THE SILENT MAJORITY STANDS WITH OFFICER ROLFE. YOU CAN'T TELL ME WITH A STRAIGHT FACE THAT AFTER WATCHING THIS YOU THINK HE'S UNJUSTIFIED IN SHOOTING BROOKS.
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they will throw this case out right before the election and there will be riots, the same will happen in Minn.
So the blue cities will riot, burn down their polling places and will accuse us voter suppression
Ah yes, as is tradition.
I won't mind a flat screen TV
I’m hoping to get some Air Jordan’s made by real child slaves.
Yea but officer was white so clearly laws don't apply here. CHECH MATE!
And he hurt the fee fees of libbies
Just fyi that statute just lays out the different ways it can be violated....they charged him with Felony murder which falls under paragraph (c)....commission of a dangerous felony resulting in death...they know they cant prove murder but if they can prove a felony they can get him under the felony murder doctrine
My wife is a paralegal who works in criminal law. Based on how they charged the officer what they are going to try to do is hang him for not telling the man he was under arrest and reading his rights before cuffing him. On this technicality they can push false arrest and assault as the predicate crime.
Since were asking, a new Les Paul?
COZY TIME!
"Can I refill your eggnog, Eddie? Drive you out into the middle of nowhere, leave you for dead?"
Don't throw me down, Clark.
My husband and I have started calling it “thug Christmas” lmao
I'll mull the wine!
This is the way.
The police in these cities can vote silently by all calling in sick during voting.. no sane person will go outside
The centipede has two curved hollow fangs which inject paralyzing venom.
The centipede is s predator.
The worst thing for criminals is no police to save them from me. Can shoot em on the street and just continue on with my business. I'm law abiding until nobody cares to enforce it. Then I'm free to do what I want. Evil must go.
My buddy's comment on at-home crime enforcement should the police be defunded:
"Who do I call to remove the bodies?"
Make friends with a farmer that has pigs.
Ah, I see, you sir are a true connoisseur
"... personified in this case by a 'orrible cunt.... ME." One of the best delivered lines in any movie.
Just compost them. Eco-friendly. Or buy some hungry pigs. Another good option.
The smell though
We gonna try to change that. Also with no police I think we have to take down the propagandist in the Ministry of propaganda and bulletin
I tried to explain to my girlfriend that the police aren't there to protect people like me from criminals - they are there to protect criminals from people like me.
I think she understood my words, but emotionally, she couldn't accept what I was saying.
Shoot. Shovel. Shut up.
This is the way. Do exactly what the psycholeftists want....on November 3.
They should really do this. At this point there is no career future in L.E. anyway. Might as well screw the bastards on the way out.
BLM and Antifa are not grassroots as they claim, they’re more astroturfed than the Vikings stadium. If mail in doesn’t work, and this does happen, which I believe it will, they will not harm polling places. They’re well organized and funneling money to DNC despite their claims. Then all the locals will be too afraid to go vote, probably much worse than a few years ago when “New Black Panthers” intimidated voters at polling places illegally and Obama let it slide.
They’ll bus in Dem voters as usual, gonna be massive fraud. Folks around here are making great predictions and I believe some will play out. October is going to be a hell of a month for this country. Every 4 years, candidates try to make a stark contrast and say “most important election of our lifetime.” in 2020, Trump better play that card, but I think many of the voters Know it.
Even if BLM and antifa can be reined in, there's so much crime in blue cities that if police was to strike on that day nobody would go to the polls.
The poll workers will go, and they don't need people to actually show up to vote, they'll vote for them.
110% turnout baby!
How do you become a poll worker?
Can't we fill the polls with pedes, even in Democrat cities?
No chance. The fraud happens in precincts under total Democrat control.
People have tried poll watching in these places; they throw you the fuck out. They don't care that by law you're allowed, and nobody else cares to enforce it either.
Hell, they place Democrat propaganda in many of them, even though that's against the law too.
And now with ballot harvesting/vote by mail, they don't even need to control the precinct to stuff the box.
But how do they know that you're a pede?
they could dry up blm and antifa money it would be over. They only play with pay.
Every person with a badge knows it too.
Atlanta needs to be rebooted
But will the left keyboard warriors come out and play? I’m ready ;)
The only places in Minnesota that were ripe for a riot have already been burnt and looted. It's hard to get looters, addicts and thieves, to show up to a riot when there are no more liquor stores and pharmacies to clean out.
I know someone who knows someone who saw 3 bussloads of antifa YESTERDAY at a tourist juice/fruit company just milling around and getting snacks and having a break before getting back on the bus. They were headed out to central oregon to start some riots.
Then what's crazy is we heard that from a friend who was from northern cali, who happen to be travelling and saw them... so ---> we go to call our friends in central oregon to give them a heads up and they already knew all about it...
Every time I think about the idea of pantyfa trying to start some shit with three bussloads of punks in the middle of MAGA country, I just start chuckling to myself. Hope they all brought lots of changes of undies, is all I have to say.
I wouldn't be sorry to see those buses raided.
We need to start fighting back.. punish these morons
with the antifa faggots inside.
