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Clarence Thomas: SCOTUS Protects Abortion, 'Looks Other Way' on 2A (www.breitbart.com) 🔥 FIRE & FURY 💥
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PepesCovfefe 208 points ago +208 / -0

A justice left of him shouldn’t even be allowed on the SCOTUS.

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agile_a 63 points ago +64 / -1

we need to get rid of the Liberals on the court. but also and just as importantly some red States should actually try it. has an abortion ban that requires a woman to show a justifiable need for an abortion

know what? while we're at it we should have Texas and some other red States passed laws against CNN showing that they have a justifiable need to report the news before they are allowed to even broadcast in the state..

let's see how quickly the supreme Court defends them. and maybe of Court justices prove that they are biased and able to do their jobs properly we can remove themm

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PepesCovfefe 12 points ago +13 / -1

These are all great ideas.

Also some sort of major lawsuit against 2nd Amendment infringement.

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jimmajamma 11 points ago +11 / -0

Hijacking to link to this great (surprisingly for PBS) Clarence Thomas autobiography:

https://www.pbs.org/video/created-equal-clarence-thomas-in-his-own-words-rymp6z/

I had no idea he was originally enticed by the left. His story is touching, amazing, tragic and also uplifting. Also interesting to see the left's playbook has not changed one bit. I agree with you all, we need more like him.

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PepesCovfefe 9 points ago +9 / -0

Thanking you for your great link by providing this one on how Thomas Sowell converted from Marxism to Capitalism by his own free thinking:

https://youtu.be/mS5WYp5xmvI

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jimmajamma 6 points ago +6 / -0

And thank you! I had recently heard that but hadn't done my research. This is great! I'll watch it in the morning.

Now I'm wondering if Shelby Steele might have had a similar path to conservatism...

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christianknight 5 points ago +5 / -0

The stuff that the court threw out were lawsuits against 2A infringement.

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PepesCovfefe 3 points ago +3 / -0

Someone here said it’s because they’re waiting to get another non leftist judge since Roberts is compromised.

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Yawnz13 3 points ago +4 / -1

I'm fairly certain that the law that was challenged in Roe v. Wade was one where abortions were only allowed under certain circumstances, aka "justifiable need". I think Alabama's law that penalizes doctors for performing abortions is a better way as it, at least as far as I can remember, hasn't been ruled on in court.

Another alternative would be establishing some kind of case topic quota where SCOTUS must hear at least the opening arguments for a minimum number of cases related to certain topics per year.

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americathegr888 16 points ago +19 / -3

It's time to deport them all, whether they like it or not. And I don't care if they're technically citizens, either. Fuck them all.

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dizzle_izzle 7 points ago +7 / -0

While I love this thought this is something that can be am extremely sharp double edged sword.

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americathegr888 15 points ago +17 / -2

We're well past the point where we should be standing on principles. Our enemies have none, and refusing to bend ours simply means we lose.

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WestPalm 5 points ago +5 / -0

This.

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dizzle_izzle 4 points ago +4 / -0

You're right man.

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americathegr888 5 points ago +6 / -1

It's a hard thing to admit, I like being principled. But I like not living in a North Korean style hellscpe more.

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MakeAmericaLegendary 1 point ago +2 / -1

It's not principles. It's the fact that if a leftist ever gets into office again, they'll use any ammo we give them against us.

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americathegr888 6 points ago +8 / -2

At the rate we're going, they will win all elections from 2024 onward simply due to importing 1 million legal immigrants per year, 90% of whom vote left for life. Since 2016, the 75 million legal immigrants already here that vote 90% left became 79 million legal immigrants that vote 90% left. By 2024 that number will be 83 million legal immigrants, 90% of whom vote left.

Along with 90% left voting minorities (which is all of them except Hispanics, who vote "only" 78% left), that's enough to make up a permanent left voting majority of voters.

We need to get the leftists out of this country before 2024. For good. Or we become Venezuela/North Korea overnight, starting in 2024, simply due to demographic replacement from legal immigration.

We either fight dirty in 2020-2024 or we are essentially defacto surrendering.

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AmericanPigDog 5 points ago +5 / -0

We're dealing with communists burning cities, communist DAs, governors and mayors letting them, and communist media spewing outright lies to further erode public faith in police and contribute to their complete destruction of our nation. Now is not the time to stand on principle. Principles are extended to those who have them. Our enemies have none.

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bubadmt 5 points ago +6 / -1

A person to the left of him shouldn't be allowed. Period. Got it Jack? I DON'T WORK FOR YOU!

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dizzle_izzle 5 points ago +6 / -1

Listen here fat

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Salt-N-Pepe -3 points ago +3 / -6

A person left of him shouldn’t have the right to live

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1A2A 20 points ago +20 / -0

The left tries to stack the court with activists, THEY want to change the Constitution, not us. Fucking cunts love trying to say we want to "stack" the court. Infuriating.

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PepesCovfefe 15 points ago +15 / -0

They actively say that the constitution is outdated, and/or it is a “living, interpretable (to however they like)” document.

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ScreamingEagle1776 8 points ago +10 / -2

You are just as ignorant with your assertion that you know how the founding fathers would have felt. They did not have the benefit of the knowledge technology has given us, to say you know how they would have felt is asinine.

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Sinnister_Agenda 6 points ago +6 / -0

The definition of life didnt change. We just discovered when it really starts.

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ScreamingEagle1776 3 points ago +3 / -0

No it isn’t. I am just talking about what he said. No one is going to sit here and pretend they can read the minds of anyone, let alone our forefathers that are long since dead. It’s ridiculous. I’m not advocating for or against abortion, I’m just saying what he said was dumb.

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Aoikaze2000 0 points ago +1 / -1

Not necessarily because modern technology have muddied the citizenship clause:

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.

