The moors were not Sub-Saharan Africans. This is another insane "we wuz kangz n shiet" lie to make black people feel better that when colonials arrived in the 1800s, they weren't even using the wheel.
Hispanic just means people who speak Spanish its not a racial classification but when people think of a Hispanic they usually think of some Brown Mestizo or South American Indian racially speaking.
The Moors occupied southern Europe, including Spain and Portugal, from 700AD to 1400AD.
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Therefor [sic], Blacks owe reparations to hispanics (people who speak Spanish) for the slavery committed by the Moors.
That is not the definition of Hispanic. At all. Firstly, there are two. Maybe even three. Its currently a term used politically as a cast net to capture a larger number of the minority brown vote. There's also residents of the island of Hispanola. But in this case Iberians can technically be called Hispanic because as early as 197 BC, it had been conquered by Rome and was the part of the Roman Empire known as HISPANIA. Nothing to do with language.
I am white with spanish name and my first language is spanish. In the US i’m “hispanic” / “latino”, everywhere else i’m just white. Part of the democrats plan to throw everyone in the same basket.
Unless you are in the US... where if you speak spanish you are a brown mexican no matter what. Thanks Obama?
There is a huge portion of “hispanic” that are direct descendant of southern european settlers in the Americas. But in the US you get labeled hispanic no mattwr what if you have a spanish name. It would be like calling english settlers descendants in the US a separate race from their european forefathers.
Carthaginians, descended from the Phoenicians (people with origins functionally from the area that is Lebanon/Isreal today), are not the same as Berbers (although probably decently related). They are very much not the same as Arabs a group that came in during the islamic conquest forcing massive population displacement/movement/enslavement/extermination.
They may be Caucasian but neither are white people in the USA usage of "white".
Jews dominate business sectors that have taboos against them... hmm I wonder why? It must be a sign Jews are evil! Nothing to do with that they were limited in their business opportunities while statistically being near the most intelligent (based off IQ) people in the world...
Middle-Eastern Jews are less intelligent than Europeans for example, but more intelligent than Middle Easterners.
My initial comment only spoke to the fact that the State of Israel did not exist until 140 years after the end of the Trans-Atlantic slave trade.
To your comment, the modern State of Israel is dominated by Diaspora/Commercial "jews" who have little, if any, actual ties to the region of Jewish Palestine. The majority of them are European. Jews with actual ties to the region tend to be from the Haredi sects and, by and large, oppose the increasingly secularist State of Israel and "zionism" and are treated even worse than the West Bank occupiers. You rarely hear much about them.
[I]t is difficult to view the State of Israel today as being entirely native to the region.
While most of the secularist/orthodox slant will tell you - and this is not without merit - that the modern State of Israel owes its existence to and takes its legitimacy from the fact that Jews from all parts of the world uprooted themselves from their Diaspora homelands and came to region in the mid-1800s, buying land on a massive scale and developing it with the stated goal of creating a "national homeland for the jewish people", deep down they believe that the land is theirs by birthright as the "chosen" people of lore.
This puts them in conflict with the Haredi sects who believe that the jewish people lost their right to the so-called "promised land" and that attempts to reestablish it in modern times are a massive sacrilege.
Sure, that is probably a better way to label it and delve into a bit more detail, also to be fair I did qualify it with "near".
Its one of the best examples that you can 100% breed smarter humans.... but ya know if you do the whole inbreeding thing you also get genetic diseases. I don't really think its fully "unintentional", what with Jewish mothers in general or patriarchs in orthodox communities, but I think it would be fair to say "unplanned" in that there was nothing orchestrated from the top.
You can see it also in East Asians and South Asians particularly tracking bureaucratic/priestly/brahmin type casts.
Definitely a lot of possible explanations, seems to me it must be a combination of selection pressures but everybody has their own opinion. I think it really does beg many interesting questions and further study but youre right in that we will probably never get a truly definitive answer.
Aah yes its clearly those bad people who secretly run everything!