I thought of that, but the driver is probably some poor schmo working for a charter company. So if the driver got off safely, then I don't care what happens to the bus after that.
The first night of rioting in Minneapolis, there was a lot of chatter about buses letting off people. Other people came into the livestream and started saying it was the National Guard and Trump was imposing martial law. The National Guard doesn't use buses for transportation. The Democrats were trying to goad Trump into over reacting to the riots. Now, that they realize that hasn't worked and they have basically, once again, used the poorest people in their cities to help achieve political goals, the riots have pretty much died down. That's why they switched the focus to statues and the press is back to scaremongering about WuFlu.
Pantyfa, Ha! Accurate description. They aren't going to be able to operate out of either downtowns or poverty stricken areas in cities. No one else would put up with their crap next to their own children's schools, parks, dog walks, churches etc. They can't even operate in inner ring suburbs.
The National Guard does use buses for transportation, but not in that situation. We use one when we go from our armory to our yearly physical at another armory.
well, I didn't mean like out to dinner when the day is done or something while somewhere. I meant in the course of acting as soldiers.
In the sense of if were to be activated as a result of martial law? Nah, that'd be silly.
But we still use them while on duty if we have to transport a large number of folks to one place, i.e. yearly physical, to the airport, etc.
Gotta get me out of Oregon and to someplace that don't have knee-bending people selling out their Police.
Someplace with a vet hospital would be great, but I don't know of anywhere that big worth trusting yet.
Maybe idaho? Great fishing, laid back folks, leans red, nice climate etc...
There are many questions to be answered about Minnesota yet.
We have the badge cams from ATL. The MN killing stinks worse than Pulse.
Almost as if it were ordered by Soros.
I don't know, the fact they upgraded to second degree could help him
He was already cuffed while all that was going on.
You do know that they tried to put him in the car, but he fought and struggled against the cops and ended up back on the street, right? And the cop didn't stand on Floyd's neck. I guess that just sounds more sinister
Law enforcement officers of redit. What is your excited delirium story?/What tactics would you recommend for handling such individuals?
From this article
How are you upvoted? They did try to throw him in the car dude. Just further proves how misreported this case was when even people on this site don't understand what happened
"Then why not just throw the guy in the car?"
I guess because they wanted to catch a murder charge.
Hadn't he resisted arrest? Didn't they put him in the car, and then he got out of it or struggled out of it? I still suspect that it was murder reg. George Floyd, especially due to kneeling on the neck (why not kneel on the shoulder instead, much, much safer?) as well as Floyd and the police officer likely knowing each other already. But restraining him was not without reason, and George Floyd was not a small man and also had a criminal record including robbery and home invasions.
This case reg. Rolfe ought to be thrown out or similar, since they beyond any doubt did not do anything wrong.
This is the DA:
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Did Soros buy his election as well?
He owns the mayor...shes on bidens VP short list.
The prosecutor dutifully supplied CNN and friends with all the sound bytes they'll ever need.
He's gonna be up for reelection this year I believe (unless Hannity didn't mean immediate reelection, but it sounded like this year)
Either way, they overcharged the guy. Whether it was on purpose or SJW bullshit, that's actually a good thing. But now the poor guy has to suffer going through this complete miscarriage of justice
Simple drunkness does this to people. At least that’s what I noticed in watching hundreds of hours of Cops and LivePD.
LivePD.... ;(
This whole thing would have been avoided if the cops weren't afraid to use more force when they had him on the ground. They didn't pin him to the ground, which gave him the opportunity to grab the tazer, and then they still were too cautious about increasing use of force, which allowed him to get up and then run away with the tazer.
"making a run for it, grabbing the taser, firing at officers, it's just our culture, it's what we do"
(I've a feeling I might get another subreddit ban for posting that in r/news :)
You’d also get banned for any mention of facts. After he got shot, everyone popped out of their cars with cameras. The things some of them said were fucking ridiculous.
“I FUCKING SAW YOU!!! FOR 20 MINUTES!!! You were harassing that poor man FOR NO REASON for 20 MINUTES!!! HE DIDN’T DO ANYTHING!!!!”
If they were there the whole time, they just saw him beat up the cops and take their taser and try shooting one of them in the face with it and run off and hit another with the taser. He was being talked to because he was so drunk he passed out in his car in the middle of a Wendy’s drive thru.
Personally, considering how patient that cop was about all of it as it went on, I’d promote him. I personally still miss the old days where if someone tried hinting at pulling that kind of shit, you just beat them down with night sticks. There’d be a lot less death’s at the hands of police if we let them use nonlethal and less than lethal force a lot earlier. The second he pulled away with the cuffs on, beat him down with a night stick. Or just tase him in the ass. Have the taser out the whole time. Have it pointed at him. Treating him like a crazy idiot sooner would have saved all their lives. Still not sad he was shot though after seeing what happened. Maybe rubber bullets as the initial rounds could have helped? Still lacking on empathy here for the crazy drunk guy with priors that caused this.
I wanted to slap the black off of that one asshole yelling all that shit.
Don't forget how he did CPR on the mother fucker trying to save him. FUCK THOSE WITNESSES, for all I care intentionally lying about what you witnessed should get your ass pressed with charges
I watch a lot of cop body cam and its remarkable there isn't 10x the amount of cop on suspect violence.