In addition, we now have a better understanding of life, and with technology advancing as it has, we may get to the point where a woman isn't even necessary to carry a baby... which makes the entire birth side of things rather confusing as (for example) a baby grown completely in an artificial womb should still carry the same rights as one that was carried by a woman.

Additionally, if the founding fathers knew what we knew now about human development, I'm betting they would probably side with the conservatives and consider abortion to be murder.

That said, as high as the infant mortality rate was back in the late 1700's, I'm betting many of them would look at someone wanting an abortion as if it was a really bad joke.

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krzyzowiec 1 point ago +1 / -0

People were more Christian then, and there was more respect for life than today. Abortion would have been unheard of.

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SwampSwan 2 points ago +2 / -0

Abortion has always been a thing - they just go about it openly, more frequently, and with much less risk to the woman's life today. They used to use certain plants, potions, throwing themselves down stairs, back-alley or 'clothes hanger' abortions, among other things.

Most women aren't willing to literally risk their own lives to get an abortion, which is why it was rarer back in the olden days. Now they do it & celebrate it as a badge of...something, but definitely not of 'honor.'

Nothing is more foreign to me than the thought of killing a child who is in (or out of) my womb. Most mothers would face a hungry tiger to protect her children from death.

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YouKnowWhatItIs87 58 points ago +58 / -0

Damn straight. He’s the perfect example of how “black lives matter” to the left when a black man leaves the plantation.

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ChokingOnARedpill 29 points ago +29 / -0

NPC: Cannot compute...blacks cannot support Republicans without voting against self interest..

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YouKnowWhatItIs87 23 points ago +23 / -0

Yep, blacks succeeding, getting a better job, starting a business, raising a fully nuclear family, not using welfare, is against their self interest in the left’s POV. But thank God tons of white people kneel, shows they care, really does a lot. Soft bigotry of low expectations on full display, that’s the real racism that’s prevalent in 2020.

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stratocaster_patriot 32 points ago +32 / -0

I smart non-racist competent black conservative man that the Dems tried to thwart with sex assault allegations. Yeah I'll take nine of those please.

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agile_a 19 points ago +19 / -0

that's the Democrat white supremacists go to attack on black men. They always accuse them of raping a white woman so that they can lynchh them

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DeplorableCentipede 31 points ago +31 / -0

Yeah, we definitely do. He's the only justice who consistently protects the constitution. Fucking Gorsuch just authored a ruling making gender and sexual orientation protected classes.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/15/supreme-court-rules-workers-cant-be-fired-for-being-gay-or-transgender.html?__source=iosappshare%7Ccom.apple.UIKit.activity.CopyToPasteboard

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TexSolo 26 points ago +26 / -0

It's really amazing courts have completely thrown out the belief that a business owner has any rights when it comes to hiring and firing. More proof we are much more socialist than free. It's only going to get worse I fear.

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WestPalm 25 points ago +25 / -0

Actually yes. Because by your admission such a business would never survive. If management did that to any of my coworkers I would quit in solidarity and encourage people not to patronize that business.

Freedom, how does it work?

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WestPalm 13 points ago +14 / -1

That is not how this decision will be used and you know it. If you can't win on merit just force it via government. Great plan, dude. Businesses should be able to fire people for any reason. Period.

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SwampSwan 3 points ago +3 / -0

In my state, they can. Don't even have to give a reason for your firing. I'm ok with that - and I've never been fired from any job.

Freedom is a wonderful thing!

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ColoradoTrumper45 4 points ago +4 / -0

In point of fact, businesses operating in the jim crow era would likely also have chosen to not discriminate against a growing customer segment.

Laws are enacted to constrain the freely chosen behaviors of men. If Business owners were so racist that they didn't want black folk eating at their lunch counter or riding at the front of the bus then those restrictions would have been policies and not mandated by law.

The fact that those laws had to be enacted in the first place is arguably evidence that businesses generally do not want to discriminate, even at the high water mark of widespread racism.

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CommieCucker 3 points ago +3 / -0

Jim Crow laws were Jim Crow LAWS. People don't write laws, legislators do.

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TexSolo 4 points ago +4 / -0

I think a business owner has inherent rights the same as any employee and if he or she only wants to hire people that they want working for them, honestly, they should be able to. Would I only hire white people or only straight? Nope and have hired many minoriites and gay folks over the years.

Most companies if not all nowadays are at will employment, and employers can fire someone whenever they want for any reason they want. Would I respect a company that was that overtly racist, of course not. And with social media today, a company that was discovered doing that would last about 2 seconds.

So, no I'm not "cool" with owners firing someone because of their skin color, I just think the true freedoms of association that we like to espouse doesn't trickle down to business owners in this day and age.

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kgpz -1 points ago +2 / -3

Sad times that people don't get that this mindset would apply to them too. It's the same reason right wingers get deplatformed. But they don't realize how stupid they sound when you say "MUH GAY CAKE!" Like, you can deny business to everyone or no one, there's no case for any in-between. So, everyone in America should be able to be served or else we go full tribalism.

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krzyzowiec 4 points ago +5 / -1

Freedom is not supposed to be a one way thing. It shouldn’t be freedom for the customers but not for the owners.

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nutup_orshutup 5 points ago +5 / -0

EEO has been in place for a long time.

The Pandora's box that Gorcuck really opened was a legal precedence for gay and Trans to be recognized as genders.

Watch how long until that wave of cases hits the SC.

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BarbaraManatee 2 points ago +2 / -0

Thank you for bringing this to my attention!

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DrLexLuthor 2 points ago +3 / -1

Just to be clear, you cannot fire someone for being transgender but you can fire them for disagreeing with this law.

Free speech only applies to the people the left agrees with.

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BasedJaffa 156 points ago +156 / -0

Soap Box

Ballot Box

Jury Box <<<------ We are Here

Ammo Box

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SquiggyMcPepe 81 points ago +82 / -1

I think even Trump knows if he can't ultimately get them into a court to face their crimes we are going to go to a hot conflict. Not against fellow americans but against the corrupt seditious traitorous leadership who is playing us all against each other.

