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speaking of things they admitted. Why is it so hard for people to believe that the Democrats purposely caused the recession in order to hurt Trump for the election? In 2016 they literally admitted that was their plan. They were very open about it..
does nobody remember when Bill Maher literally said that the Democrats plan was to cause a recession and blame Trump for it??
we could have a real media. If most of the GOP wasn't controlled by libertarian special interests..
all it would take to have an honest media is for the GOP to grow some balls and pass some regulations forcing the media to tell the truth. we tried letting them say whatever they wanted. That didn't work. which means it's time for something elsee.
such as having the FCC and FTC step in and issue fines when they're deliberately lying for one political party over another..
and we could have that. accept that the GOP was always controlled by libertarian special interests who put corporations above Americans..
and CNN is a corporation. which means they put CNN's interest above your interestss..
FEC could probably hit them as well. How much tech/msm fuckery could be considered in kind contributions? How many emails detailing coordination are there? We have the laws we just need the will to enforce them.
alternatively returning media ownership rules to pre-2k ,and abolish 6 ppl hold all media (this is what really fuked it up, evidenced by turning various MSM channels simultaneously on and listen chorus tell same news on same words simultaneously)
Here's a shorter way to put it, if you regulate news companies so they are required to tell the 'truth', who decides what is true? Plus, who has the money to pay the fines, and who doesn't?
It could, also, be attributed to media monopolies that need to be broken up, and allow competition. Huge monopolies are no different than big government. There are, also, Libertarian solutions that actually work and can't be turned against the people enacting them. We've tried fighting control with control for years. It doesn't work. Break up the massive companies that are pushing these MSM networks, break their affiliation and government support, let them just be stand alone businesses competing with other news businesses. The problem will clear up.
If they were to win in November, I guarantee you this would disappear overnight. If Trump wins again, we won't stop hearing about this shit for the next 4 years.
So true. But I will happily deal with four more years of their tears just to have another election night like last one. My God was that great, and it's going to be even better than 2016. I've learned to derive sustenance from their salty delicious tears.
If the Dems win in November, America would disappear overnight. This is why the Trump victory is so crucial, just go back to the Obama days, did America feel like America? Bush was a son of a bitch and a war criminal, but at least under him America felt like America, Clinton was a son of a bitch and a rapist, but (and disprove me if I'm wrong, I was born in 1997) from what I've seen, America felt like America. When Obama became president, they had one goal, shift America into a communist country to the point that the land I lived through as a child is unrecognizable. I witnessed it in real time and witnessed the shift happen. Trump on the other hand said 'fuck this' and made America feel like America again. I remember waking up the morning after the election 1.) Hungover as fuck on the floor in my frat house hallway because of the party the night before, and 2.) with a sense of optimism I had not felt since I was 10 years old.
My mental health is going to go south if the Democrats win in November. This chance at getting our country back is really one of the few things that help me whenever I get depressed (my life is a lot better than it used to be but it still flares up).
That's the biggest thing about the "abolish the police" movement. If they were also calling for the complete and utter abolition of gun laws as well as mandatory stand your ground laws then maybe I'd take them a little more seriously, because, while as stupid as abolishing the police is, at least that is a solution that makes sense.
The Left wants to monopolize the use of force for themselves. This is all an effort to remove public policing for privatization of the use of force.
Thats why they want to get rid of 2A. When the only people that have guns will be the government and those who are connected to government, we have a problem on our hands.
HEY-- you know that 150 million people were killed by gun violence last year alone! So come on man, gimmie a break. You cannot go into a 7-11 or a Dunkin' Donuts without running into an armed Indian. That's the problem with.. with the thing, you know.. it's what we're facing every day in our great country of Canada. PERIOD. We need to change this culture, and keep shooting at it and shooting at it and shooting it down.
We hold these truths to be self-evident and we choose truth over facts! So get your words straight Jack. You're too old to vote for me. If you wanna challenge me let's go outside and do some push-ups man, go running, whatever you like, boom boom boom, Corn Pop was a bad dude. Used pomade in his hair and had a big chain. So I walked out to my car, get the knife, used to let it sit out in the rain barrel.. and, well.. come on man. I love kids jumping on my lap. My times up.
"look corn pop odonnel. youre stomach looks like malarkey"
"mr biden thats not appropriate. but since you said it the party has decided it IS appropriate and any american who likes rosie O'Donnell will be jailed for thoughtcrime"
"listen. im president. and your not"
"lol do you feel in charge? mr soros has a sniper rifle trained on you at this very second. and we cut to commercial""
whistle whistle!
"mr biden wear did u get a whistle?"
"shut up! get out of the pool!""
"godangit"
"listen folks-"
"YOU SHUT THE FUCK UP! WERE THE MODERATORS HERE AND WE GAVE BIDEN THE QUESTIONS EARLY AND HE BLEW IT!! STUPID DRUMPHH"
that's why you should never gave to them. you wouldn't cave to a spoiled would you? you would tell them no. you tell them this is the way it's going to be for your own go
Mistake. I am with guys like Black Pilled on this. We need someone to man up and explain why statistically there is no systemic racism with regards to police. We can PROVE this - and its trivial.
All this does is weaken the police. Sure I am pissed off at the cops for arresting regular folks for working. But this sounds the wrong message to Antifa.
We have to stop treating blacks like its the end of the world if we make them angry. This might get downvotes but between bending to Fauci and his ilk and bending to actual thugs. This has been a weak year for Trump.
He needs to bring Bannon back. We need guys with fight - not Jared Kushner..
Said the same thing 12 hours earlier and was downvoted into oblivion. Sometimes even pedes voluntarily let the wool be pulled over their eyes. Trump shouldn’t placate, kowtow or lift one pen to sign shit to appease these fucks and that’s what it is, appeasement. You give them an inch, they want 20 miles. Give them 20 miles, they’ll want it all. Pandering for black votes is ridiculous. They aren’t going to vote for Trump even if he gave them their precious reparations. Tell them to eat a bag of shit, kickstart the rallies, get the base fired up again and take this thing home. The silent majority has been effectively muzzled.