People treat cops like shit. 90% of the time I'm like "just shoot the guy"
I haven’t seen them much until recently, but I mostly thought the same thing. You pull up to someone and check their record. They’re a fucking piece of shit that beats their wife and abandoned their children and steals and robs pregnant women at gunpoint and is on drugs. They’re also typically bigger guys with meat on them. They’re clearly breaking the law, so you make a motion to talk to them and calmly put them under arrest because hey, guess what, that’s what you do for a living. Douchebag’s been cursing at you the whole time and acting like he’s going to beat you up. Then what do you know he starts trying to beat you up. You take a few to the face, you try to calm him down. Then he takes your taser/gun/fucking anything and starts using it on your partner and pointing it at you.
You can’t exactly call 911 because that’s you, you’re the cavalry, you’re the help. There’s nobody coming, it’s just you against an objectively failed person that’s now trying to hurt you and your friends because you tried arresting them for knowingly breaking the law in ways that at times would lead to someone else dying, like drunk driving. The guys that get shot in these situations aren’t ‘having a bad night’, they had a bad life, and this is a continued escalation of that. They’re ‘the bad guys’. It’s them. They’re the villain. If the villain, while the fucking heroes in blue are trying to be nice to them despite being shat on by everyone including them, then starts violently attacking the cop on top of that, shooting them seems like justice being served. It’s all on camera now to show what’s actually happening, and people have records that are quite literally their character on paper.
It’s not about their race. What are they going to do, go back to prison for years and cost tax payers hundreds of thousands, then come out and do it again? Have a few oops babies and not pay child support and head back in? Stop committing crimes and stop attacking police officers and maybe you’ll stop getting shot. But if you do get shot and that’s how it went down, you’re the villain. Justice was served. The bad guy is you. They finally took your dumbass down.
They’re not out there shooting people for first time tax evasion and parking tickets.
Every word.
And then you get the clean guy, and he starts mouthing off just like the career criminal when there's really no need, just take your medicine. But no, you want to act tough instead of submitting for 30 mins. You're going to prove a point, well done, toe tag for you.
This whole thing would have been avoided if Rayshard Brooks didn't drive drunk, pass out in his vehicle, resist arrest, fight the cops, steal a taser and then fire it at the officer.
FTFY.
None of this shit would ever happen if black people would just stop acting like they do when detained. Just shut the fuck up and go along and you will walk away in a few minutes unless you have a warrant but that's on them.
What these 0 IQ retards don't realize is there are 800,000 cops in the US. If they were systematically killing blacks, as they claim, they're super fucking ineffective at it.
Bingo. He cooperated for the whole time, until it was time for the cuffs to be put on. The leo’s were polite, civil, courteous the entire time. But Rashad got uppity. Which makes me wonder what else was going on.
Dumb motherfucker. I’ve seen way to many episodes of C.O.P.S. where the dui goes smoothly.
Dont resist arrest and everyone lives to see another day.
He was on parole, DUI meant going back to prison. He was willing to do anything necessary to prevent being arrested. Of course he was too drunk/stupid to realize the cops already had his ID and all of his personal info, they'd have caught his dumb ass anyways.
I have no sympathy for him, that shithead deserved to still be in prison for the other stupid shitty things he'd already previously done.
He was on parole due to covid. They let him out to keep him from catching the media hype germ.
HE WAS IN JAIL FOR ABUSING CHILDREN.
A lot of white people act just the same way. It’s only a black and white issue because the democrats want that
and 13% commit over 50% of violent crimes because the democrats want it that way.
And Africa is only a shithole because of the white man colonizing it! Otherwise it'd be a paradise!!!!
You forgot Wakanda...
Ah yes, the Hollywood rendering of Africa that just so happens to be the exact opposite from what Africa really is. Par for the course with Hollywood.
Dude, did you notice the blacks speaking in the video? They’re just going off about how the “pigs” questioned him for “20 ffing minutes over nothing”, and he was “unarmed”.
Literally people at the scene pretending like he wasn’t drunk, the police were there for no reason, he didn’t just try to fight them, he didn’t steal a taser, and then he didn’t proceed to fire the taser at officers.
I just don’t see what you can do in an environment where people are so wilfully blind. Thank God they have bodycam and surveillance footage.
They're not like us. Just look at any black country in the world.
The DA in Atlanta literally said the man was "calm and cooperative until one of the officers grabbed him from behind".
I'm on the verge of a preemptive boogaloo, this shit is getting out of hand. We don't even live in the same reality anymore, much less the same country.
Even worse for me are the blacks speaking in this video, claiming that he was unarmed, and that the police were questioning him over nothing.
Atlanta is a tough place for police.
Also, if he wasn't released from prison due to the scamdemic. That would've also helped.
Good fucking point. SMDH...
Didn’t he get the ol’ wuhan flu release?
Reintroduce black criminals on a conditional release who are prone to violence and criminal behavior and due to their legal status are more likely to get into confrontation with cops.
Yep nothing to see there......btw thanks for helping me reframe the Wuhan flu releases, Soros has been investing in the judicial for a reason. I'd like to see stats on released Wuhan flu inmates.