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Pray_The_Rosary 22 points ago +24 / -2

Doubtful. If we were going into a hot conflict, we would've done so the moment no go zones were established and BLM threatened America with jihad attacks.

Trump is just going to focus on the economy, national security, and foreign trade.

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Libertysheimdall1 27 points ago +27 / -0

I suggest studying the 1850s. You do not get a hot conflict because one side challenges the status quo. You get a hot conflict when both sides believe that they are no longer served by the structure and process of government.

The left is already there. They hate everything about the system, because that is their fuel. America sucks. It is evil.

Their ownership of academia and government has now hatched into owning culture at all levels -- media, tech, Hollywood, and every aspect of the public conversation. That, in turn, has caused the right to decide that they system is no longer working for us either.

So now the stage is set, the lights are on, the band is playing. But we will need some singular event to start the dance. It is quite likely to be a fraudulent 2020 election. Only something of that magnitude is enough to start the war.

Unfortunately it is also probably sufficient to start it, given where we are as a population. Divided and angry.

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Pray_The_Rosary 13 points ago +13 / -0

I'm trying to put together a post detailing how the DNC has been funding and supporting an Islamic Revolution in America. If people don't care about that then they won't care about election fraud.

Also people from the 1850s had tradition and values. They were willing to fight and in many countries, tried to fight off the liberals with force. The generation then and the generation now are two totally different generations with different beliefs on how to handle liberals. Had they been around today, the world around us would be in constant fighting. Mexico, Europe, and the US would be in flames as people try to fight both the Muslims and the liberals.

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christianknight 2 points ago +2 / -0

Muslims aren't behind this.

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PepesCovfefe 2 points ago +2 / -0

This is a great idea. If it’s eloquently written, you should try to publish it as an op-Ed in the epoch times or OAN.

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672-EVIL 3 points ago +3 / -0

I welcome a civil war, even if it means I die while exterminating the enemy. This is bigger than a few lives.

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UpTrump 1 point ago +1 / -0

Hmm. I'm having trouble wrapping my mind around the idea that there might be a full-blown civil war this year. I feel like nobody (except a vocal minority) would actually go and fight. But what do I know?

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CaptainChrisPBacon 49 points ago +51 / -2

The Title IS Very Confusing. It Looks Like Judge Thomas Is Telling The Liberals on the court to stop being 2 faced. Thomas dissented to SCOTUS’ rejection of the case by reasserting that the Second Amendment protects the “fundamental right…of the people to keep and bear Arms…yet in several jurisdictions throughout the country, law-abiding citizens have been barred from exercising the fundamental right to bear arms because they cannot show that they have a ‘justifiable need’ or ‘good reason’ for doing so.”

“One would think that such an onerous burden on a fundamental right would warrant this Court’s review,” Thomas said. “This Court would almost certainly review the constitutionality of a law requiring citizens to establish a justifiable need before exercising their free speech rights.”

“And it seems highly unlikely that the Court would allow a State to enforce a law requiring a woman to provide a justifiable need before seeking an abortion,” Thomas said. “But today, faced with a petition challenging just such a restriction on citizens’ Second Amendment rights, the Court simply looks the other way.”

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YouKnowWhatItIs87 20 points ago +20 / -0

The man’s a genius. Yet another of the countless examples where Biden being completely wrong actually helped this country.

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UpTrump 2 points ago +2 / -0

Fuck why is SCOTUS so cucked now:(

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ENVYNITAZ [S] 39 points ago +40 / -1

Soap Box

Ballot Box

Jury Box <<<------ We are Here

Ammo Box <<< ------ I am here . . .

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mct1 29 points ago +29 / -0

Depending on your location, the Ammo Box is the only option left. If you're stuck behind enemy lines in democrat-controlled hives, well, keep plenty in that box.

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ENVYNITAZ [S] 17 points ago +17 / -0

always be prepared

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mct1 15 points ago +15 / -0

ABC = Always Be Carrying.

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ENVYNITAZ [S] 13 points ago +13 / -0

Amen

where i go so does glock and kel-tec

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white_redoubt 143 points ago +144 / -1

My understanding of this is that the conservative judges think that Roberts is going to cuck out on a gun ruling so they declined all 10 2A cases to run out the clock and wait for a Ginsberg/Breyer replacement. Pretty bullshit but the status quo is better than moving backwards federally.

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physicscat 10 points ago +11 / -1

I don't think they're hurting Trump. I vote strictly Libertarian. Not this year. I'm not his biggest fan, but I least I know he loves this country. With Georgia getting more liberal, I will not take a chance on Biden winning.

All of this stuff from the left, the hypocrisy, the media bias, the pandering, etc...has turned this independent's vote this fall. I can't be the only one.

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christianknight 5 points ago +5 / -0

Georgia going blue...that will be the day. A very dark day for the state and this country.

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shockfactor 5 points ago +5 / -0

They want a federal law enforcement body (KGB) working at the behest of the demonrats the next time they take power.

Tienamen square was done by troops called in from the other side of the country who were fed propaganda from birth with no education. They want their own goons for America which will happily go door to door in red states and strip the rights from american citizens.

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SwampSwan 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yep, because it's obvious that old crow won't live for 4.5 more years.

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JS_Mill 2 points ago +2 / -0

*the

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Toughsky_Shitsky 38 points ago +39 / -1

Roberts is a POS. End of.

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Darkheartisland 19 points ago +19 / -0

Bush's worst legacy.

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Toughsky_Shitsky 13 points ago +13 / -0

I think so, certainly long term.

And W was a fucking lefty moron on many many issues.