It's more then a political mistake - its a bad for our country.
The left doesn't believe in incentives - but the right should. If you learn that by throwing a temper tantrum you get what you want.. You will throw more temper tantrums.
BLM is the group that openly chanted about burning police alive - and now they have raised BILLIONS of dollars for their cause. Not one fucking Senate/House guy can come out and say - hey those guys want to burn police alive - maybe we shouldn't give money to them.
The left I get - it's the right that's pissing me off. Can't take a stand against burning people alive?!
Statistics don't convince nor persuade anyone except accountants. People are persuaded by stories and they are persuaded by visual stories most. That's why the Floyd story blew up into the biggest divider in our generation. Because there was 8:46 of visual emotionally painful story that ripped people into pieces and they felt they either needed revenge or they needed forgiveness--anything to find relief after sitting through what appears to be a huge injustice on its surface.
No one said, oh look, stats on police shootings say everything is fine. That won't even register because of the apparently obvious story of racism they saw with their own eyes.
We don't bow to the lowest common denominator. If you can't understand basic stats then get fucking locked up when you riot over nothing. Good fucking riddance.
It's time to stop coddling the weak, the dumb, the lazy. Life needs to have consequences again. Don't abolish the police, abolish the safety nets and welfare. Let the productive attend solely to the advancement of society, and stop wasting their efforts lifting up those who can't even support themselves. Allow the dregs die off as they screen impotently into the night, we gain nothing trying to save then from themselves.
Where we are now is a result of creating a consequence free society where those incompatible with a peaceful advanced society are allowed to proliferate.
He doesn't mention systemic racism or similar terms in this EO (I could be wrong and I'll read it again) and anything leashing the power of the states enforcement am (within reason) is okay by me. The police have a problem with abusing their power, and its largely the union.
BLM activists don't have any use for achieving any set goals. It's the existence of some issue that they use to make money. Just like there is no money in a cure for cancer, it's repeat business that BLM wants.
exactly. there is nothing they won't flip flop on and nothing they won't lie about to seize power. As Dwight D Eisenhower said. when you have a party that is not founded in advancing a cars or doing what is right then you do not have a political party.. you have a conspiracy to seize power
it's time to recognize that your strategy of talking to left-wingers is not working. And here's why..
when you talk to left-wingers and left-wing voters you talk to them as if they're being lied to. when the reality is they're the ones doing the lying.
you think the average Democrat voter isn't in on it? you think they don't know that they're full of shit? They know that they're full of shit. They also know that they have to say and lie about a lot of things in order to get what they wantt
"i domt like the way the entire system is set up! do im gonna take a handful of people and start a NEW multi billion dollar system! and me and my friends are gonna put the old one out of business because a few hundred of us is more than enough to financially ruin Everything that already exists!"
why dont you just redraw the borders of the usa while youre at it?
and rewrite the Constitution and replace every member of govt?
sometimes I wonder if the far-right free-market worshippers even live in anything resembling reality? you think that you're just going to replace every single company in the world with a "conservative version"
and that somehow you and a few hundred other radical extremists are going to be enough to completely bankrupt every single multinational billion dollar company LOL. yeah I'm sure you and your close friends are more than enough to completely replace Facebook and I'm sure all 1.5 billion Facebook users are going to go to your right wing Facebook just because it exists. you know they're all fed up with the left-wing stuff. since every single person in the world is a hardcore Trump supporter. I mean they must be! every one of your close friends is a hardcore Trump supporter so clearly every single person in the world must be!
you live in an alternate reality with alternate facts. you don't understand how the real world works because you don't live in the real world. you live in this carefully curated bubble you made for yourself only surrounded by people who agree with you..
you also don't understand how the economy works. like a petulant child do you want to make an entirely new economy just for conservatives and you think that somehow the solution..
and we know you didn't come up with it. That idea was put in your head by corporatist Libertarians who worship the free market and the almighty dollar. Libertarians who don't have a problem with Facebook anyway because Facebook is a corporation and Libertarians are the puppets of corporations..
replace the whole internet LOL. what a ridiculous thing to say
only an idiot would think that would work. but I don't think you actually want to sell the problem. I think you just want a small platform to circle jerk with a small handful of people who agree with you. you don't really care what the rest of the world is doing you don't really care who's running the country you just want a small website where you can circle jerk and complain with a small handful of people who agree with you..
we need to regulate these companies. you don't want to regulate these companies because you have been train by decades of libertarian propaganda to worship the almighty dollar and put corporations before people. On the hierarchy of things you care about you have been trained to put the interests of corporations above the interests of anybody else..
and so you would never support regulating a corporation because you're trained to shill for corporations
that's why you proposed things that wouldn't work. The goal is to help corporations make money. not help Americans live life..
Libertarians have an entirely different set of goals than the average American. Libertarians goals are to make rich people as comfortable as possible and as rich as possible. They don't care what has to happen to make that occur. Libertarians are the henchmen of rich people.
that's why you hate the government. Because of government is generally controlled and voted for by poor people. since the majority of people in America are poor the government generally gets voted for by mostly poor people. Rich people have very little say overall compared to the votes of poor people. which is why you're very against the government passing laws. Because when the government passes laws that innocence is poor people passing laws. And your ideology is meant to worship the rich. so the last thing you want is a democracy where the country is run by the poor..
that's why you want to take away power from the government. Because the government is the people. And you want to take away power from the people and give it to a bunch of big corporations. you would much rather have the country be run by Goldman Sachs then a democratically elected president..
you would much rather have Facebook censor Free speech then the government protect it..
you've been trained to hate all things government and worship all things corporate..