Isn't thinking one group of people is so incredibly superior they run everything while being just a tiny % of the world population pretty demoralizing?
Clearly their superiority has had a pretty damaging impact on your self-esteem. 15 million Jews running a planet with nearly 8 billion people on it, if anything seems proof to be the chosen people.
Blacks owe reparations to white taxpayers for constant rape, murder, and property damage for the entire time they've been in America, and willfully squandering trillions in welfare.
Yea, we are gonnna need those Reparation dollars to go through ActBlue first and then we will distribute those funds to those Democrat Orgs. who so desperately need your designated funds.
Hispanics owe reparations to Mayan & native descendants for wiping out their culture. Kinda explains South America. Go ahead, Antifa, burn down the taco stands.
Look at the genetic history of the Iberian peninsula for what true genocide looks like. There was a near total replacement of male lineages not that long ago.
Hispanics arent from Spain bro. Those are white Europeans. The white spainish europeans went to south america and banged the incans and the mayans and made them hispanics.
And the ones that didnt? You obviously havent traveled much. Argentina? Cuba? Uruguay? Chile? There is a distinct difference between the mixed people with significant native american heritage and those that are european.
Argentina has a significant amount of immigrants from Central Europe. They are still Hispanic according to the US definition. Similarly Japanese in Peru.
I've traveled plenty. The spaniiards banged the indiginous cuban people and made them hispanics too. and the chileans.
It was half a point, half quoting a joke. "Spanish people" are from Spain, no matter what 'race' they are. Calling someone from Mexico or Salvador "Spanish" is ridiculous.
There is very little native heritage in Cuba. Most of them died very early on. Unlike mexico where they had a full blown civilization Cuba has 10 guys in a hut. I am cuban and i only have 2% black and 2% native. My father has 0% native. Sure there was some banging but it wasnt the same everywhere. Plenty of people kept the mingling to a minimum just like it happened in North America.
In cuba the native culture is almost not recognized or celebrated. There is some random native poet they slap here or there and thats it. I grew up with bullfighters portraits in my living room and flamenco music. Lot of us dont see spain with great fondness unlike those more native heritage that see Spain as the oppressive conqueror.
Though regardless i’m used to be thrown into that basket already. Had never heard the term “hispanic” until i got to the US. Don’t blame you , it is a product of your circumstances.
Are they? Some are relatively white yes but others are clearly solidly Middle Eastern/not white. Look at Portuguese people, southern Spaniards or even Basque people, European sure but not really traditionally "white" in the USA. Portuguese people in the Northeast were treated the same as Italians up until very recently, which is to say as not really actually white people. The whole Catholicism part probably didnt help.
Yeah..but the point was "Spainish people" are from Spain. You doont call americans "English" because they speak english. Why would you call everyone from south america who speaks spanish "Spanish"?
Spaniards have a wide variety of skin tones and eye colors. Only the ones that have pale skin are considered white by American standards. In Spain race isn't an option on any form because they don't consider it a mitigating factor for behavior.
Northen spaniards are considerably lighter than their southern counterparts, same in Italy. Obviously a broad generalization but not particularly inaccurate.
I'm sorry but the debt was paid to blacks already. Paid for with the lives of American soldiers, paid off by importing them here instead of Africa or an Arab country, and paid off by the massive amounts of welfare, race-based admissions, and Affirmative Action hires.
They also enslaved US sailors and merchants. The decedents of their families need reparations. Also we need reparations from the French and English too while we are at it since they also enslaved our sailors. English also owe us the repair bill for the White House.
Also, by BLM's reparations/rape-a-nations logic, Jews owe reparations to Spaniards and Portuguese for working with the Muslim Moorish invaders frequently as tax collectors, viziers, etc., at least for a time (eventually the Muslims sort of turned on them).
I’m assuming schools will soon (or already have) stop teaching Cervantes’ masterpiece Don Quixote to avoid confronting this truth. Cervantes himself was captive to the moors (different kind of African slave ship I suppose).