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christianknight 4 points ago +4 / -0

Ah good ole Bush, deep state pied piper for the conservatives. Built a massive spy apparatus to catch "hajis" that is now being used against patriots.

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powershellder 9 points ago +10 / -1

I think there’s something terrible they have on him.

It seems like pretty much everyone knows about his possible illegal adoption, so there’s probably something even worse that he doesn’t want to get out.

He should just do the honorable thing and step down.

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LostViking1985 5 points ago +5 / -0

He adopted Irish kids (illegally). If he steps out of line, they'll take his kids from him.

http://beverlytran.blogspot.com/2018/11/scotus-chief-justice-john-roberts-his.html

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shockfactor 5 points ago +5 / -0

Court appointments are for life, the ability to take kids away from someone is 18 years tops.

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Toughsky_Shitsky 2 points ago +3 / -1

Man and/or boy luv, is my guess.

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AllAmericanAdonis 4 points ago +4 / -0

Really the only thing it could be.

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malthrax 27 points ago +28 / -1

this

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Vino 24 points ago +24 / -0

Not to mention the last 2a win that came out of the court, was from a case out of chicago. The guy won, but the city told him to fuck off anyway.

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Italians_Invented_2A 6 points ago +8 / -2

But how about the law that NYC withdrew?

Surely if they withdrew they knew they were going to lose?

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Italians_Invented_2A 8 points ago +8 / -0

What I meant is that SCOTUS should have given a judgement to avoid the bullshit you described.

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alienjesus 126 points ago +126 / -0

They murdered Scalia.

Change my mind.

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malthrax 60 points ago +60 / -0

nah, fren. not gonna change your mind.

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rooftoptendie 31 points ago +32 / -1

w3tw0rks!

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CaptainChrisPBacon 19 points ago +19 / -0

You can it here.It is right in John Podesta emails. wetworks.

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1776-or-1984 12 points ago +12 / -0

Wetworks.

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PepesCovfefe 7 points ago +7 / -0

Wet works in the vineyard!

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TheMAGAnificent 12 points ago +12 / -0

You mean "water works" and Scalia talk between two Clinton Campaign executives a short time before his death ISN'T normal?

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speedychef 3 points ago +3 / -0

So Obama could pick another supreme.

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Pray_The_Rosary 13 points ago +13 / -0

Should just be referred to as "Vatican II schools". Catholics would rather die than host such an abomination.

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Snake 38 points ago +47 / -9

This is my interpretation of today's ruling about lgtbq, which I think I like after thinking about it for a few hours. It's mostly copy/pasted from other responses I've written so everything below is written by me. I'd like to get more thoughts on it because I'm definitely no legal scholar.

I actually agree with the ruling, but I also agree with others that political ideology wouldn't be a bad thing to add to our protected classes.

Person X is attracted to a man. If person X is female and you're ok with it but not if person X is male then that is sex discrimination. I literally haven't heard this argument until today.

Likewise let's say Person X wears skirts. If you're ok with X being female wearing skirts, but not ok with X being male wearing skirts then that is also sex discrimination.

Leftists wanted [males identifying as women] to be officially females, but this ruling literally does the exact opposite lol. The ruling opinion (from Gorsuch) literally says that males identifying as females are not females--they are males. However, if you're ok with a FEMALE doing something then you can't discriminate if a MALE does the same thing.

I honestly don't even think the left knows what this means yet. IMO this is a secret red pill. The ruling is both freedom oriented AND biology oriented and imo cements that males/females are determined at birth and are unrelated to gender.

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MAGAholic 24 points ago +27 / -3

The ruling opinion (from Gorsuch) literally says that males identifying as females are not females--they are males.

Do you have a link to this handy?

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Snake 17 points ago +19 / -2

Having laid out this rule, Gorsuch then explains why discrimination against LGBTQ employees constitutes “sex discrimination” by laying out two examples.

Consider, for example, an employer with two employees, both of whom are attracted to men. The two individuals are, to the employer’s mind, materially identical in all respects, except that one is a man and the other a woman. If the employer fires the male employee for no reason other than the fact he is attracted to men, the employer discriminates against him for traits or actions it tolerates in his female colleague.

That is, if an employer permits its female employees to have sexual and romantic attractions to men but denies that same right to male employees, it is engaged in sex discrimination. It treats men differently than women.

Gorsuch also applies similar logic to a transgender employee:

Or take an employer who fires a transgender person who was identified as a male at birth but who now identifies as a female. If the employer retains an otherwise identical employee who was identified as female at birth, the employer intentionally penalizes a person identified as male at birth for traits or actions that it tolerates in an employee identified as female at birth. Again, the individual employee’s sex plays an unmistakable and impermissible role in the discharge decision.

https://www.vox.com/2020/6/15/21291515/supreme-court-bostock-clayton-county-lgbtq-neil-gorsuch

This entire case falls apart if you get rid of the SEX protection lol. I love this because it should make everyone happy (but it probably won't). LGBTQ people get their protections and we still get to respect biology. Male/female are determined at birth.

One thing this doesn't do (like Tim Pool suggested) is that you can't claim to be a different species because this is about SEX. Tim Pool suggested you could identify as a tiger or something but that really doesn't apply.

Let's say Person X and Person Y identify as a tiger. If person X is a female and Person Y is a male and you fire them both then it's not sex discrimination.

The only way that would be sex discrimination is if you allow a male to be a tiger and not a female (or vice versa).

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No_Malarkey_Joe 6 points ago +6 / -0

I think more than anything else you're going to see employers get even more cagey or creative about why people are getting let go. I'd also guess that people who aren't in protected classes just became more attractive as applicant's because it's less liability if they turn out to be garbage at their job.

As a disclaimer, I'm basing that off some videos I've watched and from reading people's comments on here.

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The_Bloofy_Bullshark 3 points ago +3 / -0

I identify as a man who identifies as a woman identifying as a man. I'm even on HRT (read: blasting a ton of steroids) to get me to the level of man-woman-man I see myself as.