Wow yea. It finally clicked.
Fluoride is a helluva drug. I really appreciate the pedes who are privy to this nonsense.
Any they loooove to gaslight us with “tWo TiErEd JuStIcE sYsTeM”.
That part's true, but the tiers are actually split between common folk and high level democrats.
Exactly!
No, he was convicted in 2015 and only served 4 months of his 9 year sentence before they let him out on parole. The WuFlu release is just made up bullshit, he's been out for years.
Which is frankly even worse.
Jesus that is ridiculously worse.
Sure did
Yeah, he never had to face any real consequences for his actions, so he kept getting more and more confident, right up until the end. The system failed the police, and Rayshard failed himself.
Exactly
They did try to pin him though. At 41:35
Not really. You pin a guy with your knees into their back, neck, or head. Gee, wonder why they wouldn't want to do that???
You can see the cop even put him in a chokehold after he grabbed the tazer for a second but then let go. That's why he was easily able to get back up on his feet.
A few weeks ago there was absolutely no way that guy would have been able to get up. The cops would be smashing his face into the ground with their knees dug into his back like they're trained to do.
the police have been put in an impossible situation. they can save a life by using appropriate force, but then be fired or charged if that force looks bad on camera, or they can use appropriate force and if the person dies they get fired or charged with murder. There is no winning.
No kidding. Couldn't entice me into law enforcement as a job after watching all this. No pay is worth possibly being locked up for life for just trying to do your job.
That's why they are resigning in droves. Seattle's had over 30 resignations in the past few weeks.
Seattle is Dying
Guess as a cop you need to be 6'6 and 275 pounds of pure muscle.
And not give a damn. Those two could have subdued him but were not as rough as they could have been. I don’t blame them. They are in an impossible situation.
Couldn't pay me enough to work in law enforcement right now.
How about not following orders for any amount of money?
I ignore orders all the time, and don't get paid shit. Lol
PUT ON YOUR MASK SIR
Don't worry they'll listen to their masters and arrest peaceful right wing people, though.
Feel not a lick bad for them.
What do you get when you betray, the only people who ever supported you, and ABANDON THEM AT EVERY TURN?
I'll tell you what you get. You get what you fucking deserve!
Wrong. You do NOT pin someone on the neck. That is a technique that the military doesn't even allow when detaining people. There are better ways to control someone, but this dude was hopped up on something.
Isn't it too dangerous to kneel into their neck? Back seems like it is (much?) safer to pin. And don't you risk putting too much pressure into the skull if you kneel on the head? But I am by no means an expert.
You do whatever you have to to win the fight.
Very true. Though, if the fight ends up won, and there are multiple officers present, wouldn't you move your kneeling away from the neck, at least?
He wasn't making up moves. He was doing what he was trained to do. It's in the mnpls pd manual.
Did he fully follow the manual? And does the manual not also encourage officers to observe the situation and use their own judgement? Or is the manual that strict, and prescribe that police officers must follow it to the letter?
They tried to be nice because the last time a cop used sufficient force to subdue a suspect who was also on massive amounts of fentanyl and meth we had a nation-wide chimp out.
Yeah, floyd was going to die that day no matter what, he just happened to die in police custody. Hell, even if the cop didn't put his knee on his neck, he would have still died and these riots would have still happened simply because he was in police custody when he died. I bet his family is fucking loving this too, they are millionaires now...
Wasn't the kneeling on the neck incredibly dangerous? While the case here with officer Rolfe should be thrown out since he did nothing wrong, the case with Chauvin seems extremely different and as far as I can tell possibly intentional murder (especially since Chauvin knew Floyd). George Floyd did still resist arrest, I recall him struggling his way out of a police car in one of the video segments, he was not a small man, and he had a long criminal record including robbery and home invasion. But kneeling on someone's neck for an extended time... and they likely knew each other...
See also https://www.quora.com/Why-do-police-put-their-knee-on-the-back-of-your-neck-when-cuffing-you and the answer by the account that claims the name "Paul Harding", where he describes that they try to avoid kneeling on the neck when putting on handcuffs.
There was no evidence of strangulation or damage to the tissue around the neck, which leads me to believe he put little to no pressure on the knee that was on his neck. The cop should get at most involuntary manslaughter, in my opinion.
I am not a doctor, but... that sounds very off. And George Floyd did at least once say something like "I can't breathe". And do you have a source for:
? And is that sufficient to rule out kneeling contributing or being the largest or by itself sufficient cause of death?
Wikipedia writes among other aspects this:
Which describes "neck compression" as seemingly relevant from what I can tell. Though, that paragraph might be wrong.
Crazy thought but I'm guessing his family would rather have him be alive instead of money, but who knows.
If I had a dad that was a deadbeat the entire time I knew him, I probably would care more about the money. That could just be me though.
This is the dumbest thing I've read this week.
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You are saying that, without any doubt, he definitely would've died even if his counterfeiting buddy didn't put a knee to his neck for 8 minutes. Extreme statements are seldom true, and you made more than one. Maybe he was epsteined idk, but I'm gonna call out ridiculousness when I see it.