to be against even good things that the government does and support even bad things that corporations do
and you have been trained that this mythical free-market is the answer. basically if you pray to the almighty dollar it will swoop down and save you loll
even though you have absolutely zero historical examples of the free market replacing corrupt corporations or doing anything good really.
there's multiple examples of the free market creating bad things the free market created censorship the free market created corruption the free market created racism and the free market created fake news. And you're trained to think that the free market is going to fix the problems it created? The free market is a lie. it's a lie told you by corporations who want you to allow them to do whatever they want..
telling you that voting with your dollar is somehow better than voting with your vote LOL
it's because they don't want you to vote on the government they want you to let them do whatever they choose. And what better way to do that than convince you that there's this magical thing that if you just let corporations do whatever they want unrestricted they will decide to do what's best for you..
out of the kindness of their heart or something. it's time to regulate Facebook and it's time to ignore the people that don't want to
those people got us into this mess. those people have destroyed the economy multiple times with their libertarian free-market bullshit..
and they are a group of extremists that don't really exist anywhere except the Internet
Bro, I work in this industry and have for over 20 years. Also it's not a few hundred people with this idea.
Here is the is situation. We have communication and security risks thanks to those very companies selling out to China. They have imported H1B1 visa of people who hate America. They've riddled our digital infrastructure. Obama handed off management of the Internet before leaving. We have platform tribalism and active psy-ops being played out daily. Our history is rewritten daily along with definitions. There is no integrity and we have generations coming up through the digital age.
In addition to the above, we have corporate and foreign money in politics - that's not going away
We don't have term limits - not going away.
We have fake news media - not going away.
We have systematic discrimination in these industries to prevent diverse opinions from helping shape the digital future.
We start a business and they falsely label us as racist and cut off our revenue. As a free enterprise they have the right to destroy US. What alternatives do we have? Very little because the complexity of engines we depend on are all sitting with Silicon Valley.
The design of the current Internet and those components that fuel experience and information and the laws that protect them require politicians that are paid off by the enemy.
Our only hope of saving the future is creating innovative alternatives. It's the American Way!
This happens in every fucking industry so don't give me shit and be condescending towards me. You position my idea as some simpleton use case. It's not and our country could use it's own secondary system. Our country could be devastated if we lost or had disruption with the 1 we have.
It's pervasive across the entire site. Saw the past week in /gifs it was full of democrat, pro Obama propaganda "herp derp, Obama can drink water, Obama can walk down some stairs".
President Trump could come out and completely abolish the police, say that America will now be a fully communist nation, that all conservatives are persona non grata, destroy the Bill of Rights, etc., and the left would still hate it and turn against him and argue the other side.
Some of the ignorance there is amazing. European fags who may have been to Disneyland or NYC once on vacation somehow claim to understand what life is like in Sheboygan or Laramie.
Whatever Trump does, he is a priori racist and evil in the eyes of liberals, so they won't care. You cannot disprove their hypothesis with facts or reason.
ERRRMAAAAAHHHHHGAEERRRRG THATS NOT REAL REFORM DRUMPF IS GOING TO GIVE THEM MORE MONEY, GUNS AND TRAINING TO KILL MORE BLACK PEOPLE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
This comes up a lot. But here is the thing - lots of liberals say and do the same things as leftists. They have become indistinguishable. The remaining liberals are either libertarians or conservatives.
yeah a lot of right-wingers tend to focus on words way too much. words that mean whatever you want them to mean. They mean whatever people use them as. once upon a Time the word gaming meant happy. but if you say the word gay you're probably not talking about happy..
words mean whatever they mean well how people use them. And their meanings can change over time. you can try to redefine liberal to claim that conservatives are liberals but that's stupid and nobody's buying it. The people that call themselves Liberals are the fascist left-wingers. That's what liberal is. stop trying to redefine terms to fit whatever you want things to meann
lots of liberals say and do the same things as leftists
No, just because a leftist calls himself a liberal, doesn't magically make it so.
Here are the principles of classical liberalism that Ashford identifies:
Liberty is the primary political value. “When deciding what to do politically — what should the government do — classical liberals have one clear standard: Does this increase, or does it reduce the freedom of the individual?”
Individualism. “The individual is more important than the collective.”
Skepticism about power. “Government, for example, often claims ‘we’re forcing you to do X because it’s in your own interests to do so.’ Whereas very often, when people with power do that, it’s really because it’s good for themselves. Classical liberals believe that the individual is the best judge of their own interests.”
Rule of law.
Civil society. Classical liberals believe that problems can be dealt with best by voluntary associations and action.
Spontaneous order. “Many people seem to assume that order requires some institution, some body, to manipulate and organize things. Classical liberals don’t believe that. They believe that order can arise spontaneously. People through their voluntary interaction create the rules by which people can live by.”
Free markets. “Economic exchange should be left to voluntary activity between individuals. … We need private property to be able to do that. … History show us that leaving things to free markets rather than government planning or organization, increases prosperity, reduces poverty, increases jobs, and provides good that people want to buy.”
Toleration. “Toleration is the belief that one should not interfere with things on which one disapproves. … It’s a question of having certain moral principles (“I think this action is wrong”), but I will not try and force my opinions — for example through government — to stop the things I disapprove of.”
Peace. Through free movement of capital, labor, goods, services, and ideas, we can have a world based on peace rather than conflict and war.
Limited government. “There are very few things the government should do. The goal of government is simply to protect life, liberty, and property. Anything beyond that is not justifiable.”
No True Scotsman. Group of people claim to be Liberals - they do X Y Z. You claim they are not "real" liberals.
But we are at the point where there is no one that claims to be a liberal in this country that pushes those values. They might say something like "they used to call me a liberal".
My parents are both "liberals" in their mind. In reality they have moved very far left like all "liberals." Again all the people that were liberals have joined the right or a libertarian.