My wife, who is also on steroids, and I have a running joke that she's a tranny. So I'm a MtFtM tranny who is (gay?) married to a FtM (based off of her test levels) tranny.

Really sends the point home about the insanity of it all.

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Snake 3 points ago +5 / -2

People are going to push the craziest bullshit through the courts and force it as high as possible to try to get their 97 genders legitimized.

IMO no this won't happen.

Let's say Person X identifies as Gender Y

  • If Person X is a female and you are ok with them behaving as Gender Y but not if person X is male then that is sex discrimination.
  • If Person X is female and you are ok with them behaving as Gender Y and you are ok with it if X is male then it's not sex discrimination.
  • If Person X is female or if the person is male and you're not ok with either behaving as Gender Y then that is also not sex discrimination.

Imagine if Gender = tiger gender (Tim Pool said something like this). A business owner could not allow either males or females to be employed as tiger gender because there is literally no discrimination based off of sex because all sexes are not allowed to be tiger gender.

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Stationhollow 1 point ago +1 / -0

If their behaviour is something that you don't accept from a male or female then it isn't sex discrimination.

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MakeAmericaLegendary 2 points ago +2 / -0

What if (unironically) ugliness is used to justify the firing? "Person X is ugly and ruins morale. They also happen to be trans, but that's not why we fired them. We fired them for being ugly."

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Snake 1 point ago +1 / -0

Precedent should work fine for this https://www.businessinsider.com/how-can-hooters-hire-only-women-2015-9

Edit: To clarify, you'd be able to get away with this at Hooters or a strip club or if you're making a movie or whatever. Probably wouldn't work for traditional businesses.

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Snake 4 points ago +4 / -0

I replied to the person you replied to.

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AnastasiusFoct 6 points ago +6 / -0

Ultimately, this ruling means that as a human you have equal rights and your sex/gender can not be discriminated against regardless of what it is.

Do nothing democrat libtards have no idea what they've unleashed and will work very very hard to frame this in a way to hide the reality of it
This ruling completely squashes quota hiring, bias hiring and any type of hiring that uses immutable traits to preferentially select.
All it needs is for someone to send a test case to set the precedent

The entire ruling actually makes specific points of not making it about gender, and instead makes it very clear that a persons gender/sex/identified preference can not be used to deny or give advantage to anyone

This is actually great, as it means that men can use these rulings in places like custody cases, access to gender based programs and anyone charging men more money due to muh wage gap.

I'm seeing far too many people making claims about implications of what this means, but really just pushing an agenda into the commentary.

This video reading by a lawyer is a straight reading of the ruling, with mild commentary.
The video is an hour and a half long, but if you want to understand it, without prestitutes putting a huge amount of agenda and spin on it, this is the way to go.

My takeaway is, the legal concept being used is "but for", as in, but for the sex/gender label this would not happen.

Basically, the ruling means using a persons gender to deny OR GIVE ADVANTAGE is discriminatory and thus not permissible

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malthrax 7 points ago +7 / -0

Too bad he didn't make it apply to race, too. Could have ended Affirmative Action without the Left even realizing it.

"using a person's race to deny or give advantage is discriminatory and thus not permissible" would have shot the Democrats in the face.

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AnastasiusFoct 1 point ago +1 / -0

This ruling the justices specifically state they are only dealing with sex/gender

To make a ruling on race of a similar type a new case would need to be brought referencing this one as precedence - and I'm sure it would give the same outcome, but it needs to go to court for the specific topic of race

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UpTrump 1 point ago +1 / -0

Basically, the ruling means using a persons gender to deny OR GIVE ADVANTAGE is discriminatory and thus not permissible

Isn't that what the sex part of the 1964 civil rights act already did?

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AnastasiusFoct 1 point ago +1 / -0

sure did!

But very few people could be bothered to understand this, bringing about this newer ruling the reinforces the previous rulings but brought up to a modern day understanding

Ultimately this case is just a "yeah the original ruling still holds", but in a legal context it's important as it makes it much harder for special interest groups to argue against it, and makes it much easier for anyone fighting discrimination based on gender (especially if they were denied employment for being male)

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sudgy 9 points ago +12 / -3

Well then, I guess I endorse sex discrimination.

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flashersenpai 8 points ago +8 / -0

It's not freedom oriented. Private citizens should be able to choose who their associate with. The government has decided, that instead you are OBLIGATED to give your labor (paycheck, product, service, etc) to other people because of their arbitrary characteristics.

And now who they want to fuck or how they dress is a protected characteristic. The Civil Rights Act was a huge mistake.

An employer should be able to fire someone for whatever reason they want. Whether it's wearing dresses, farting too much, or just looking at you funny.

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Snake -4 points ago +1 / -5

It's not freedom oriented. Private citizens should be able to choose who their associate with. The government has decided, that instead you are OBLIGATED to give your labor (paycheck, product, service, etc) to other people because of their arbitrary characteristics.

Well I'm not exactly sure how that applies to anything that I've said, but I agree with you that we shouldn't do this but I would make one stipulation. I do think Trump was right that we should help people based on class e.g. his healthcare bill provided free care to the poorest American citizens.

I'd be interested in hearing how you think it applies to how people dress or otherwise. What do you think is going to happen? It's not like strip clubs and places like Hooters are going to all of a sudden start being forced to hire trans employees https://www.businessinsider.com/how-can-hooters-hire-only-women-2015-9

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flashersenpai 2 points ago +2 / -0

You said the ruling is freedom oriented. It isn't. It's an extension of the CRA's nullification of freedom of association. Aside from that,

You're asking the wrong question. It's easy not to hire someone. (Although hired enough of NOT some kind of someone and you might get sued.)

