Even if it's ruled as justified (which I agree it was!), can you image the civil suits? That is one of the most effed up things about our justice system, imo
If he was lawfully carrying, and gets knocked out by these thugs who would have likely robbed him then taken his gun and shot him with him with it. If he is incapacitated and was attempting to retreat and was overwhelmed its Totally justified.
Not sure if hes being a cuck or not, but he might be right. I feel scared for the dude that shot. Its BLM ass kissing month, not saying I wouldn't shoot too, 100% self defence
Definitely not being a cuck. If you've been through any self defense course you know to weigh the options. Yes it was fast, yes he was in danger but he did shoot the guy in the back. Where I am, in Texas the shooter will be safe. Not sure of other states.
One of 3 guys, looks like he got hit in the head hard, turned and started shooting. I would do the same. I'd like to think I'd hit on the first shot or two, in my imagination. In my imagination, I'm much better with a handgun than I really am, or would be under pressure.
He did not start out by shooting the man in the back. The assailant was facing him and apparently engaged in attack when the firearm was drawn and the victim started shooting. The man turns away to retreat after the shooting starts.
Doesn't matter. If you are getting the shit kicked out of you, it doesn't matter what objects your assailants are holding. You have a right at that moment to use whatever weapon you have to stop it.
He definitely had glasses, you can see them when he falls, also earlier in his right hand at 3:20 in the video. That being said they switched to his left hand before he fell, and he also had something in his right hand. That being said the person hit someone with a skateboard so I don't care if they had a knife - that's deadly force.
Cant say its rhe one. You can see the dude in the background take a second knife from someone being arrested and throwing it on the ground near blue shirt guy. Looks like weapons they are taking from the armed dudes.
Yeah i agree.
Ive heard local politician's speaking out against the self defense. If they try to charge him hopefully alot of people come out for him.
The number of shootings during these protests makes me think people have had it and we are on the verge of a few conflicts peppered across the country.
Nine times out of 10, when I attack and ground and pound people I always hold my fragile trendy sunglasses in my left hand. That's just how I roll. Because fashion...
and then when I am done they magically appear completely intact on the pavement.
Deporting is our duty as residents in oppressed Kekistani autonomous region but sometimes it's funnier to let them wiggle around a bit before we put them out
Agreed. It doesnt matter if it was a knife(possible) or a skateboard(confirmed), the simple group of people attacking you is grounds for deadly force, certainly in my state it is.
The only way this shooting isn't justified is if something proves that he created the circumstances around the shooting.
I'm sorry, I was adding to what you quoted from u/TippyTop1987.
Even IF he were to have stirred up the pot in an earlier encounter, the fact his attackers pursued him and then instigated another conflict, they would still be in the wrong and likely viewed to have created a separate incident, for which they should be held responsible as the aggressors.
I agree. I am more speaking to, for example, if someone walked into a crowd and randomly attacked someone and the crowd gave pursuit and attacked back, you lose the ability to claim self defense. Case law shows that if you are the initial aggressor(which this guy doesn't appear to be) then you lose your ability to argue it was self defense in most cases.
That is certainly the angle that the state is going to pursue, they will claim he was the aggressor in an attempt to block his self defense strategy. I think it was a good shoot but the more proactive among us, when it comes to self defense, would have been smarter and never injected ourselves into that scenario willingly.
OP is a community gem, thank you. It's not a knife but if a mob yelling "we are going to kill you" and they attack you and you get bashed in the dome with a improvised weapon (skateboard.) Then they getting turned to swiss cheese before I go down 100%.
Probably just means this is the next false flag FAKE NEWS outrage cycle.
Remember: the corporate media is working with the Democrat Party (and China) on staging stories now. I would think that we are dealing with such control freaks that they probably already have every news cycle already worked out from now until the election.
So they know when each new outrage cycle is about to launch, and that’s probably when they send out their Chinese wage slaves with pre-written scripts to brigade here - and anywhere on the Internet where speech is free - with two competing arguments for the same planned event. Once they establish what the two arguments are, and force those two positions onto the minds of the people within the first few hours of the event, that is how they control the narrative. It isn’t just bias. It isn’t just faking stories. It is also pigeonholing the people into two conflicting opinions to limit and railroad dialogue.
Where are our lawyer pedes providing him free services? Where is this guys legal defense fund? The left funded all the bail for the riots, let's help this guy out here!
Skateboard man after dropping the skateboard whips out a butterfly knife in right hand and then is shot. You can see it opening in his right hand in the top frame.
Did you see the video of the punks throwing stuff at cars? They piss one guy off so much that he serves back around on them and jumps out with some Klingon looking blade strapped to his wrist.
Little bastards ran screaming for the police. I laughed for a solid 20 minutes.
Who gives a fuck if he was holding sunglasses in that moment, the moment just before that he was smashing a man's head with a skateboard. Fuck that kid, one less rat on the planet
Yes it is justified very easily. That person was part of the mob trying to kill him. Even if dumbshit didn't hit him in the head with a skateboard (he did) he was actively assisting the use of deadly force against an innocent person.
The shooting is 100% justified and it is obvious from the videos alone.
