I'm no Delta Operator Physicist Ninja, but I'm pretty sure 9mm does more "damage" than a knife. Ya'll have to ask more questions when confronted with stats. Officers probably have higher survivability from gunshots due to things like wearing vests and also due to difficulty of shooting pistols accurately, which is largely what officers get shot at with. Knives on the other hand get used in extreme close range so there are less misses, more throat hits probably.
Stats are similar for normal people, too. The reason knife wounds are more lethal is they are larger, so cause faster bleeding. The number one reason people die from either is blood loss, if medical help doesn't arrive before you run out of blood, you die. Pistol wounds are thin lines, and can often be plugged up with a finger or two to reduce bleeding. Knife wounds are much larger, and much more difficult to slow down the bleeding of.
A knife can do more damage in 2 seconds with good hits than most people would think possible. A high quality blade and a few weeks of training can be terrifyingly deadly.
I can see what you're saying too. I'm just sharing a one-off opinion. There's not enough data in front of me to conclude that knife attacks are more or less dangerous that gun fire.
For instance, a fmg round would definitely cause less damage than a hollowpoint
Hollowpoints only expand like 25% of the time. Maybe 20%? I forget now. I think the clothing wads up in the tip and prevents the expansion, so about 80% of the time the hollowpoint is just an FMJ anyways. I don't have the study link. There's probably an encyclopedia of arguments back and forth about it, knowing my fellow gun owners.
Shot placement is what really matters. Heart, lungs, head.
I worked at the Cabela's store in Glendale, AZ about 10 years ago and we took several brands in different pistol calibers, tested them, and framed the results. Remington Golden Sabers were also pretty reliable, as were Federal Hydro-Shocks.
Right. Ballistics are complex for sure. I've always found it interesting (and I don't currently have any sources and willing to accept that I'm wrong), that a .22lr can cause a lot of damage because it apparently has the tendency to hits your bones and can follow them through your body, causing more damage.
Fuck that, it's why I'm a guy that has a shot gun with a chamber full of rotation
00 buckshot, slug, 00 buckshot, slug, and so on.
Pepper, maybe death, and certain death 12 guage slug for follow up...maybe clean up, or maybe the next dumb ass in line next in line.
Bright light on front with strobe function to disorient.
I'm no Delta Operator Physicist Ninja, but I'm pretty sure 9mm does more "damage" than a knife. Ya'll have to ask more questions when confronted with stats. Officers probably have higher survivability from gunshots due to things like wearing vests and also due to difficulty of shooting pistols accurately, which is largely what officers get shot at with. Knives on the other hand get used in extreme close range so there are less misses, more throat hits probably.
Stats are similar for normal people, too. The reason knife wounds are more lethal is they are larger, so cause faster bleeding. The number one reason people die from either is blood loss, if medical help doesn't arrive before you run out of blood, you die. Pistol wounds are thin lines, and can often be plugged up with a finger or two to reduce bleeding. Knife wounds are much larger, and much more difficult to slow down the bleeding of.
This is the correct answer. Until enough blood drains out to cause loss of consciousness, the attacker could keep coming for 4-5 minutes.
So with firearms, you need enough rounds to increase blood loss and faster unconsciousness.
The remedy to this is shot placement.
CNS and mobility shots shut the body down instantly.
Either you get one in the brainpan and it's game over, or a heart hit, or the hip girdle. If they can't walk they can't chase.
Heads and hips, kids.
See the Mozambique drill and the zipper drill.
A knife can do more damage in 2 seconds with good hits than most people would think possible. A high quality blade and a few weeks of training can be terrifyingly deadly.
While you chased girls and partied, I studied the blade.
This is The Way.
I can see what you're saying too. I'm just sharing a one-off opinion. There's not enough data in front of me to conclude that knife attacks are more or less dangerous that gun fire.
For instance, a fmg round would definitely cause less damage than a hollowpoint
Hollowpoints only expand like 25% of the time. Maybe 20%? I forget now. I think the clothing wads up in the tip and prevents the expansion, so about 80% of the time the hollowpoint is just an FMJ anyways. I don't have the study link. There's probably an encyclopedia of arguments back and forth about it, knowing my fellow gun owners.
Shot placement is what really matters. Heart, lungs, head.
115gr 9mm is what I understand to be the better choice for HP. As well as quality ammo, as you say.
I worked at the Cabela's store in Glendale, AZ about 10 years ago and we took several brands in different pistol calibers, tested them, and framed the results. Remington Golden Sabers were also pretty reliable, as were Federal Hydro-Shocks.
Right. Ballistics are complex for sure. I've always found it interesting (and I don't currently have any sources and willing to accept that I'm wrong), that a .22lr can cause a lot of damage because it apparently has the tendency to hits your bones and can follow them through your body, causing more damage.
Hits your arm, comes out your shoulder or elbow.
That's some grade A gunshop talk right there. Firearms community is a place full of magical wonders.
Fuck that, it's why I'm a guy that has a shot gun with a chamber full of rotation 00 buckshot, slug, 00 buckshot, slug, and so on. Pepper, maybe death, and certain death 12 guage slug for follow up...maybe clean up, or maybe the next dumb ass in line next in line. Bright light on front with strobe function to disorient.
It's not what he was saying. read it again, slowly.
Here, read this at your leisure: don't be a fag
Says the cry baby with zero reading comprehension. Aww poor baby.