The question is firing in this case. The employee "transitioned" after they were hired, then the boss didn't want them to work there anymore. A Hooter's girl could "transition" after being hired. That is where this ruling comes in saying, "Too bad, you can't fire them for changing their appearance because that is sex discrimination." Hooters/etc in particular may have a legal defense, but the vast majority of businesses do not.

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Snake 1 point ago +1 / -0

I'm not sure what you're saying, but yes Hooters would be able to fire someone who transitioned and they have legal precedent to do so. Yes the ruling is freedom oriented.

Why did you use Hooters as an example and then say it didn't apply to them? lol.

Feel free to give another example :)

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flashersenpai 1 point ago +1 / -0

Hooters/etc in particular may have a legal defense, but the vast majority of businesses do not.

These policies do not respect individual rights. It establishes policy in which individual property rights and freedom of speech are subordinate to collective rights.

It is not illegal to dislike gay people or to dislike a race of people. Then why is it illegal to have those ideas while doing a specific act? This is a criminalization of thought, similar to hate crime law.

It's the same premise that forces someone to "bake the gay cake". Because it establishes, that in fact, it is legal to deny service, but not deny service while having "bad thoughts."

"Protected classes" (collective rights) are an poison to a society founded on and purporting to defend individual rights.

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Snake 1 point ago +1 / -0

I don't follow. It's not illegal to dislike someone, and it's also not illegal to have those ideas while doing a specific act. You can still have ideas and it certainly isn't criminalizing thought.

The case we are talking about revolves around employment not an artistic form of speech. One is a sex discrimination case and the other is a free speech case.

I don't really mind protected classes. I think if we added a few more we'd all be happy with it 99% of the time.

I'm not really sure what you're worried about. Can you give me a single example?

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Pau1F01ey 8 points ago +9 / -1

I’m sorry but males need to act like men, not women. There is a phrase in Latin, "Viriliter age" which means Act Manfully or Act Courageously.

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montanapede 7 points ago +8 / -1

Interesting. Ill have to actually read it now.

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Harambe 29 points ago +34 / -5

Libertarian cuckoldry will be the downfall of our nation

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RonaldMcDonald 15 points ago +20 / -5

I'm not sure I follow. Libertarianism allows for freedom of association. If you don't want to hire 99 genders, no libertarian would care.

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RonaldMcDonald 2 points ago +2 / -0

I'm more of a Ron Paul libertarian. People are tribal. Until that changes, borders are necessary.

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MSG1000 2 points ago +3 / -1

Like every ideology it’s been infiltrated and subverted.

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DrLexLuthor 2 points ago +3 / -1

Gorsuch and Roberts are neocons. Don't put this on us, Libertarians heavily oppose this ruling.

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the_sky_is_falling 8 points ago +9 / -1

Wait, how the fuck are sanctuary cities constitutional?

This doesnt make any sense

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UpTrump 2 points ago +2 / -0

...why? wtf

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flashersenpai 1 point ago +2 / -1

they didn't find that, they found that states don't have to help the feds enforce a certain law/laws

Whenever you hear something about a SC case, ALWAYS get the info from legal sources. The overview will almost always be sensational bullshit.

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TheEagleSays 6 points ago +7 / -1

how are sanctuary cities de facto constitutional?

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flashersenpai 2 points ago +3 / -1

they aren't

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Toughsky_Shitsky 20 points ago +21 / -1

International disgrace.

Corrupt players in all branches shit all over the Contitution, their oaths, and Americans while enriching themselves, their friends, and their families .. with zero consequences. Sorry to say that Trump has not changed this 3rd world corruption one single bit.

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Truthdose 1 point ago +2 / -1

saying that he made it worse is like blaming the person who opened the door recealing the decrpit interior of a visually pleasing house...

It was always this bad...Trump just "revealed" it.

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TheSkip61 50 points ago +50 / -0

Clarence Thomas is one of the best Supreme Court justices in our history. He understands the Constitution like no one else !

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ENVYNITAZ [S] 18 points ago +18 / -0

indeed pede

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KAG_Master 7 points ago +7 / -0

I dont know why all these Democrats and liberals are trying to re-write or do away with the Constitution. Its like a Club. You join the club and they have rules. If you dont like the rules, you dont have to join the club. There are lots of other clubs that have their own rules that might be better suited to what you are looking for. Why join the club where you dont like the rules and then try to change them? Just go somewhere else.

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MsQleo 3 points ago +3 / -0

Its a game for them because one kd the rules of our club allows the rules tk be changed by majority vote or court decision...

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montanapede 5 points ago +5 / -0

White male privilege!

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I_Love_45-70_Gov 5 points ago +5 / -0

And to think, he's just showing up to work and doing his job. Simple as that.

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GEOTUS_JR 4 points ago +4 / -0

He learned from Thomas Sowell.

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Italians_Invented_2A 18 points ago +18 / -0

And if you end up using that gun in self defense you're fucked.

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USS_Pain 4 points ago +4 / -0

How’s that? We have the perfect excuse to cover our faces right now. Also, do not carry any smart devices on you when you are armed. Just blast the attacker and leave, how will you be identified?

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Italians_Invented_2A 1 point ago +2 / -1

But is it not better to fight for gun rights in Cali, instead of giving up, so that you don't end up in either of those?

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Sticky 2 points ago +4 / -2

Not if he is on his own property right?

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malthrax 6 points ago +6 / -0

The only thing you say to the cops when they show up is "lawyer". Don't even bother saying that "I was terrified" or "he threatened to kill my baby". Fake being shellshocked or PTSD'd or w/e if you have to.

Nothing you say will make the cops "go away" or make the situation vanish in a puff of smoke. Focus on NOT saying a damned thing. Focus really really hard on NOT trying to talk you way out of this - its not a speeding ticket.

One word.