A baton to the skull or a sleeper hold would have easily defused the situation.
Didn't exactly defuse LA in 1992 either.
Just said this in another post...
I watched the whole video. Officer Rolfe was incredibly professional and gave this guy numerous chances to explain his way out of his situation. He allowed Rayshard to rummage around in his car for his license. A racist cop would have shot him right then and claimed he was going for a gun. Officer Rolfe went for his taser first to subdue the guy. The guy resisted arrest, stole a taser, ran...what else should the cop do?
Fucking liberals today...."well he should have used the legs that God gave him to chase down and catch the guy without shooting him" I fucking hate liberals. A. liberals hate God and have no business invoking His name. B. its not that fucking simple to chase a guy down. he had the taser, to my knowledge. he was now an armed threat to the community.
I support Officer Rolfe 100%.
A taser is a lethal weapon according to BLM after all. So liberals can't walk their way outta this one.
oh, they will try....
Yeah they have pulled way more blatant hypocrisy than this. And gotten away with it, for the most part. Watch them...
Bike lock head smasher got away with it
Since when have double standards mattered to the left? Double standards are the only standards they have.
I think that's the problem. Shouldn't outlaw something just because one person can't use it correctly. Why are fireworks outlawed in CA? Because one person had to fuck it up, be irresponsible, and blow their hand off. AND file a lawsuit because they can't take responsibility of their own actions. And this goes much beyond fireworks. Why should one person have to fuck it up for everyone else?
We are a society of lowest common denominator and that bar is set low my friend
If the action was intentionally done, then yeah, that's fucked up and the cop should be brought to justice. By intentionally, I mean that the cop intended to cause physical harm that was irreparable to the kid. And in that situation, BLM does have a point. If it was unintentionally done, then the cop really can't be blamed: the kid was out of line. That being said, there is no way to draw a conclusion, except to look at the body camera footage.
I think BLM would have a stronger point if they mainly targeted dirty cops: Most likely, Chauvin was a dirty cop because he worked at a club involved with trafficking women from Mexico and laundering counterfeit money. Unfortunately, they say "ACAB: All Cops Are Bastards". And that's never something I'd agree with. Cops are people too, and most are quite reasonable, kind, and fair. (That being said, they aren't your friend if you're being arrested, but that's obvious lol) And I say this as what the left would say, "A colored person....I mean Person of Color". Unfortunately, BLM is an extremist group that serves as a militant arm for the Dems, alongside money laundering for them as well. Their actions are not aligned with what they preach. And they should not be given any sort of mercy or compassion when dealt with by the law.
Edit: I'm not sure why u/_bryan is being downvoted, because he did bring up a good point and discussion.
I was discussing the other day with someone, so many of our problems stem from people lacking self responsibility. Its sad, but I am glad to see that others see the same thing. I guess it should be expected here on TD though.
false. watch the video. Officer Rolfe gave him all kinds of chances to explain his story. he couldn't do it. and i will say, the only way i see the officer could have done better, was cut the interrogation short. clearly the guy was off his rocker. the officer should have told him to call someone to come get him, or just went ahead and arrested him. but that still didn't give rayshard the excuse to resist arrest and attack the cops.
Blame MADD they made even slightly under the influence a big deal. They can't let people go for it or they'll face lawsuits. If officer Rolfe left him without arresting him - the Atlanta PD could be sued for damages he caused.
Exactly. Like the Eric Garner situation. Cops have to arrest people for breaking the 100,000 laws politicians write, then people resist and it’s all the cop’s fault - and the politicians jump on the perps side and stab their enforcement in the back. Depending on the skin color of the perp. This whole thing is sick.
Don't follow orders for a living, kids.
I'm right with ya, this is madness. The media has peoples brains in a sleeper hold.
The next thing he would have done is jack someone's car to get away. If he gets killed jacking a car, is that murder too?
And rightfully so-dude was over the legal limit. He was passed out.
Definitely.
Where I am, I know people that got arrested sleeping in the back seat of their cars with the key in their pocket because of the risk that they could drink and drive.
I know people (women) that had a glass of wine with dinner and have gotten DUIs after being hit by another car because they were at .08
The rules are super strict, Rayshard Brooks probably could have gotten away with drinking and driving if he wasn't passed the fuck out, then immediately passed out again. Then again.
I was once woken up by police at 4:30 AM when I was sleeping in my vehicle in my friends driveway, I left the keys on my back tire (because I know the routine) but they still tried to give me shit. This parolee passed out in a drive thru wanting tendies.
is that national law?
No, but is in several places. They've written everything so convoluted, they can't let people go for anything. The first guy even debates if he wants to deal with it, or let him go - but he's in no state to drive, if they leave him alone, and he wakes up and drives off and kills someone, legally that officer could have repercussions, the police would have repercussions, and it's unethical to be in a position to stop something and not.
