegal immigration too. Look up the demographics in Texas and compare it to California. Remember, California was deep red in 70s.
There are commiecrats from places other than California.
The number of Californians who voted for Trump in 2016 is greater than the individual populations of 25 states and DC.
LA and SF are shitholes, but not all of California is. And let’s not forget that other places, like Minneapolis and Seattle are currently going to great lengths to show that LA and SF aren’t the only shitholes destroying the country form the inside out.
No Dem will ever get into office with that platform. It tells you how screwed up the Dem party is with all these progressives pulling the radical base to the left when Biden disavowed the notion of defunding the police. Their inner battles are hilarious to witness
If they did manage to "win" this game it would only be for a short time. We saw it to some extent before when criminal justice became relaxed and liberalized for similar reasons in the 1970s. Led to higher crime. Which led to Democrats like Bill Clinton and Joe Biden championing get tough crime bills. Which filled up prisons. Which lowered crime. (imagine that). Which brought us to a place where people take low crime for granted and blame the police for violence through a racial prism. Kinda right back where we started.
I love how they act like everyone knew about this stupid Juneteenth thing. I Guarantee you Maher never heard about it until someone told him about it before shooting the segment.
I know a couple of libs, and when asked what they think of the "defund" proposal, they usually get a little amused smile and say something like, "Well, poor simple Trump supporter, 'defund' doesn't really mean defund." They then go on to describe what should be called "police reform". When this is pointed out, they usually agree that "defund" isn't the word they would have chosen.
He is not fucking pissed at the idea, he is just saying it should be worded better.
Stop having wet dreams about islamoleftists like Bill Maher and Tim Pool to see the light of the day. You can wake someone who is asleep, you cannot wake someone who is pretending to be asleep.
Hes not agreeing with conservatives, he's just pissed off that theyre using the ering worfing and its hrlping conservatives. I love their infighhting while were pretty much harmonious as a party now, except for Mittens and MurCOWsky.
Hes not mad at the idea hes mad at how they are branding it. Hes right though, fucking idiots are doing the work for us by calling it “defund the police.”
Many Democrats have been so conditioned at this point that they will immediately and unequivocally support anything that the misleadia tells them to support. We see this play out repeatedly. They are completely in thrall of the misleadia.
This data no longer represents the moderate dems. If conservatives feel like the silent majority think about the 2A supporting dems that have to be quiet through all of this.
Yup, exactly. The only ones echoing anything you here on CNN or MSNBC are the lunatics that are caught in their own twisted reality. Truth of the matter is an entire nation is watching one man have everything thing thrown at him while our individual liberties are being threatened daily.
Agreed.
But let's just say this is somewhat accurate. Going full speed ahead on something that 45% of your own party opposes generally isn't a good political strategy.
Well going full speed with something 80-90% of your party disagrees with and 99% of your opponents party disagrees with is even dumber....
Seems like if this poll is fake, I think it is, it's from really shitty biased wording and being pushed by far lefties that want Biden to fail so they can say see?!?! And get the Dems further left
Same, polling is a political tool. If you are going to look a polling you need to do your own research to understand who is believable and accurate.
Never trust the polls. It’s basically the same as reading only the headline of a biased article.
Believe what you believe and vote accordingly not based on what a poll says.
I’m certain that’s been labeled racist
It's like the old paraphrase of G. K. Chesterton: "Don’t ever take a fence down until you know the reason why it was put up."
Imagine the level of hubris of thinking that they can surmise the human experience of millions of white people and conclude that they ALL have inherit privilege based on their skin tone alone.
Look what they did to marriage. Why not police?
55% support it and the other 45% are probably horrified by the idea and are probably already planning on selling their houses in the big cities and moving to the country
To be fair, legal immigrants do this too. Texas is turning blue isn’t because of commiefornia alone, but from legal and illegal immigration too. Look up the demographics in Texas and compare it to California. Remember, California was deep red in 70s.
LA and SF are shitholes, but not all of California is. And let’s not forget that other places, like Minneapolis and Seattle are currently going to great lengths to show that LA and SF aren’t the only shitholes destroying the country form the inside out.