I don't care how Democrats sounded I've been consistent. When I saw the George Floyd video it was apparent the officer went too far but it seemed very unlikely to me that just the knee killed him.
Who gives a shit about the knife? Dude assaulted him with a deadly weapon - a skateboard.
I'd rather be in a 12x12 cell than a 6x3 plot underground.
There is no way deadly force is not justified in this situation.
Even if it's ruled as justified (which I agree it was!), can you image the civil suits? That is one of the most effed up things about our justice system, imo
I would have had no regret shooting in this situation
I'm an attorney not that it makes much of a difference
Edit: how nice that the attacker brought his mom https://youtu.be/UOWzDFse0u8?t=589
Where the F* was the guard when he was being attacked?
If he was lawfully carrying, and gets knocked out by these thugs who would have likely robbed him then taken his gun and shot him with him with it. If he is incapacitated and was attempting to retreat and was overwhelmed its Totally justified.
What’s it like being retarded?
Not sure if hes being a cuck or not, but he might be right. I feel scared for the dude that shot. Its BLM ass kissing month, not saying I wouldn't shoot too, 100% self defence
Definitely not being a cuck. If you've been through any self defense course you know to weigh the options. Yes it was fast, yes he was in danger but he did shoot the guy in the back. Where I am, in Texas the shooter will be safe. Not sure of other states.
One of 3 guys, looks like he got hit in the head hard, turned and started shooting. I would do the same. I'd like to think I'd hit on the first shot or two, in my imagination. In my imagination, I'm much better with a handgun than I really am, or would be under pressure.
He did not start out by shooting the man in the back. The assailant was facing him and apparently engaged in attack when the firearm was drawn and the victim started shooting. The man turns away to retreat after the shooting starts.
Yea. We’re in full blown clown world right now.
This sunglasses in his hand bullshit is the fake news.
Isolated frames clearly show a knife in his left hand and the sheath in his right. https://media.thedonald.win/thedonald/post/SnvqTqfu.jpeg
He had pulled his gun out as he was getting off the ground before being hit. If the guy did have a knife, he wasn't responding to it.
Still 100% self defense.
If your beating someone up why would you be holding glasses, looks like a knife to me
Doesn't matter. If you are getting the shit kicked out of you, it doesn't matter what objects your assailants are holding. You have a right at that moment to use whatever weapon you have to stop it.
He definitely had glasses, you can see them when he falls, also earlier in his right hand at 3:20 in the video. That being said they switched to his left hand before he fell, and he also had something in his right hand. That being said the person hit someone with a skateboard so I don't care if they had a knife - that's deadly force.
even if he didn't have a skateboard they had a mob of people, I'd shoot too after seeing people get the shit kicked out of them the past 2 weeks. https://thedonald.win/p/FgCa0BcO/a-massive-dump-of-video-clips-of/c/
Yeah, I can even tell from this picture. If you zoom in tight, you can actually see the clear round circle of the lens between his fingertips.
A knife was apparently recovered, and can be seen in an officers hand at 8:20.
https://youtu.be/UOWzDFse0u8?t=8m20s
That would probably be a knife taken from one of the people being detained.
Cant say its rhe one. You can see the dude in the background take a second knife from someone being arrested and throwing it on the ground near blue shirt guy. Looks like weapons they are taking from the armed dudes.
Still justified shoot imo.
I think it was justified, he had "legitimate fear for your safety or you felt a threat that would be present with a retreat".
https://newmexicocriminallaw.com/what-are-the-gun-laws-in-new-mexico/
Yeah i agree. Ive heard local politician's speaking out against the self defense. If they try to charge him hopefully alot of people come out for him.
The number of shootings during these protests makes me think people have had it and we are on the verge of a few conflicts peppered across the country.
Dumb question......why were some of the camo dudes arrested? They're law enforcement, no?
I'm guessing they were not law enforcement or military, just happened to be dressed similar.
Any idea what happened to the civil guard that's on the ground?
kek
Somebody's momma forgot to teach them not to bring a skateboard to a gun fight.
Nine times out of 10, when I attack and ground and pound people I always hold my fragile trendy sunglasses in my left hand. That's just how I roll. Because fashion...
and then when I am done they magically appear completely intact on the pavement.
We're being brigaded by fake Trump supporters
Yep. Saw a bunch of pussies whining about the wall yesterday. Comments oozed soy.
I have to agree, fucking skateboard like some primate breaking bones to get to the marrow? Tough shit he got holed ... play stupid games ...
Those are not sunglasses in the first picture. Are you blind?
OP is cuckposting. Deported.
That is comprehensive right there. End of story.
Deporting is our duty as residents in oppressed Kekistani autonomous region but sometimes it's funnier to let them wiggle around a bit before we put them out
Look again
https://media.thedonald.win/thedonald/post/vVatE5aL.png
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Agreed. It doesnt matter if it was a knife(possible) or a skateboard(confirmed), the simple group of people attacking you is grounds for deadly force, certainly in my state it is.
The only way this shooting isn't justified is if something proves that he created the circumstances around the shooting.
And even then, he'd already retreated down the block. He was being pursued by violent armed thugs.