Officers are very very rarely giving you a chance to explain your way out of a situation. They knew he was drunk the moment they smelled the alcohol in his car. The first question he asked, and any officer would ask in that situation is "How much have you had to drink tonight?" Pay attention closely. They don't ever ask, "did you have anything to drink" because the obvious answer to even an idiot is to say "no", instead they ask a question that puts the suspect in the frame of mind- "they already know I've been drinking so I'll try and say it was just one drink or two drinks" thinking that just one or two drinks means you can walk away. In reality, it doesn't matter how many drinks you say you've had, you just admitted to drinking. The officer continues asking him questions, not to let him go, they know they're not letting him go the minute they look up his rap sheet and find out he's violating parole. They ask the questions to get the guy comfortable and take his guard down. The drawn out interrogation is a very smart control tactic, get the guy to not be defensive and convince him he's only going to the station for the breathalyzer test. Unfortunately the dude had been to jail before and panicked the second they tried to cuff him.
You should never talk to police. They aren't there to give you a chance to explain things. They are giving you rope to hang yourself.
Obviously this isn't true of all police, I've seen officers bend over backwards to help idiots that probably should have spent a night in jail, but in general...don't talk to police.
So what exactly should they have done? Slipped a citation under his wiper, called an ambulance and drove away?
I'm not suggesting they did anything wrong. I'm just explaining to parent commenter that you don't simply "explain" your way out of a DUI. The more you talk the more evidence you stack up against yourself for the courts.
And the guy refused an ambulance. You can't force someone to take an ambulance. If they called an ambulance, the ambulance would have shown up asked him if he needed treatment, he'd deny, they'd leave, he'd get in his car and drive drunk. They probably wouldn't have arrested him if he'd been willing to accept an ambulance and a ride to the hospital.
You can't just let the guy walk away either though. I see a ton of people on reddit saying they should have just called him a cab or a relative to pick him up. Sure. Then when he decides he's good to drive a few hours and drinks later and he needs to get his car before it gets towed, then ends up killing someone- those cops are fucked.
Guilty until proven guilty.
For the down vote. I believe in innocent until proven guilty and no unreasonable search and seizure
Don’t votes for not being innocent until proven guilty
Driving isn't a right, you play by their rules.
Once the DUI cop showed up, it was all letting him incriminate himself. Cops are not your friends, they get you talking so you can incriminate yourself. There is a good video of a FBI guy explaining that on youtube.
Never talk to the cops even if you are innocent and trying to prove it. Lawyer up
And Rayshard did an absolute outstanding job doing that by changing his bullshit story 50 times.
I came away from the video with the absolute certainty that whatever he drank, it was not a half, one, one and a half or two margaritas or daquris.
He was an armed threat to the community the minute he got behind the wheel drunk. He's now dead so the people around him no longer need to suffer.
And if he crashed the car and killed somebody you wouldn't have heard word one about it. That life doesn't matter.
They were beyond respectful and deferential to this guy. They even let him DRIVE his own car from the drive-thru line to the parking space. That in itself would have been seized on by a defense attorney and gotten him off. But no, don't use common sense, take the arrest and fight it in court.
Cops love to say that carparks are private property and its not their problem if someone damages your properties.
Well put.
What’s disgusting is his partner in the video who’s taser was taken said he will testify against Rolfe.
wow. to save himself.
That son of a bitch has carved out a special place in hell for himself.
Also, I bet he won't be a cop anymore either. He'd be absolutely alone out there, ain't another cop anywhere who would watch his back. He just painted a target on it himself.
Yea, just heard that; hard to believe. They must have leaned on him hard. I bet there'll be a cushy job in the city admin as part of the deal, though, because nobody would ever partner with him and the rest of the force would shun him utterly for doing this.
Yeah , future chief material right there.
Partner with him? How are there any potential partners left? I'd nope out of there so fast it would leave flaming footprints, I've never seen someone thrown under the bus so hard. You have a family? What are they going to do when you go to prison for doing your job?
Exactly this. He may as well be in prison he'd be so hated
Easy fella.
Agreed wholeheartedly
REMEMBER, THE LITIGATION IS THE PUNISHMENT!
It's called "Lawfare" for a reason.
Look. Clearly white people can't stop their compulsion for shooting black people. Therefore, we need to set up safe spaces where only black people can live, where only black-owned businesses can operate, and where whites are forbidden to enter.
Conversely, black Americans should be advised to refrain from leaving these black-only safe spaces, because the odds of running into a racist white person who will conpulsively shoot them is too high.
We could call this policy "separate, but equal"...wait...I think I've heard of this before...hmmm...
When have blacks done anything to police their culture and communities? A key principle in the black community is “victimhood” and blaming everyone else for your failures and to hate whites and cops.
They act like this everywhere in the world.
Blacks were starting to do good in the 60s before welfare. They had stronger families than whites and household income increasing at a faster rate.
They were sold on victim hood, but some are starting to wake up.
I have a solution: the black Americans that hate cops and feel eternal victimhood should take back their country Africa as KANGZ and turn it into the Wakanda it would be if wypipo did not hold them down.
I unironically think this would be the best solution for everyone.
Seems to be working well for the white colony in South Africa.
Rape Capital of the world.
The colony or the country in general?
South Africa in general.
Seriously. The silent majority being too silent for too long is the VERY REASON why society is the way it is today. The silent majority is guilty for letting the insane leftists take control of us. I can't fucking stand it when people just say "just wait till the elections." If there was ever a time to take a stand and take back our country, IT IS NOW.
