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Shalomtoyou 10 points ago +12 / -2

Yeah, there's a bunch of rich Jews who I don't know, I'm unrelated to, and rub elbows with rich gentiles to fuck over the normal people.

So you guys come out here, blame all Jews, and now I gotta worry about being stabbed in the back by people I thought were my political allies.

Damn.

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DrCowboyPresident 3 points ago +3 / -0

Who blames all? That's stupid. This is not a black or white thing. It is a segment, which happens to be highly influential and powerful, and insular.

You force people into binary reasoning, for no logical reason. You want us to think their culture has nothing to do with their actions, but that's obviously not true. I read what they write, you see. Tikkun Olam.

Here you go, just one example: https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/tikkun-olam-repairing-the-world/

“Tikkun olam ” (Hebrew for “world repair”) has come to connote social action and the pursuit of social justice. The phrase has origins in classical rabbinic literature and in Lurianic kabbalah, a major strand of Jewish mysticism originating with the work of the 16th-century kabbalist Isaac Luria.

The goal of such repair, which can only be effected by humans, is to separate what is holy from the created world, thus depriving the physical world of its very existence—and causing all things return to a world before disaster within the Godhead and before human sin, thus ending history.

This is batshit stuff, man.

Guess I shouldn't believe my lying eyes. It's clear these beliefs have had major influence all the way back to people like Marx. In the very early 1900s there was a lot of pride over communism being heavily influenced by these beliefs.

I'm white, I'll freely condemn the large segment of white people who are intent on self-destruction and mayhem. It doesn't bother me to say so. Many of them are Unitarian type Christians. I'm Christian, but I have no problem saying that.

So you see, why can't you do the same?

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Shalomtoyou 5 points ago +5 / -0

Look, there's the bedrock values of a religion, and there's the mystical stuff. I'll give you an example.

Atheist asked me to defend the prohibition against wearing two types of linen. I used the same question with some Rabbis and I had my own answer. Here are the three.

My answer: G-d makes distinctions. In Genesis he separates the light from the dark, the land from the sea, the good from the evil, the man from the woman. "Knowing" in the biblical sense means sex, or an intermingling and mixing of the two. The tree of the knowing -- knowledge -- of good and evil mixed good and evil together so the two look alike. Evil can appear good, good can appear evil. We need to make that distinction again by making separations -- knowing the dividing line between good and evil, male and female, light and dark -- or two sets of linen.

A Chabad Rabbi told me my answer was pretty good and had some Rabbinical support. But his answer was mystical. "Our job is to raise negative energy and make it positive energy and following the mitzvahs, no matter what they are, helps in this project." A very mystical and kind of confusing answer, but whatever.

I then posed the question to a conservative Rabbi. He said :"You ever try washing an outfit made of linen and cotton? The cotton shrinks and the linen won't. Then you won't be able to wear it anymore and you lost money."

Don't worry about the mystics -They really don't control that much. And Soros is a total atheist who worships himself.

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tgwbd 1 point ago +1 / -0

I'm not Jewish, but your answer and your conservative Rabbi's answer remind me of the good real-world biblical advice handed down to me growing up as a Christian.

I've never been able to stand the mystics in the church. It always seems to boil down to social control through religion and that's the point where I check out.