Both these businesses are losing on both ends for not having conviction. Starbucks stood up for gun owners and simple said "we will follow the local laws" which did include open carry. Pissing off large liberal clientele. Then they caved and ban open carry all stores pissing off the other half. Papa john made some statements on a conference call costing him the nfl collaboration, pissing off half his customers, now this pissing off the other half