You can point to book definitions - but we all know this is true. Words change meaning and liberal means leftist at this point. It generally is a leftist of the useful idiot variety. Someone who doesn't understand communism - someone that doesn't understand the issues with the welfare state. Someone who doesn't understand the Constitution.
yeah a lot of right-wingers tend to focus on words way too much. words that mean whatever you want them to mean. They mean whatever people use them as. once upon a Time the word gaming meant happy. but if you say the word gay you're probably not talking about happy..
words mean whatever they mean well how people use them. And their meanings can change over time. you can try to redefine liberal to claim that conservatives are liberals but that's stupid and nobody's buying it. The people that call themselves Liberals are the fascist left-wingers. That's what liberal is. stop trying to redefine terms to fit whatever you want things to meann
The progressive left has tarnished the "liberal" moniker to the point that its poison to associate with it. Prefixing it with "classical" doesn't help.
And the individualism of libertarians is what makes arguments about sexual identity so ridiculous philosophically for libertarians to try to oppose. Best example of this is Jordan Peterson. He says he won't follow the law about transgender pronouns because it violates free speech, but then says he'll use the pronouns in a personal situation if the person asks politely. That's absolute nonsense. That's the conundrum of classical liberalism. It's still relativistic. It just asserts the One over the Many. It's still an ideology. Christianity resolves the conflict of the one and the many into a harmonious relationship. But secular Deism, which became secular atheism, which infuses classical liberalism, is the most prominent worldview in America now.
I read the order. I like the order. I think it's really pushing to address problems that exist in police departments, and prevent bad apples from jumping from one position to another instead of leaving law enforcement entirely.
Could more be done? Sure. But I haven't seen one single Democrat offering specific solutions.
If Trump wins in November, the first thing he better do is put Ivanka and Jared on a one way flight to NYC and forget their address. They’re awful and they’ve been fucking shit up for three years.
Lol. People who don't understand or don't care about the difference between a legislative bill and an executive order have no business commenting on either.
There's really not a whole lot the president can do to dictate how municipal-level policing is done.
I think the database is a good idea. If someone is a bad cop, it should be easy for other departments to see that they were fired for being a bad cop. At least then anyone who then hires the bad cop will know exactly what they're signing up for.
The White House release is a lot of words that say nothing but it's still nice to see a somewhat measured response.
My God you hit that on the head. If Orange Man Likes, We the NPC’s Hate!!!! Liberal are seriously mentally challenged. Trust me I’m from Biden’s state.
If these asshats had been participating in local elections and contacting their representatives ahead of...oh...I dunno...the pandemic they’d be able to address these issues the right way. The executive doesn’t run the show on local policing. I don’t think we want the executive to, either.
This EO isn't for the left. This EO is for the normies who are scared and confused.
Daddy took action and that should be a good start to start soothing worries.
I'm not sure where I stand on chokeholds; I know from experience how dangerous and even deadly they can be. But I also know how effective they are. I guess the fact that officers can still use them in life-threatening situations doesn't affect them THAT much, since situations that require that kind of hold would automatically be life-threatening?
He circumvented the need for a national police force. All this is put back on local PDs and independent organizations. I believe that there are monetary incentives for good officers as well, not sure where I saw that though. The discussion of nationalizing or privatizing police is over, at least for now.
I kid you not there are actually posts and Tweets claiming Trump is only doing this to trick black people because he's desperate for votes. These people are the walking stereotype of a pot calling kettles... you know.
Teddy Roosevelt was right to break up corporate monopolies. These aren't purely private businesses. They get a charter from the government that protects against liabilities. If you own a house or sole proprietorship you can be sued for every last dime but these corporations get immunity while skirting our taxes.
The only police reform the left wants now is the abolishment of police.
No. They want police .. their own thugs - criminal marxists as police.
Back in 2008 0bama told us what the marxists wanted. Brown Shirts and Stazi.
And then all the racist RUBES voted for him 2x ONLY because he was 1/2 black
speaking of things they admitted. Why is it so hard for people to believe that the Democrats purposely caused the recession in order to hurt Trump for the election? In 2016 they literally admitted that was their plan. They were very open about it..
does nobody remember when Bill Maher literally said that the Democrats plan was to cause a recession and blame Trump for it??
We remember
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/06/09/maher_im_hoping_for_a_crashing_economy_so_we_can_get_rid_of_trump_bring_on_the_recession.html
You're just a conspiracy nut /s
It’s not a recession, as I understand it, by definition.
Not from lack of trying on their part, though. Not from lack of trying.
Memory is shot with sheeple. Also actors/politicians/msm are nice people and care about me.
Halfrican in Mom jeans. What a putz
How have i never before heard the term "halfrican"?
0bama = Halfrican Unamerican
0bama is gay.
we could have a real media. If most of the GOP wasn't controlled by libertarian special interests..
all it would take to have an honest media is for the GOP to grow some balls and pass some regulations forcing the media to tell the truth. we tried letting them say whatever they wanted. That didn't work. which means it's time for something elsee.
such as having the FCC and FTC step in and issue fines when they're deliberately lying for one political party over another..
and we could have that. accept that the GOP was always controlled by libertarian special interests who put corporations above Americans..
and CNN is a corporation. which means they put CNN's interest above your interestss..
FEC could probably hit them as well. How much tech/msm fuckery could be considered in kind contributions? How many emails detailing coordination are there? We have the laws we just need the will to enforce them.
alternatively returning media ownership rules to pre-2k ,and abolish 6 ppl hold all media (this is what really fuked it up, evidenced by turning various MSM channels simultaneously on and listen chorus tell same news on same words simultaneously)
Here's a shorter way to put it, if you regulate news companies so they are required to tell the 'truth', who decides what is true? Plus, who has the money to pay the fines, and who doesn't?
Canada went this route, now we have hate speech laws in our constitution...
