hollow points my friend, gotta use hydro-shocks goes in the size of a pea blows out the back the size of a quarter. certain types fragment leaving little shards of sharp copper inside the body for maximum damage.
For HD, I prefer a good .223/5.56 defensive load. Specifically Federal Tactical Bonded. Speer .223 Gold Dot are another excellent choice as well.
The terminal performance is much much better than any pistol cal, less risk of over penetration, and you get the control of a rifle, more ammo, and faster follow up shots.
Really ... “hydro-shocks”? Fragments for “maximum damage”? Are you sure you know which end of the gun is the dangerous one?
(Federal Hydro-Shok is a classic design, by which I mean dated; and as current design to pass FBI test protocol emphasizes penetration first, then expansion and weight retention, boutique fragmenting designs are Right Out).
From what I read there really isn't an advantage in hollow point.
Bullet becoming wider has the drawback of lower penetration.
For example if the attacker has his arms in front of his torso, an hollow point might not be able to go through his arm and still hit the torso with enough force left.
As a former armed hospital security officer, they addressed this type of thing in class. Any modifications to the round will be found during investigation. If you fired a modified round at a bad guy that results in injury or death, you will be held criminally and civilly liable for damages. Use factory ammo or ammo authorized by your site/client only, your lawyer will thank you.
Which is insane reasoning. If you're justified in killing the attacker, you're still justified if you modified your bullets to make his death more likely. The laws need to change.
From what I read there really isn't an advantage in hollow point.
That's horribly incorrect.
Bullet becoming wider has the drawback of lower penetration.
That's perhaps the #1 reason to carry hollow points for self defense reasons, reducing the risk of overpenetration. Do you even physics, bro?
The alternative is firing a solid ball at an attacker, and that ball passing right through the target and into other people, or in a home defense situation, that solid ball passing right through the target and punching through several walls and potentially into other dwellings.
I think you might have been thinking of semi-wadcutters rather than hollow points. Wadcutters are specially designed for shooting paper targets, as the blunt shape of them cuts out perfect circles in the target. Semi-wadcutters are a kind of hybrid between the wadcutter and a hollow point round, an attempt to make an all-purpose round, but there have been incidents of semi-wadcutters getting lodged in the arm, and even losing most of its stopping power when going through heavy clothing.
Of course, this also depends heavily on the bullet design... there are some semi-wadcutters that are quite effective, but some have all the effectiveness of a rubber bullet.
hollow points my friend, gotta use hydro-shocks goes in the size of a pea blows out the back the size of a quarter. certain types fragment leaving little shards of sharp copper inside the body for maximum damage.
Use pinky size bullets to create thumb sized holes.
heres all the tears for a shot antifa terrorist:
your eyes actually get dryer ;)
Wow, that's a not of tears!
Depends on the cartridge size. 9mm sure, but when you start getting into the pocket pistol calibers, FMJ is sometimes better
22 TCM my friend
Which pistol shoots that? Not the most common caliber
RIA 1911 A2 https://armscor.com/firearms/ria/tcm-series/
Paul Harrell (22tcm vs 9mm): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGtjOOf1dxA
RIA 1911 is not very reliable as demonstrated by Paul Harrell, but if another handgun ever spec'd for it I'd buy it in a heart beat.
Federal HST or Speer Gold Dot is what you seek. Hydro Shok are older technology and less consistent. Still better than FMJ though.
Speer Gold Dot in 9mm is the perfect HD round.
For HD, I prefer a good .223/5.56 defensive load. Specifically Federal Tactical Bonded. Speer .223 Gold Dot are another excellent choice as well.
The terminal performance is much much better than any pistol cal, less risk of over penetration, and you get the control of a rifle, more ammo, and faster follow up shots.
Really ... “hydro-shocks”? Fragments for “maximum damage”? Are you sure you know which end of the gun is the dangerous one?
(Federal Hydro-Shok is a classic design, by which I mean dated; and as current design to pass FBI test protocol emphasizes penetration first, then expansion and weight retention, boutique fragmenting designs are Right Out).
I like to know that if I blast someone they are going to know it and its going to hurt as much as possible.
From what I read there really isn't an advantage in hollow point. Bullet becoming wider has the drawback of lower penetration.
For example if the attacker has his arms in front of his torso, an hollow point might not be able to go through his arm and still hit the torso with enough force left.
EDIT: thank you for correcting me, I was wrong.
I've heard of people carving crosses on hpbbullets so it will break off into 4 fragments after initial penetration
As a former armed hospital security officer, they addressed this type of thing in class. Any modifications to the round will be found during investigation. If you fired a modified round at a bad guy that results in injury or death, you will be held criminally and civilly liable for damages. Use factory ammo or ammo authorized by your site/client only, your lawyer will thank you.
Don't forget hand loads. Don't use bullets you've reloaded yourself as well. Like you said just use store bought unmodified in any way bullets.
Which is insane reasoning. If you're justified in killing the attacker, you're still justified if you modified your bullets to make his death more likely. The laws need to change.
I saw this demonstrated using a knife and hammer.
That's horribly incorrect.
That's perhaps the #1 reason to carry hollow points for self defense reasons, reducing the risk of overpenetration. Do you even physics, bro?
The alternative is firing a solid ball at an attacker, and that ball passing right through the target and into other people, or in a home defense situation, that solid ball passing right through the target and punching through several walls and potentially into other dwellings.
Ok fine. I just did some research and I was wrong. HP penetrate deep enough and FMJ have great risk of overpenetration.
Load some of each. Not a problem.
Of course, we're talking academically here.
It's proven that the only thing that really matters is shot placement.
I think you might have been thinking of semi-wadcutters rather than hollow points. Wadcutters are specially designed for shooting paper targets, as the blunt shape of them cuts out perfect circles in the target. Semi-wadcutters are a kind of hybrid between the wadcutter and a hollow point round, an attempt to make an all-purpose round, but there have been incidents of semi-wadcutters getting lodged in the arm, and even losing most of its stopping power when going through heavy clothing.
Of course, this also depends heavily on the bullet design... there are some semi-wadcutters that are quite effective, but some have all the effectiveness of a rubber bullet.