Within the book, since it’s meta fiction the book is fictionally a collaboration/collection of historical accounts and artifacts of DonQuixotes life, the narrator even calls out the part of the story should not be trusted as truth since it was a result of a translation of Arabic texts.
BASED CERVANTES, MASTERPIECE MERCHANT EXTRAORDINAIRE
Moors weren't black.. They were arabs, berbers mainly. Maybe a few people from lower regions converted, but the majority was from northern Africa. I don't think you'll find 1 native moroccan today who identifies himself as "black".
WTF would we make an issue of something from so long ago, when there's Africans right now enslaving and selling other human beings? POTUS should announce we will immediately cease all relations with the countries that currently allow slavery to exist.
The moors were not Sub-Saharan Africans. This is another insane "we wuz kangz n shiet" lie to make black people feel better that when colonials arrived in the 1800s, they weren't even using the wheel.
To bring this thought full-circle, people from Spain are not "hispanic."
They are European.
Hispanic just means people who speak Spanish its not a racial classification but when people think of a Hispanic they usually think of some Brown Mestizo or South American Indian racially speaking.
You have no idea how much this pisses me off.
In Spain they speak Ethpañol.
jajajjajaaj
Olé queque! 🐸
Jijijiji
Como hijo de Espanoles, yo puedo confirmar!
Mas mierda de que "nosotros eramos reyes y mierda" Que se vayan a tomar por el saco!
Viva la reconquista!
Reeeeeeee!
They don't speak Spanish in Portugal
Spain and Portugal are separate and unique countries. They don't speak it much in Germany too.
They dont speak it in Italy either. Crazy
That is not the definition of Hispanic. At all. Firstly, there are two. Maybe even three. Its currently a term used politically as a cast net to capture a larger number of the minority brown vote. There's also residents of the island of Hispanola. But in this case Iberians can technically be called Hispanic because as early as 197 BC, it had been conquered by Rome and was the part of the Roman Empire known as HISPANIA. Nothing to do with language.
I am white with spanish name and my first language is spanish. In the US i’m “hispanic” / “latino”, everywhere else i’m just white. Part of the democrats plan to throw everyone in the same basket.
Unless you are in the US... where if you speak spanish you are a brown mexican no matter what. Thanks Obama?
There is a huge portion of “hispanic” that are direct descendant of southern european settlers in the Americas. But in the US you get labeled hispanic no mattwr what if you have a spanish name. It would be like calling english settlers descendants in the US a separate race from their european forefathers.
Then they owe Europeans reparations
thank you, came here to say it.
Northern Africans have always been in the worldwide mix, since ancient times. Not so much sub-saharan.
it's a continent, and a big one. Russia is not the same as India.
Moors were Berbers and Arabs both of which are Caucasian MENA people not Negroids. Just look at Hannibal Barcas bust the man is clearly Caucasian.
MCGA
Make Carthage great again!
Yeahhhhh Gonna need a time machine first to go back and stop Rome from razing it to the ground lol
create time machine to stop Rome
help carthage become great again
come back to present day
find Carthage in ruins from turning libtarded
Carthaginians, descended from the Phoenicians (people with origins functionally from the area that is Lebanon/Isreal today), are not the same as Berbers (although probably decently related). They are very much not the same as Arabs a group that came in during the islamic conquest forcing massive population displacement/movement/enslavement/extermination.
They may be Caucasian but neither are white people in the USA usage of "white".
Sub Saharans enslaved each other, so Oprah owes a ton of money to Uganda
Ummm....
Jews dominate business sectors that have taboos against them... hmm I wonder why? It must be a sign Jews are evil! Nothing to do with that they were limited in their business opportunities while statistically being near the most intelligent (based off IQ) people in the world...
My initial comment only spoke to the fact that the State of Israel did not exist until 140 years after the end of the Trans-Atlantic slave trade.
To your comment, the modern State of Israel is dominated by Diaspora/Commercial "jews" who have little, if any, actual ties to the region of Jewish Palestine. The majority of them are European. Jews with actual ties to the region tend to be from the Haredi sects and, by and large, oppose the increasingly secularist State of Israel and "zionism" and are treated even worse than the West Bank occupiers. You rarely hear much about them.