"Lawyer"

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Wfdeacon88 3 points ago +3 / -0

I was reading and agreeing with both of your core points ... One thing key to remember. Make sure your spouse also knows this, and kids if they are older. Can you imagine them saying something dumb unintentionally.. after saving them... Yikes

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ENVYNITAZ [S] 9 points ago +9 / -0

Amen Patriopede

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Liberal_Tear_Addict 5 points ago +5 / -0

Yes.

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CQVFEFE 3 points ago +3 / -0

california is open carry????

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Toughsky_Shitsky 33 points ago +34 / -1

US Constitution:

Gun rights are explicitly spelled out in th Constitution. 2nd Amendment .. it's right there .. just gotta look it up.

The "right" to murder innocent babies had to be conjured up by evil leftist SCOTUS pols.

Do SCOTUS justices even know what their job is?

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PepesCovfefe 28 points ago +28 / -0

Even though this guy is considered the most “right” justice, he is a centrist to me. He merely follows the constitution as its written. Since when is that right wing?!

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I_Love_45-70_Gov 12 points ago +12 / -0

Precisely. He is not an activist judge; he is simply doing his job: interpreting the Constitution without any pomp and circumstance.

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CaptainChrisPBacon 11 points ago +11 / -0

That is anyone wants.Follow the Constitution.

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CQVFEFE 7 points ago +7 / -0

Since it's the opposite of what the shrieking left wants

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HughGRection 27 points ago +27 / -0

They tried their best with Thomas, with their "virtual lunching", but that was all they had. He is clean and they can't do shit to him, so he speaks the truth.

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Pandas4Trump 8 points ago +12 / -4

Thomas looks like a man who would be enraged by a virtual lunch

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cjcivicx 4 points ago +4 / -0

I mean, wouldn’t most people...

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HughGRection 2 points ago +2 / -0

Haha

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MrMcGreenGenes 20 points ago +20 / -0

Clarence Thomas for Chief Justice.

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ENVYNITAZ [S] 5 points ago +5 / -0

Selah

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MAGA_____bitches 18 points ago +19 / -1

We need RBG to "retire "

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ENVYNITAZ [S] 8 points ago +9 / -1

the day is coming . . .

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CaptainChrisPBacon 8 points ago +9 / -1

She is on a weekend at Bernies Vacation. Change My Mind

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CQVFEFE 3 points ago +4 / -1

Seriously.

BAMN

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pikabu 2 points ago +5 / -3

Wishing an old woman's death is wrong, no matter what position she holds. Let's be civil.

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1776-or-1984 6 points ago +7 / -1

He said retire, not die.

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malthrax 1 point ago +1 / -0

That's rather sexist of you. Why can't a woman be held in such high regard?

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DrLexLuthor 0 points ago +2 / -2

How many millions of people has she helped kill? If this was Hitler would you be saying to be civil? The whole idea about being civil in politics is moronic.

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malthrax 1 point ago +1 / -0

or be "retired".

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Strike_Eagle784 13 points ago +15 / -2

Saw this out in the wild, but a no ruling is better then a crappy ruling that could've set back the 2A more then it is already. We have to hang on, vote for Trump in November, and hope he gets another SCOTUS pick in his second term, that way we can get the court in a better position for a positive ruling.

Also, not that we didn't know this already, but Clarence Thomas is a true hero of the people, if there's another silver lining that could be drawn from this.

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ENVYNITAZ [S] 9 points ago +10 / -1

he gets another SCOTUS pick in his second term

GEOTUS will, and I want National Reciprocity.

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PepesCovfefe 7 points ago +7 / -0

Can’t believe we don’t already have this.

You should also be able to move between states without dealing with firearm transfer nonsense.

Also, no tax stamp BS for suppressors or SBRs.

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flashersenpai 4 points ago +4 / -0

permits from my area are valid in 33 states already, would be good to just have things settled

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PepesCovfefe 2 points ago +2 / -0

Love how SD has reciprocity with every state!

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CQVFEFE 13 points ago +15 / -2
  1. Arrest John Roberts

  2. Try for treason

  3. Execute

  4. Watch as President Ray Cyst names the first black Chief Justice of the Supreme Court

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SwampDrainer 11 points ago +11 / -0

I'm starting to think that the reason we're in this mess as a punishment for killing 60 million defenseless babies. Once they get the guns, millions of defenseless adults will probably be killed too. Lord help us, please.

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SwampDrainer 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yup. You "get the ventilator" if your old and live in a blue state. God help us.

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ENVYNITAZ [S] 9 points ago +9 / -0

many powerful people high up in gov are sociopaths, closeted gays and pedophiles

TRUTH!

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CaptainChrisPBacon 9 points ago +12 / -3

The Title IS Very Confusing. It Looks Like Judge Thomas Is Telling The Liberals on the court to stop being 2 faced. Thomas dissented to SCOTUS’ rejection of the case by reasserting that the Second Amendment protects the “fundamental right…of the people to keep and bear Arms…yet in several jurisdictions throughout the country, law-abiding citizens have been barred from exercising the fundamental right to bear arms because they cannot show that they have a ‘justifiable need’ or ‘good reason’ for doing so.”

“One would think that such an onerous burden on a fundamental right would warrant this Court’s review,” Thomas said. “This Court would almost certainly review the constitutionality of a law requiring citizens to establish a justifiable need before exercising their free speech rights.”

“And it seems highly unlikely that the Court would allow a State to enforce a law requiring a woman to provide a justifiable need before seeking an abortion,” Thomas said. “But today, faced with a petition challenging just such a restriction on citizens’ Second Amendment rights, the Court simply looks the other way.”

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Italians_Invented_2A 8 points ago +10 / -2

The irony is not lot on me that the only judge we can reliably trust is black.

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flashersenpai 1 point ago +3 / -2

I don't see the irony?

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Italians_Invented_2A 2 points ago +2 / -0

Blacks vote around 95% Democrats and it's their most reliable voter block by far.