It could, also, be attributed to media monopolies that need to be broken up, and allow competition. Huge monopolies are no different than big government. There are, also, Libertarian solutions that actually work and can't be turned against the people enacting them. We've tried fighting control with control for years. It doesn't work. Break up the massive companies that are pushing these MSM networks, break their affiliation and government support, let them just be stand alone businesses competing with other news businesses. The problem will clear up.
In the same way that Soros is getting commie Attorneys General elected.
AGs that can undermine the police at every step. Just like in Atlanta!
They want brown shirts for sure. Justice for them but not for us.
Power* for them, no power for us.
No justice for them, injustice for us
If they were to win in November, I guarantee you this would disappear overnight. If Trump wins again, we won't stop hearing about this shit for the next 4 years.
So true. But I will happily deal with four more years of their tears just to have another election night like last one. My God was that great, and it's going to be even better than 2016. I've learned to derive sustenance from their salty delicious tears.
just throw every liberal in prison. end the bullshit
You misspelled "from a helicopter".
Every leftist or commie. There are plenty on the more liberal side of the Republican Party .
If the Dems win in November, America would disappear overnight. This is why the Trump victory is so crucial, just go back to the Obama days, did America feel like America? Bush was a son of a bitch and a war criminal, but at least under him America felt like America, Clinton was a son of a bitch and a rapist, but (and disprove me if I'm wrong, I was born in 1997) from what I've seen, America felt like America. When Obama became president, they had one goal, shift America into a communist country to the point that the land I lived through as a child is unrecognizable. I witnessed it in real time and witnessed the shift happen. Trump on the other hand said 'fuck this' and made America feel like America again. I remember waking up the morning after the election 1.) Hungover as fuck on the floor in my frat house hallway because of the party the night before, and 2.) with a sense of optimism I had not felt since I was 10 years old.
I was born in the same year as you u/ChrisSuperDude.
My mental health is going to go south if the Democrats win in November. This chance at getting our country back is really one of the few things that help me whenever I get depressed (my life is a lot better than it used to be but it still flares up).
Thing is....Trump will have nothing to lose, either. Wouldn''t have to worry about another election. He can go FULL TRUMP!
We'd like to win the next one too. The only way we can do everything we want to do is make sure their party is crushed finer than flour.
So they want George Zimmerman on every corner? Lol
I sure do.
That's the biggest thing about the "abolish the police" movement. If they were also calling for the complete and utter abolition of gun laws as well as mandatory stand your ground laws then maybe I'd take them a little more seriously, because, while as stupid as abolishing the police is, at least that is a solution that makes sense.
They probably do so that they can throw more gun owners in jail if they defend themselves
The Left wants to monopolize the use of force for themselves. This is all an effort to remove public policing for privatization of the use of force.
Thats why they want to get rid of 2A. When the only people that have guns will be the government and those who are connected to government, we have a problem on our hands.
HEY-- you know that 150 million people were killed by gun violence last year alone! So come on man, gimmie a break. You cannot go into a 7-11 or a Dunkin' Donuts without running into an armed Indian. That's the problem with.. with the thing, you know.. it's what we're facing every day in our great country of Canada. PERIOD. We need to change this culture, and keep shooting at it and shooting at it and shooting it down.
We hold these truths to be self-evident and we choose truth over facts! So get your words straight Jack. You're too old to vote for me. If you wanna challenge me let's go outside and do some push-ups man, go running, whatever you like, boom boom boom, Corn Pop was a bad dude. Used pomade in his hair and had a big chain. So I walked out to my car, get the knife, used to let it sit out in the rain barrel.. and, well.. come on man. I love kids jumping on my lap. My times up.
Look fat, here's the deal. PERIOD.
I am frothing at the mouth in anticipation of the debates between Joe and Don.
Don't get your hopes up. The only political gatherings allowed are hosted by Black Lives Matter.
"listen fat."
"mr biden thats rosie O'Donnell"
"oh shes fake news"
"look corn pop odonnel. youre stomach looks like malarkey"
"mr biden thats not appropriate. but since you said it the party has decided it IS appropriate and any american who likes rosie O'Donnell will be jailed for thoughtcrime"
"listen. im president. and your not"
"lol do you feel in charge? mr soros has a sniper rifle trained on you at this very second. and we cut to commercial""
whistle whistle!
"mr biden wear did u get a whistle?"
"shut up! get out of the pool!""
"godangit"
"listen folks-"
"YOU SHUT THE FUCK UP! WERE THE MODERATORS HERE AND WE GAVE BIDEN THE QUESTIONS EARLY AND HE BLEW IT!! STUPID DRUMPHH"
You forgot "I love black children, I know all about roaches." That one's a real dousey even for gaff-a-matic Biden.
Brevity intensifies
I fired two shotgun blasts in the air to solute it.
I really like the folks, folks.
is your wife a doctor?
👏
But did he really say that quote about Canada?
No, but it was referencing when he said that he loves Vermont when he was in New Hampshire.
that's why you should never gave to them. you wouldn't cave to a spoiled would you? you would tell them no. you tell them this is the way it's going to be for your own go
I'll fuckin give you something to cry about
that's why they're so mad. after eight years of mommy Obama letting them do whatever they want Daddy Trump came in and spank themm
Mommy Obama? EUUUUUUUUUGH.
Truth
Mistake. I am with guys like Black Pilled on this. We need someone to man up and explain why statistically there is no systemic racism with regards to police. We can PROVE this - and its trivial.
All this does is weaken the police. Sure I am pissed off at the cops for arresting regular folks for working. But this sounds the wrong message to Antifa.
We have to stop treating blacks like its the end of the world if we make them angry. This might get downvotes but between bending to Fauci and his ilk and bending to actual thugs. This has been a weak year for Trump.
He needs to bring Bannon back. We need guys with fight - not Jared Kushner..