While most of the secularist/orthodox slant will tell you - and this is not without merit - that the modern State of Israel owes its existence to and takes its legitimacy from the fact that Jews from all parts of the world uprooted themselves from their Diaspora homelands and came to region in the mid-1800s, buying land on a massive scale and developing it with the stated goal of creating a "national homeland for the jewish people", deep down they believe that the land is theirs by birthright as the "chosen" people of lore.
This puts them in conflict with the Haredi sects who believe that the jewish people lost their right to the so-called "promised land" and that attempts to reestablish it in modern times are a massive sacrilege.
Sure, that is probably a better way to label it and delve into a bit more detail, also to be fair I did qualify it with "near".
Its one of the best examples that you can 100% breed smarter humans.... but ya know if you do the whole inbreeding thing you also get genetic diseases. I don't really think its fully "unintentional", what with Jewish mothers in general or patriarchs in orthodox communities, but I think it would be fair to say "unplanned" in that there was nothing orchestrated from the top.
You can see it also in East Asians and South Asians particularly tracking bureaucratic/priestly/brahmin type casts.
Definitely a lot of possible explanations, seems to me it must be a combination of selection pressures but everybody has their own opinion. I think it really does beg many interesting questions and further study but youre right in that we will probably never get a truly definitive answer.
Aah yes its clearly those bad people who secretly run everything!
Isn't thinking one group of people is so incredibly superior they run everything while being just a tiny % of the world population pretty demoralizing?
Clearly their superiority has had a pretty damaging impact on your self-esteem. 15 million Jews running a planet with nearly 8 billion people on it, if anything seems proof to be the chosen people.
Blacks owe reparations to white taxpayers for constant rape, murder, and property damage for the entire time they've been in America, and willfully squandering trillions in welfare.
As a Portuguese guy, i never thought of it this way. Fantastic! BTW, a lot of us are ready for the new Crusades
Yea, we are gonnna need those Reparation dollars to go through ActBlue first and then we will distribute those funds to those Democrat Orgs. who so desperately need your designated funds.
MOOPS!
MOORS!
The card says MOOPS!
There's no moops! It's a misprint. It's moors!!
That episode predicted covid.
Muslims owe whites reparations for imprisoning seafarers in the 1800's, and enslaving parts of Europe before that.
You mean Moops? 😆😂
As a Sicilian I also demand reparations.
You should already be covered by BLM
Italians/Sicilians also
Got a chesterfield?
Hispanics owe reparations to Mayan & native descendants for wiping out their culture. Kinda explains South America. Go ahead, Antifa, burn down the taco stands.
No one is innocent
As a Spaniard I don't approve of this. Spain enslaved half the world at one time. While I am proud of my heritage, we were some brutal mother fuckers.
Enslaved is too strong of a word. Is a matter of perspective.
Look at the genetic history of the Iberian peninsula for what true genocide looks like. There was a near total replacement of male lineages not that long ago.
Learned from the best of em!
Hispanics arent from Spain bro. Those are white Europeans. The white spainish europeans went to south america and banged the incans and the mayans and made them hispanics.
And the ones that didnt? You obviously havent traveled much. Argentina? Cuba? Uruguay? Chile? There is a distinct difference between the mixed people with significant native american heritage and those that are european.
Argentina has a significant amount of immigrants from Central Europe. They are still Hispanic according to the US definition. Similarly Japanese in Peru.
Which is dumb.
I've traveled plenty. The spaniiards banged the indiginous cuban people and made them hispanics too. and the chileans.
It was half a point, half quoting a joke. "Spanish people" are from Spain, no matter what 'race' they are. Calling someone from Mexico or Salvador "Spanish" is ridiculous.
Here's the joke...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDktG64Cx8I
There is very little native heritage in Cuba. Most of them died very early on. Unlike mexico where they had a full blown civilization Cuba has 10 guys in a hut. I am cuban and i only have 2% black and 2% native. My father has 0% native. Sure there was some banging but it wasnt the same everywhere. Plenty of people kept the mingling to a minimum just like it happened in North America.