Sauce https://www.politicopathy.com/2020/06/12/poll-55-of-democrats-support-defund-the-police-64-of-americans-oppose/
Ps. Gotta love the perfect wording 55% of dems vs 64% of Americans.
They’ll believe whatever the media tells them to believe
I doubt it's that high. But I hope it is
No Dem will ever get into office with that platform. It tells you how screwed up the Dem party is with all these progressives pulling the radical base to the left when Biden disavowed the notion of defunding the police. Their inner battles are hilarious to witness
If they did manage to "win" this game it would only be for a short time. We saw it to some extent before when criminal justice became relaxed and liberalized for similar reasons in the 1970s. Led to higher crime. Which led to Democrats like Bill Clinton and Joe Biden championing get tough crime bills. Which filled up prisons. Which lowered crime. (imagine that). Which brought us to a place where people take low crime for granted and blame the police for violence through a racial prism. Kinda right back where we started.
I think this may actually show how few people are even willing to admit to being a Dem any longer. 55% what the fuck??? I guess war it is.
I love how they act like everyone knew about this stupid Juneteenth thing. I Guarantee you Maher never heard about it until someone told him about it before shooting the segment.
Yup, the side polls inadvertently give you the real numbers when you take time to read them
And on top of that most those people are clustered in shithole cities.
I know a couple of libs, and when asked what they think of the "defund" proposal, they usually get a little amused smile and say something like, "Well, poor simple Trump supporter, 'defund' doesn't really mean defund." They then go on to describe what should be called "police reform". When this is pointed out, they usually agree that "defund" isn't the word they would have chosen.
Yet it’s the word they use
Tell them that words have meanings.
Better yet, stop even talking to them.
Bill Maher used to be funny.... now he is just sad
The number of extreme leftists isnt going up nearly as fast as that other 45% is leaving them.
He is not fucking pissed at the idea, he is just saying it should be worded better.
Stop having wet dreams about islamoleftists like Bill Maher and Tim Pool to see the light of the day. You can wake someone who is asleep, you cannot wake someone who is pretending to be asleep.
This is like bowling for beginners. Roll down the middle slowly. Democrats : hook left into the gutter.
If you don’t want to get rid of the police, you ain’t a Democrat!
Most reasonable guy on dem side: Glenn Greenwald
Least unreasonable guy on dem side (remember bar is very low, so don't go liking him) - bill mehar
Even moderate Muslims support banning alcohol and stoning gays.
Right, because ‘defund' does not really mean ‘defund’ so why call it ‘defund’? Because it’s lying and pandering - what they’re bast at.
I think this poll would also put Biden ahead by 15 points.
ItS nOt AbOuT dEsTrOyInG tHe PoLiCe ItS aBoUt ReDuCiNg ThEiR fUnDiNg So ThEy WiLl Be LeSs MiLiTaRiZeD.
uh, like the polls that say Trump is losing to biden? please
Hes not agreeing with conservatives, he's just pissed off that theyre using the ering worfing and its hrlping conservatives. I love their infighhting while were pretty much harmonious as a party now, except for Mittens and MurCOWsky.
Hes not mad at the idea hes mad at how they are branding it. Hes right though, fucking idiots are doing the work for us by calling it “defund the police.”
BOY LOVE MEDIA
Many Democrats have been so conditioned at this point that they will immediately and unequivocally support anything that the misleadia tells them to support. We see this play out repeatedly. They are completely in thrall of the misleadia.
1/3 of black americans want to get rid of cops all together? Thats a bit of a blackpill, fren
Federalising the police and breaking local PDs has been a long plan by Soros, it started with Obamas "Policing in the 21st Century" EO
https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/crime/item/23979-soros-exposed-plotting-to-nationalize-american-police
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President's_Task_Force_on_21st_Century_Policing
I'll be posting this.
This data no longer represents the moderate dems. If conservatives feel like the silent majority think about the 2A supporting dems that have to be quiet through all of this.
Dems just lost all moderates, the 2a people, libertarians etc.
Yup, exactly. The only ones echoing anything you here on CNN or MSNBC are the lunatics that are caught in their own twisted reality. Truth of the matter is an entire nation is watching one man have everything thing thrown at him while our individual liberties are being threatened daily.
I think they should test run this in New York and LA.
55% of Democrats.