Said the same thing 12 hours earlier and was downvoted into oblivion. Sometimes even pedes voluntarily let the wool be pulled over their eyes. Trump shouldn’t placate, kowtow or lift one pen to sign shit to appease these fucks and that’s what it is, appeasement. You give them an inch, they want 20 miles. Give them 20 miles, they’ll want it all. Pandering for black votes is ridiculous. They aren’t going to vote for Trump even if he gave them their precious reparations. Tell them to eat a bag of shit, kickstart the rallies, get the base fired up again and take this thing home. The silent majority has been effectively muzzled.
It's more then a political mistake - its a bad for our country.
The left doesn't believe in incentives - but the right should. If you learn that by throwing a temper tantrum you get what you want.. You will throw more temper tantrums.
BLM is the group that openly chanted about burning police alive - and now they have raised BILLIONS of dollars for their cause. Not one fucking Senate/House guy can come out and say - hey those guys want to burn police alive - maybe we shouldn't give money to them.
The left I get - it's the right that's pissing me off. Can't take a stand against burning people alive?!
Statistics don't convince nor persuade anyone except accountants. People are persuaded by stories and they are persuaded by visual stories most. That's why the Floyd story blew up into the biggest divider in our generation. Because there was 8:46 of visual emotionally painful story that ripped people into pieces and they felt they either needed revenge or they needed forgiveness--anything to find relief after sitting through what appears to be a huge injustice on its surface.
No one said, oh look, stats on police shootings say everything is fine. That won't even register because of the apparently obvious story of racism they saw with their own eyes.
Fuck them.
We don't bow to the lowest common denominator. If you can't understand basic stats then get fucking locked up when you riot over nothing. Good fucking riddance.
It's time to stop coddling the weak, the dumb, the lazy. Life needs to have consequences again. Don't abolish the police, abolish the safety nets and welfare. Let the productive attend solely to the advancement of society, and stop wasting their efforts lifting up those who can't even support themselves. Allow the dregs die off as they screen impotently into the night, we gain nothing trying to save then from themselves.
Where we are now is a result of creating a consequence free society where those incompatible with a peaceful advanced society are allowed to proliferate.
This. We literally meme’d someone into the office of the President!
Yes this is probably the worst move he could have made honestly.
He doesn't mention systemic racism or similar terms in this EO (I could be wrong and I'll read it again) and anything leashing the power of the states enforcement am (within reason) is okay by me. The police have a problem with abusing their power, and its largely the union.
BLM activists don't have any use for achieving any set goals. It's the existence of some issue that they use to make money. Just like there is no money in a cure for cancer, it's repeat business that BLM wants.
exactly. there is nothing they won't flip flop on and nothing they won't lie about to seize power. As Dwight D Eisenhower said. when you have a party that is not founded in advancing a cars or doing what is right then you do not have a political party.. you have a conspiracy to seize power
That is a massive quote
bigly
You expected a different outcome? 🤣
it's time to recognize that your strategy of talking to left-wingers is not working. And here's why..
when you talk to left-wingers and left-wing voters you talk to them as if they're being lied to. when the reality is they're the ones doing the lying.
you think the average Democrat voter isn't in on it? you think they don't know that they're full of shit? They know that they're full of shit. They also know that they have to say and lie about a lot of things in order to get what they wantt
Those "default" subs are so toxic to anything that isn't lockstep leftist.
Its beyond Reddit. It's in the Software Industry, Big Tech, Healthcare and now Retail.
we need to regulate them enforce them to allow other types of politics
No, we need to legally ruin them. Replace the current Internet with a new one that doesn't have social justice warriors controlling platforms.
"i domt like the way the entire system is set up! do im gonna take a handful of people and start a NEW multi billion dollar system! and me and my friends are gonna put the old one out of business because a few hundred of us is more than enough to financially ruin Everything that already exists!"
why dont you just redraw the borders of the usa while youre at it?
and rewrite the Constitution and replace every member of govt?
sometimes I wonder if the far-right free-market worshippers even live in anything resembling reality? you think that you're just going to replace every single company in the world with a "conservative version"
and that somehow you and a few hundred other radical extremists are going to be enough to completely bankrupt every single multinational billion dollar company LOL. yeah I'm sure you and your close friends are more than enough to completely replace Facebook and I'm sure all 1.5 billion Facebook users are going to go to your right wing Facebook just because it exists. you know they're all fed up with the left-wing stuff. since every single person in the world is a hardcore Trump supporter. I mean they must be! every one of your close friends is a hardcore Trump supporter so clearly every single person in the world must be!
you live in an alternate reality with alternate facts. you don't understand how the real world works because you don't live in the real world. you live in this carefully curated bubble you made for yourself only surrounded by people who agree with you..
you also don't understand how the economy works. like a petulant child do you want to make an entirely new economy just for conservatives and you think that somehow the solution..
and we know you didn't come up with it. That idea was put in your head by corporatist Libertarians who worship the free market and the almighty dollar. Libertarians who don't have a problem with Facebook anyway because Facebook is a corporation and Libertarians are the puppets of corporations..
replace the whole internet LOL. what a ridiculous thing to say
only an idiot would think that would work. but I don't think you actually want to sell the problem. I think you just want a small platform to circle jerk with a small handful of people who agree with you. you don't really care what the rest of the world is doing you don't really care who's running the country you just want a small website where you can circle jerk and complain with a small handful of people who agree with you..
we need to regulate these companies. you don't want to regulate these companies because you have been train by decades of libertarian propaganda to worship the almighty dollar and put corporations before people. On the hierarchy of things you care about you have been trained to put the interests of corporations above the interests of anybody else..
and so you would never support regulating a corporation because you're trained to shill for corporations
that's why you proposed things that wouldn't work. The goal is to help corporations make money. not help Americans live life..