History says the odds of the silent majority being silent until they are in chains and being executed by the millions is the most likely outcome.
This isn't the first post you made advocating for killing. You're going to get this site shut down too. Stop posting that shit lol
Shut down by who?
That's what I said lol
also...fuck all these people getting out of their cars and starting to film, or yelling at the cops after the fact. fuck you idiots.
Ayyyy he dindu nuffin
LOL for real. The guy saying they were harassing him and he was innocent. You conveniently closed your eyes the last minute or two of the confrontation..idiots.
He later tells it differently about how after 20 minutes of being harassed apparently the innocent man knew he was going to be arrested for no reason and didn't want to take that shit.
The lengths people go to defend criminals is ridiculous. And I've heard this guy had a record for abusing his kids and/or wife. What a classy man.
You could hear someone yell, "The cops shot him for absolutely no reason what so ever!"
yea.... right. Its on video dipshit.
Also repeat “what the fuck” x50
Culture
Holy shit, this guy had every opportunity to just sleep it off in the car, but instead decided to escalate at every chance
And to everyone saying it was "for no reason"
The tard took a taser, shot at cops, what were they supposed to do?
Let him run off with a deadly weapon? Let him use it on innocent people?
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes, and Mr No Fucking Reason you need to sit your ass down and shut up while grown folks is talking
I hope Robert Barnes takes this case so he can righteously slap it down and shame every one trying to lynch these officers for doing their job
You know, if I was thinking about joining the police force and watched what these dudes just had to go through, I would have serious second thoughts about becoming a cop.
Knowing they are going to be ruined because of it on top of having to deal with the scum of society 24/7 would pretty much be the nail in the coffin.
This is the time to resign if you are a cop and don't even think about picking up the badge if you aren't. Get a gun, move to a red area and protect yourself.
This is the point they're going to use to crucify this cop. They will argue that there was no emergency. They will argue that Brooks stole a non-lethal weapon and was fleeing at the time that he was shot.
The only hope this guy has is if he gets a very, very good lawyer. Even then, depending on how the case is handled...it might not be enough.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-minneapolis-police-protests-tasers-in/black-americans-disproportionately-die-in-police-taser-confrontations-idUSKBN23M16E
liberals say they are lethal when it is convenient
it's all possible. they do it all the time.
The perp had a tazer and was capable of incapacitating the cops. No good. Then he can grab their weapons.
Completely agree. But since he was killed before that could happen, they will absolutely create this alternate narrative where he was just a poor boy who did nothing wrong.
Weapon, Action, Opportunity.
That’s the “Deadly Force Triangle” and the dude showed all three. The cop was justified.
Weapon = taser Action = taking it, pointing it Opportunity = nothing was in the way of him firing it
Exactly. His job was to chase and apprehend him at that time. Multiple offenses including felony up to this point. Shooting behind you while running could incapacitate the cop who is carrying a firearm. This is all such a joke.
I am 100% with you. But that's not how these people think. They think "non-lethal weapon does not require lethal force" and that's where their logic stops.
No worries, I understand. This is a heated topic and your anger is definitely justified. I didn't take it personally at all.
Anyway, that graphic is really helpful and you can clearly see how things continued to escalate. The officers were absolutely handling the situation correctly...you might even argue that they waited to long to escalate their response to an increasingly belligerent offender.
That's why they are referred to a less-lethal. Not non-lethal, not less-than-lethal. Less lethal means it's not intended to cause death, but the potential exists. He even aims the taser, and I think he fires it. That's all the elements necessary for lethal force: the means (the taser), the opportunity (aiming it at the cops), and intent (also aiming it at the cops, and/or firing it.)
Within policy, well within the law. Open shut. Even borderlines on a malicious prosecution, wrongful termination all to score some political points.
If this goes through, good luck when police aren't responding to a motherfucking thing. But try and defend yourself? The police will be there to arrest you and prosecute you though.
Didn't he steal a taser and shoot it at an officer?
Yeah, but it was at wendys. Could just as easily have been a chicken wing. /s
All it says is “in the case of self defense or emergency.”
It doesn’t mention what kind of self defense or emergency. You could argue that just resisting arrest and wrestling warrants self defense.
It does not say that the officer must be acting in self defense against a deadly weapon. It simply says self defense or emergency.
For example, in CA you can only use deadly force if you realistically fear for your life and feel like if you don’t use deadly force, you will be killed. It is explicitly written that way. This law doesn’t seem to elaborate on self defense or emergency. I don’t think this will stick if he gets a good lawyer.
I certainly hope you're right.
I guess it’s ok to resist arrest now, we’ll get him next time.
I got into it with someone on Reddit over this and they actually said the cops should have let him run away with their taser and tried to find him later.
Theyre cops, thats their job. The taser had been fired and wasnt useful anymore, he wasnt be arrested for a violent killing spree or some shit. If you cant keep up with an impaired individual you shouldnt be a cop. They dont even have to catch him they just have to have one guy keep him in sight and the other get in his car and stay ahead of him, while calling in backup.