Once he retreated, they became the aggressors.
More of these types of incidents are going to happen until the cops are allowed to do their job.
Excellent point!
Yes, it may very well be considered a separate event/conflict.
Shouldn't be. He attempted to break contact, they kept up the engagement.
I'm sorry, I was adding to what you quoted from u/TippyTop1987.
Even IF he were to have stirred up the pot in an earlier encounter, the fact his attackers pursued him and then instigated another conflict, they would still be in the wrong and likely viewed to have created a separate incident, for which they should be held responsible as the aggressors.
Ah, ok.
That's a good take.
I agree. I know it can get legally hairy when it comes to the events that led up to a shooting.
I agree. I am more speaking to, for example, if someone walked into a crowd and randomly attacked someone and the crowd gave pursuit and attacked back, you lose the ability to claim self defense. Case law shows that if you are the initial aggressor(which this guy doesn't appear to be) then you lose your ability to argue it was self defense in most cases.
That is certainly the angle that the state is going to pursue, they will claim he was the aggressor in an attempt to block his self defense strategy. I think it was a good shoot but the more proactive among us, when it comes to self defense, would have been smarter and never injected ourselves into that scenario willingly.
We aren't disagreeing here.
He clearly has something on both hands.
Looks like glasses in right hand, knife in left hand.
It's like he paused the game and cycled through his inventory in a panic or something.
Lol caught changing gear and died
Hold F to respawn
Shoulda quick saved before he started that fight.
kek
Kek
This. Blows my mind how retarded this is getting
https://imgur.com/a/hwaMifs
"Holding the knife makes you run faster. Am I the only one who knows this?!" - FPS Doug
Makes you streamlined.
Makes you streamlined.
OP is a community gem, thank you. It's not a knife but if a mob yelling "we are going to kill you" and they attack you and you get bashed in the dome with a improvised weapon (skateboard.) Then they getting turned to swiss cheese before I go down 100%.
yep seems shills have officially taken over this sub
the fact that there have even been as much concern trolling over this particular incident alone is telling enough
Probably just means this is the next false flag FAKE NEWS outrage cycle.
Remember: the corporate media is working with the Democrat Party (and China) on staging stories now. I would think that we are dealing with such control freaks that they probably already have every news cycle already worked out from now until the election.
So they know when each new outrage cycle is about to launch, and that’s probably when they send out their Chinese wage slaves with pre-written scripts to brigade here - and anywhere on the Internet where speech is free - with two competing arguments for the same planned event. Once they establish what the two arguments are, and force those two positions onto the minds of the people within the first few hours of the event, that is how they control the narrative. It isn’t just bias. It isn’t just faking stories. It is also pigeonholing the people into two conflicting opinions to limit and railroad dialogue.
https://imgur.com/a/hwaMifs
He should have kept his glasses on because his punches were way off the mark. He deserved every shot he took. Fuck em
100% The coward was clearly antifa or antifa-lite. I only hope the guy defending himself didn't scrape his knees.
Is THIS fake news?
Play stupid games win stupid prizes.
That punk's parents are going to enjoy paying his medical bills.
I see knife in left hand AND glasses in the right hand. First picture shows both.
https://imgur.com/a/hwaMifs
b.s.
Where are our lawyer pedes providing him free services? Where is this guys legal defense fund? The left funded all the bail for the riots, let's help this guy out here!
I bet you he'll think twice about swinging that skateboard next time.
He won't
Very clear in the first picture that his is holding a knife in his left hand and the sheath in his right.
https://imgur.com/a/hwaMifs
Skateboard man after dropping the skateboard whips out a butterfly knife in right hand and then is shot. You can see it opening in his right hand in the top frame.
Plus the camera man says "Were gonna kill you" or similar prior to the shooting.
I love it that the first thing these faggots call for is the police officers they so hate
Did you see the video of the punks throwing stuff at cars? They piss one guy off so much that he serves back around on them and jumps out with some Klingon looking blade strapped to his wrist.
Little bastards ran screaming for the police. I laughed for a solid 20 minutes.
All fun and games until someone gets shot
Looks like he has something in each hand.
Still a good kill
Who cares? They ALL had knives on them when detained, and they attacked and threatened the dude. This changes nothing.
Yeah but whats in his right hand?
apparently https://imgur.com/a/hwaMifs
Who gives a fuck if he was holding sunglasses in that moment, the moment just before that he was smashing a man's head with a skateboard. Fuck that kid, one less rat on the planet
posted from a 53 day old account...probably an ok pede.. but pretty new account
He already had his pistol drawn before he was clocked in the grape with the skateboard
Yes it is justified very easily. That person was part of the mob trying to kill him. Even if dumbshit didn't hit him in the head with a skateboard (he did) he was actively assisting the use of deadly force against an innocent person.
The shooting is 100% justified and it is obvious from the videos alone.
How so?
What is this evidence I'm supposedly missing?
The guy was plainly being attacked and his life was plainly in danger. He drew his weapon and defended his life. End of story.
I don't care how Democrats sounded I've been consistent. When I saw the George Floyd video it was apparent the officer went too far but it seemed very unlikely to me that just the knee killed him.