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NotRealDemSocialism 49 points ago +49 / -0

Unpopular opinion: It doesn't matter if he had a knife or not.

You put your hands on someone, refuse to let them go, try and surround then with multiple people, deadly force is absolutely warranted.

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SupremeSpez 25 points ago +25 / -0

Agreed. Self defense needs to make a yuge comeback in our society. None of this nannying bullshit on how you get to defend your life and property. A well armed society is a polite society.

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Italians_Invented_2A 3 points ago +5 / -2

Reminder to avoid pedes getting into trouble: lethal force is never justified to defend property.

(A theoretical exception only in Texas but there's so many tests that it practically doesn't exist)

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I_Used_to_be_me 5 points ago +5 / -0

Where I'm at, stand your ground/castle doctrine laws are pretty solid, and you can defend life and property in pretty much all expected scenarios:

New Hampshire law allows the use of deadly force against another person in the following situations:

When a person is about to use deadly force against you or someone else;

If a person is likely to use unlawful force while committing a burglary;

If a person is in the process of committing a kidnapping or forcible sex act;

If a person is likely to use unlawful force while committing a felony against someone in their own home or on the surrounding property.

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Italians_Invented_2A 1 point ago +1 / -0

That looks good, but what I said still stands. You can't use deadly force to defend property.

What you quoted means that if someone breaks into your house it's treated as a potential threat to your life, like I discussed in my other response.

But if you're in your house and someone is stealing your car outside, you can't go out shooting.

You can, however, go out to confront them and if they attack you then shoot (which is where stand your ground saves your ass)

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Danny1878 1 point ago +1 / -0

Can you shoot the burglar in the leg?

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Italians_Invented_2A 3 points ago +3 / -0

Oh no, shooting in the leg is still deadly force.

But you said burglar. That's different. If someone breaks into your house in the middle of the night your claim to self defense is that you were protecting your life, not your property. If you acknowledge that you were only afraid he was going to steal you're going to jail.

In Italy we had this fucking problem because people were shooting at burglars and left wing activist judges didn't recognize that they were defending their lives. Apparently according to SJW judges you had to have a knife in your chest before you could assume they were there to harm you.

It got so bad that the based government we had for a few months passed a law that forced judges to interpret any house invasion as a threat to the life of the occupants. That means now an Italian home owner can scream "mamma mia!" and blast the intruder.

So you really must understand how things work in your area.

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BIDENSACPADDICT 0 points ago +1 / -1

One of the freaks had a knife. Thats 100% justified self defense.