In cuba the native culture is almost not recognized or celebrated. There is some random native poet they slap here or there and thats it. I grew up with bullfighters portraits in my living room and flamenco music. Lot of us dont see spain with great fondness unlike those more native heritage that see Spain as the oppressive conqueror.
Though regardless i’m used to be thrown into that basket already. Had never heard the term “hispanic” until i got to the US. Don’t blame you , it is a product of your circumstances.
Are they? Some are relatively white yes but others are clearly solidly Middle Eastern/not white. Look at Portuguese people, southern Spaniards or even Basque people, European sure but not really traditionally "white" in the USA. Portuguese people in the Northeast were treated the same as Italians up until very recently, which is to say as not really actually white people. The whole Catholicism part probably didnt help.
Yeah..but the point was "Spainish people" are from Spain. You doont call americans "English" because they speak english. Why would you call everyone from south america who speaks spanish "Spanish"?
Spanish people are white people... the Spanish are white europeans.
Dont call "spanish speaking" people from mexico and the south americas "spanish" just because thats the language they speak.
Spaniards have a wide variety of skin tones and eye colors. Only the ones that have pale skin are considered white by American standards. In Spain race isn't an option on any form because they don't consider it a mitigating factor for behavior.
Northen spaniards are considerably lighter than their southern counterparts, same in Italy. Obviously a broad generalization but not particularly inaccurate.
Jewish people with Sephardic ancestry would be considered Hispanic in the US. They speak Ladino, a language derived from medieval Castilian Spanish.
I'm sorry but the debt was paid to blacks already. Paid for with the lives of American soldiers, paid off by importing them here instead of Africa or an Arab country, and paid off by the massive amounts of welfare, race-based admissions, and Affirmative Action hires.
Our nation got the worse end of the trade.
Moops
And they owe whites reparations for the Barbary Coast enslavements
Oh hell yeah. I am here for this. Where do I sign up for reparations?
Will take back the $10 from the CHAZ blacks for now...
Gibs me dat, ese!
Moors were not black. That's a myth cause the people there were European/Middle Eastern mixture with the local nomad Berber tribes.
Ok. Waiting for my reparation money. Four Spanish grandparents. I am sure somewhere along those lines there was enslavement and abuse by the moors.
Waiting...
They also enslaved US sailors and merchants. The decedents of their families need reparations. Also we need reparations from the French and English too while we are at it since they also enslaved our sailors. English also owe us the repair bill for the White House.
Also, by BLM's reparations/rape-a-nations logic, Jews owe reparations to Spaniards and Portuguese for working with the Muslim Moorish invaders frequently as tax collectors, viziers, etc., at least for a time (eventually the Muslims sort of turned on them).
Great, now convince the global media to back this narrative, and maybe you'll get somewhere with it!
Anyone alive in Africa today could be descended from slavers.
If they emigrate here they should have to pay reparations to American blacks before they can come.
im still waiting on my reparation check from Ghengis Khan.
I’m assuming schools will soon (or already have) stop teaching Cervantes’ masterpiece Don Quixote to avoid confronting this truth. Cervantes himself was captive to the moors (different kind of African slave ship I suppose).
Within the book, since it’s meta fiction the book is fictionally a collaboration/collection of historical accounts and artifacts of DonQuixotes life, the narrator even calls out the part of the story should not be trusted as truth since it was a result of a translation of Arabic texts.
BASED CERVANTES, MASTERPIECE MERCHANT EXTRAORDINAIRE
Moors weren't black.. They were arabs, berbers mainly. Maybe a few people from lower regions converted, but the majority was from northern Africa. I don't think you'll find 1 native moroccan today who identifies himself as "black".
WTF would we make an issue of something from so long ago, when there's Africans right now enslaving and selling other human beings? POTUS should announce we will immediately cease all relations with the countries that currently allow slavery to exist.