Libertarians have an entirely different set of goals than the average American. Libertarians goals are to make rich people as comfortable as possible and as rich as possible. They don't care what has to happen to make that occur. Libertarians are the henchmen of rich people.
that's why you hate the government. Because of government is generally controlled and voted for by poor people. since the majority of people in America are poor the government generally gets voted for by mostly poor people. Rich people have very little say overall compared to the votes of poor people. which is why you're very against the government passing laws. Because when the government passes laws that innocence is poor people passing laws. And your ideology is meant to worship the rich. so the last thing you want is a democracy where the country is run by the poor..
that's why you want to take away power from the government. Because the government is the people. And you want to take away power from the people and give it to a bunch of big corporations. you would much rather have the country be run by Goldman Sachs then a democratically elected president..
you would much rather have Facebook censor Free speech then the government protect it..
you've been trained to hate all things government and worship all things corporate..
to be against even good things that the government does and support even bad things that corporations do
and you have been trained that this mythical free-market is the answer. basically if you pray to the almighty dollar it will swoop down and save you loll
even though you have absolutely zero historical examples of the free market replacing corrupt corporations or doing anything good really.
there's multiple examples of the free market creating bad things the free market created censorship the free market created corruption the free market created racism and the free market created fake news. And you're trained to think that the free market is going to fix the problems it created? The free market is a lie. it's a lie told you by corporations who want you to allow them to do whatever they want..
telling you that voting with your dollar is somehow better than voting with your vote LOL
it's because they don't want you to vote on the government they want you to let them do whatever they choose. And what better way to do that than convince you that there's this magical thing that if you just let corporations do whatever they want unrestricted they will decide to do what's best for you..
out of the kindness of their heart or something. it's time to regulate Facebook and it's time to ignore the people that don't want to
those people got us into this mess. those people have destroyed the economy multiple times with their libertarian free-market bullshit..
and they are a group of extremists that don't really exist anywhere except the Internet
Bro, I work in this industry and have for over 20 years. Also it's not a few hundred people with this idea.
Here is the is situation. We have communication and security risks thanks to those very companies selling out to China. They have imported H1B1 visa of people who hate America. They've riddled our digital infrastructure. Obama handed off management of the Internet before leaving. We have platform tribalism and active psy-ops being played out daily. Our history is rewritten daily along with definitions. There is no integrity and we have generations coming up through the digital age.
In addition to the above, we have corporate and foreign money in politics - that's not going away
We don't have term limits - not going away.
We have fake news media - not going away.
We have systematic discrimination in these industries to prevent diverse opinions from helping shape the digital future.
We start a business and they falsely label us as racist and cut off our revenue. As a free enterprise they have the right to destroy US. What alternatives do we have? Very little because the complexity of engines we depend on are all sitting with Silicon Valley.
The design of the current Internet and those components that fuel experience and information and the laws that protect them require politicians that are paid off by the enemy.
Our only hope of saving the future is creating innovative alternatives. It's the American Way!
This happens in every fucking industry so don't give me shit and be condescending towards me. You position my idea as some simpleton use case. It's not and our country could use it's own secondary system. Our country could be devastated if we lost or had disruption with the 1 we have.
It's pervasive across the entire site. Saw the past week in /gifs it was full of democrat, pro Obama propaganda "herp derp, Obama can drink water, Obama can walk down some stairs".
“O-o-o-o-b-b-b-b-bama okie doke”
President Trump could come out and completely abolish the police, say that America will now be a fully communist nation, that all conservatives are persona non grata, destroy the Bill of Rights, etc., and the left would still hate it and turn against him and argue the other side.
Shit, maybe he should do that in a 4d chess move.
if Trump came out in favor of universal healthcare you'd have the left arguing for free marketss
Amen
Reddit is mostly made up of non-Americans.
So true—,as is most of decisive rhetoric— please ignore most of the crap because most is probably generated for Chinese bot centers
Some of the ignorance there is amazing. European fags who may have been to Disneyland or NYC once on vacation somehow claim to understand what life is like in Sheboygan or Laramie.
Whatever Trump does, he is a priori racist and evil in the eyes of liberals, so they won't care. You cannot disprove their hypothesis with facts or reason.
A hypothesis that cannot be disproved with facts or reason is unscientific.
So much for the "party of science"
we only win if we can fully eliminate them. it's like a virus. If even one germ remains it will simply spread all over again..
ERRRMAAAAAHHHHHGAEERRRRG THATS NOT REAL REFORM DRUMPF IS GOING TO GIVE THEM MORE MONEY, GUNS AND TRAINING TO KILL MORE BLACK PEOPLE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Reminder that these people are NOT 🚫 liberals, they are LEFTISTS ☭, there is a HUGE🙌 difference.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlIjMJBSnRE
Another good video on why you shouldn't enable leftist doublespeak
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-58HoTHWQk
This comes up a lot. But here is the thing - lots of liberals say and do the same things as leftists. They have become indistinguishable. The remaining liberals are either libertarians or conservatives.
Sorry Prager U.. That's just how it is.
yeah a lot of right-wingers tend to focus on words way too much. words that mean whatever you want them to mean. They mean whatever people use them as. once upon a Time the word gaming meant happy. but if you say the word gay you're probably not talking about happy..
words mean whatever they mean well how people use them. And their meanings can change over time. you can try to redefine liberal to claim that conservatives are liberals but that's stupid and nobody's buying it. The people that call themselves Liberals are the fascist left-wingers. That's what liberal is. stop trying to redefine terms to fit whatever you want things to meann
No, just because a leftist calls himself a liberal, doesn't magically make it so.
https://wichitaliberty.org/liberty/classical-liberalism-values-liberty-the-individual-and-civil-society/
Yep, Jefferson was a liberal. Joy Behar is a leftist...and an idiot.
No True Scotsman. Group of people claim to be Liberals - they do X Y Z. You claim they are not "real" liberals.
But we are at the point where there is no one that claims to be a liberal in this country that pushes those values. They might say something like "they used to call me a liberal".
My parents are both "liberals" in their mind. In reality they have moved very far left like all "liberals." Again all the people that were liberals have joined the right or a libertarian.