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DarkRiver 8 points ago +8 / -0

Supreme Court needs a massive clean up...lots of cucks and globalists

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remember1776 8 points ago +8 / -0

In the words of Charles Barkley. TURRIBLE.

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Alphahorizon 6 points ago +6 / -0

It's almost time to burn it all to the ground and start a new

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GitmObama 5 points ago +5 / -0

Burn it down.

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schnazzmizzle 3 points ago +3 / -0

I need to conserve my "hearing"..

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BiscuitsBrown 3 points ago +3 / -0

lots of clueless takes on abortion here, Roe v. Wade needs to be overturned end of story

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SemperFree 3 points ago +3 / -0

Scotus is garbage. Piece of shit court.

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LibertyOverSecurity 4 points ago +4 / -0

I agree with you. They are allowed to be so by garbage and piece of shit congress.

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DaoDeDickinson 3 points ago +3 / -0

What law school allows anyone to teach the truth anymore?

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Hexagon 3 points ago +3 / -0

He is right, Roberts sucks as much as the idiot who appointed him.

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RenaissanceOfHope 3 points ago +3 / -0

I understand people being personally pro-life and although I hate the idea of banning abortions, I would be pleased if arm implants or IUDs to reduce unplanned pregnancies were available at little or no cost to anyone from whatever age birth control becomes necessary via puberty to whenever pregnancy becomes literally impossible (the best way to reduce abortions is to reduce unplanned pregnancies).

But this is a sticky situation in terms of “my body my choice” because if we reject that argument now then they could try to make us take a dangerous vaccine, get unknowingly deceived into some experiment, or get microchipped unless you want to be a 2nd class citizen...

Without the right to life outside of the womb all of the other rights become useless, and yes I am throwing shade at you CCP!

But we can’t take away a pregnant woman’s bodily autonomy or personal liberty either. This whole controversy is a no-win situation.

If someone is pregnant and does not want to be a parent at all, but they don’t want an abortion, a transfer portal available to any adoptive family in the US who passes a background check should work (even across state lines) with criteria filter set by adoptive families & birth parents.

And yes, we need to get financial abortion passed in exchange for keeping Roe v Wade (I don’t like how the Feds told the states what to do).

Edit: I don’t blame or judge anyone for getting an abortion or really cast light on the morality of it, but given my hatred for the death penalty, I am not enthusiastic about abortion either (I’m not Catholic) largely because the method of abortion is absolutely painful, cruel, and unusual.

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Tucker2024 2 points ago +2 / -0

It’s because they don’t trust Roberts. Have faith in the 4 “constitutionalists” on the Court. They would never leave 2A out to dry.

One bad ruling by Roberts and they could gut our rights.

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ENVYNITAZ [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

It’s because they don’t trust Roberts.

me either

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DaemonKrog 3 points ago +3 / -0

Just living in Jersey should be justification enough.

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KeepingAmericaGreat 2 points ago +2 / -0

Robust presentation of test cases are in order. This requires funding to ensure safety of citizens and to relinquish the habituation of a false narrative.

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Iamnotananimal 2 points ago +2 / -0

All I want to know is as a lesbian woman stuck in a man's body can I get on this protected class gravy train and sue anybody?

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morningpancakes 2 points ago +2 / -0

Where the hell is RBG...

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ENVYNITAZ [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

he is gonna get at least one more

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1776ThereIsaidIt 2 points ago +2 / -0

Gorsuck strikes again. The left get solid liberal justices we get two real conservatives in 30 years. Scalia Didn't Eat Himself To Death.

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MagaMagaChooChoo 2 points ago +2 / -0

Two tiered justice system.

Democrats use voter fraud, so voting doesnt help.

The courts just do whatever Democrats want, regardless of what the law says.

"Republicans" in Congress just do whatever Democrats want.

Serious question: why are we not boogaloo'ing yet? We have no recourse and we've been shown time after time that we won't get any no matter what we do.

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MsQleo 1 point ago +1 / -0

AG Barr locks uo boogaloo boys bro didnt you see?

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Tarded 1 point ago +1 / -0

This is severely disappointing.

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AmericanJawa 1 point ago +1 / -0

People keep talking about needing Justices in the mold of Scalia; I'm inclined to think that what we really need are more Justices in the mold of Thomas.

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Yawnz13 1 point ago +2 / -1

Can't wait for the disingenuous hacks to try to spin this as Clarence Thomas saying that abortion is just as important as 1A or 2A.

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RaginJake379 1 point ago +2 / -1

I had no idea Clarence Thomas was a white supremacist.

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ENVYNITAZ [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

kek

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StillplayenSometimes 9 points ago +9 / -0

Most people don't even know about that, if there was proper education to all the corruption with plan parenthood and the pressure they put on girls to get abortions it'd be a whole different story.

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I_Love_45-70_Gov 5 points ago +5 / -0

If there were just some institution or government watchdog who could get the truth out to the masses; some technology that could simultaneously transmit audio and video through the ether, and then onto viewing boxes placed in each home.

I guess I'm just a dreamer, but maybe one day we'll have this in our lives.

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rooftoptendie 5 points ago +8 / -3

THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't have a strong opinion on first term abortions. I just don't.

But late 2nd and all 3rd term abortions should be illegal imo, and PP MUST BE SHUT DOWN! If an abortion is going to happen, it should be done by first consulting with YOUR GP.

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StillplayenSometimes 12 points ago +17 / -5

Yeah lets stop worrying about murder. People aren't going to stop.

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MelonLabia 10 points ago +11 / -1

Stop worrying about the termination of human life you say?

By that logic do you advocate we stop caring about rapes and murders?

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Pau1F01ey 5 points ago +5 / -0

How can you not worrying about a fucking holocaust murdering the innocent!?

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Vashts1985 1 point ago +1 / -0

its cuz they haven't figured out how to word salad away our 2A rights yet.