You can point to book definitions - but we all know this is true. Words change meaning and liberal means leftist at this point. It generally is a leftist of the useful idiot variety. Someone who doesn't understand communism - someone that doesn't understand the issues with the welfare state. Someone who doesn't understand the Constitution.
yeah a lot of right-wingers tend to focus on words way too much. words that mean whatever you want them to mean. They mean whatever people use them as. once upon a Time the word gaming meant happy. but if you say the word gay you're probably not talking about happy..
words mean whatever they mean well how people use them. And their meanings can change over time. you can try to redefine liberal to claim that conservatives are liberals but that's stupid and nobody's buying it. The people that call themselves Liberals are the fascist left-wingers. That's what liberal is. stop trying to redefine terms to fit whatever you want things to meann
The progressive left has tarnished the "liberal" moniker to the point that its poison to associate with it. Prefixing it with "classical" doesn't help.
re-defining words is their speciality.
And the individualism of libertarians is what makes arguments about sexual identity so ridiculous philosophically for libertarians to try to oppose. Best example of this is Jordan Peterson. He says he won't follow the law about transgender pronouns because it violates free speech, but then says he'll use the pronouns in a personal situation if the person asks politely. That's absolute nonsense. That's the conundrum of classical liberalism. It's still relativistic. It just asserts the One over the Many. It's still an ideology. Christianity resolves the conflict of the one and the many into a harmonious relationship. But secular Deism, which became secular atheism, which infuses classical liberalism, is the most prominent worldview in America now.
Well... they never wanted it. It was just a convenient excuse to sew discord and destruction.
We don't need reform, we need assholes to stop breaking the fucking law.
I read the order. I like the order. I think it's really pushing to address problems that exist in police departments, and prevent bad apples from jumping from one position to another instead of leaving law enforcement entirely.
Could more be done? Sure. But I haven't seen one single Democrat offering specific solutions.
If Trump wins in November, the first thing he better do is put Ivanka and Jared on a one way flight to NYC and forget their address. They’re awful and they’ve been fucking shit up for three years.
He should reform the swamp instead
Yep, affirmative action is a bitch.
Only non blacks that succeed are to be further disenfranchised.
So every black is to be further elevated (including already hyper successful Nigerians and akin).
How do the folks that are not part of the Globalist Black Supremacists play feel about this global mandate?
So you're Ridin' with Biden?
U funny - Dnc luv you long time ..😂 ( I got the satire- funny.)
G L O W
Name specifics.
Me neither, but this isn't a bill, correct?
who cares
I care. There's a big difference.
ok nerd
Lol. People who don't understand or don't care about the difference between a legislative bill and an executive order have no business commenting on either.
Lmao
Might as well be liberal with these arguments.
Haha yeah totally.
What was in the reforms anyway?
Thank you!
So there's just going to be s new data base??? what is it doing i don't really get it.
There's really not a whole lot the president can do to dictate how municipal-level policing is done.
I think the database is a good idea. If someone is a bad cop, it should be easy for other departments to see that they were fired for being a bad cop. At least then anyone who then hires the bad cop will know exactly what they're signing up for.
The White House release is a lot of words that say nothing but it's still nice to see a somewhat measured response.
sadly, its another municipal welfare program that won't ever end.
I love how "not good enough" is actually not even a tacit but a direct admission that the policy itself is in fact good.
Is that Pingu? Lol
It will be loosely quoted by another news agency and reposted with the title "too little too late". Front page /all by tomorrow morning.
My God you hit that on the head. If Orange Man Likes, We the NPC’s Hate!!!! Liberal are seriously mentally challenged. Trust me I’m from Biden’s state.
Just goes to show youre a cuck if you give in to their demands. They want comolete subservience, not equality or national dialog.
If these asshats had been participating in local elections and contacting their representatives ahead of...oh...I dunno...the pandemic they’d be able to address these issues the right way. The executive doesn’t run the show on local policing. I don’t think we want the executive to, either.
😂 😂 😂 😂
This EO isn't for the left. This EO is for the normies who are scared and confused.
Daddy took action and that should be a good start to start soothing worries.
I'm not sure where I stand on chokeholds; I know from experience how dangerous and even deadly they can be. But I also know how effective they are. I guess the fact that officers can still use them in life-threatening situations doesn't affect them THAT much, since situations that require that kind of hold would automatically be life-threatening?
Big laugh
Holy shit!!!! How is that accurate? Proof r/politics is hidden by bots.
UH HE OBVIOUSLY DID IT BECAUSE OF NANCY PELOSI YOU STUPID FUCK
NO YOU FUCKING DRUMPHTARD HE DID IT BECAUSE PUTIN TOLD HIM TO
THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES IS CLEARLY A RUSDIAN SLEEPER AGENT
ALSO WHO NEEDS TO SEE OBAMAS BIRTH CERTIFICATE? WHO CARES THAT THERES INCONSISTENCIES
they don't want "reform," they want no police at all.
Chilly willy the penguin fell on some hard times
ToO LiTtLe ToO LaTe
These people are not liberals. They’re Marxists.
ok. u go on and obsess over words
have fun
We didn't need police reform, we gave it to them anyway, now they don't want it. Honk.
He circumvented the need for a national police force. All this is put back on local PDs and independent organizations. I believe that there are monetary incentives for good officers as well, not sure where I saw that though. The discussion of nationalizing or privatizing police is over, at least for now.
Lolollllololllllllllll so true
I kid you not there are actually posts and Tweets claiming Trump is only doing this to trick black people because he's desperate for votes. These people are the walking stereotype of a pot calling kettles... you know.
Teddy Roosevelt was right to break up corporate monopolies. These aren't purely private businesses. They get a charter from the government that protects against liabilities. If you own a house or sole proprietorship you can be sued for every last dime but these corporations get immunity while skirting our taxes.
PINGU!