I dont think this was some racist or hateful shooting but lets not pretend there was no other option than to shoot him...
Right, because the drunk guy missed what he was aiming at then clearly the cop's life wasn't in danger. Also, the cop had the chance (while chasing a fleeing suspect) to accurately deduce that the drunk guy was not actually trying to shoot him in the face.
They're going to murder this cop. Use him as a sacrifice to appease the angry hordes they unleashed.
So just to clarify for everyone. According to this DA:
IF YOU SHOOT AT THE COPS AND MISS THEY CANT KILL YOU
:I
Just keep your back pointed at the officers and you wont be shot for any crime you're committing.
Genius!
*Puts hoodie on backwards
CHECKMATE COPS
The next DNC convention should be held in a mass grave
Good point! I hope every cop in Milwaukee "calls in sick" when they need them to provide security for the DNC.
Duh, didn't you know that police officers are supposed to do instantaneous ballistic trajectory analysis on-the-spot to determine whether it was aimed directly at them or not before deciding to protect themselves? Yeesh!
I’ve never been shot at or had a gun pointed at me but I’d be willing to bet when it happens your first thought isn’t calculating the projected trajectory.
You feeling lucky, punk?
the outrageous bit is that loudmouth cunt going off immediately spinning lies. "Unarmed, arrested for no reason, white cop, excuses."
NPC Script.
Thats the worst part. The ignorant peanut gallery that instantly take the perp’s side.
"We watched them"
Apparently not well enough. Completely misrepresented every aspect
I'm sure that will keep him happy when he is in prison.
We need to do more than just say nice words, we need mass protests. This is a total injustice and the end of policing if this goes ahead.
This is pure evil.
I agree. Sheriffs in small towns and counties should remain on watch. The rest of us will back you up.
But if you're right wing in a blue city as a cop, get the fuck out.
THIS IS WHY BLM WANTS BODYCAMS BANNED!
They know that video evidence like this EXONERATES cops way more than it catches cops breaking the law.
Didn’t they want all cops to have body cams. Only to prove that most cops have polite interactions with people or the camera justifies officers actions.
Funny isn't it? They fought to have bodycams and now they want to get rid of them.
It's a two way street. Badycam footage should be made public immediately.
EXACTLY. The Hodgetwins made this point too. Brooks just showed these officers that he had absolutely no regard for their lives. How can anyone with a brain assume that he will be civil with other authorities down the road?
I'm fucking livid and I feel so bad for our police officers. They literally put their lives on the line to keep us safe. I fully support any cop that decides to put themselves and their families first when they choose to resign. This is peak bullshit.
Hodgetwins are based? Damn I remember watching them a long ass time ago. I thought they were commies.
Or other civilians.
Action starts at 41:25
https://youtu.be/4O2IReqaYqw?t=2485
I'd start earlier so you can see how he contradicts himself several times, going from he just had a margarita to 1 then 2 then 1.5 "dacarys". Completely out of it.
While that's all useful background, I don't think any of it is relevant. He could have been 100% sober and compliant but the moment he starts to fight, game over.
19 minutes. He has NO IDEA where he is.
He doesn't know what street he's on or what city he's in, and his story about how he came to be sleeping behind the wheel in the middle of the drive thru changes several times. And yet he claims he's absolutely okay to drive.
Pointing that taser at the cops is aggravated assault - clear cut and by the DAs own standard. You can use deadly physical force to defend yourself against aggravated assault. End of story. The police have no duty of retreat, the suspect has no right to attack, resist, or run. The police have an absolute right to defend themselves agains great bodily harm. He was doing what he was explicitly trained to do.
I agree with this, but having the right doesnt mean that you cant be better than that. There was definitely an non-lethal resolution possible for this
I’m not into what-ifs. For all we know the cop saved the lives of a family of 6 and a car full of nuns, by preventing the suspect from commandeering a car and fleeing the scene drunk. We cannot know the outcomes this cop prevented through his legally justified actions. The suspect made the decision to abuse his family which resulted in parole, the suspect decided to drink and drive, the suspect decided to resist arrest, the suspect decided to assault two police officers, the suspect decided to steal a firearm from a police officer, the suspect decided to flee a felony arrest, the suspect decided to turn and point a deadly weapon at a police officer. Those were a lot of decisions the suspect made that if he had acted differently, he would still be alive. The officer, on the other hand had a split second to make his under duress.
Thats why i say it wasnt hateful, but still could have been policed better. Could he really not outrun a drunk dude?
he had all intent to, until a potentially deadly weapon was pointed at him from close range, and he decided to use deadly force in defense.
I am not aware of the law in GA, but in NY for instance, a police officer can use deadly force to prevent escape from arrest of a fleeing felon in possession of a firearm or deadly weapon. I have to assume GA law has as much or more teeth than NY, and in GA a taser is defined as a firearm.
That says nothing of the defensive use of force that the officer clearly was engaged in, but speaks to the seriousness that the legislature puts on fleeing a felony arrest, specifically while in possession of a weapon. The officer was right to be in a heightened state, and was correct in administering the use of force he did. He was following the training that every police officer in this country is offered.
I don’t want the dude to die, off a drunk driving charge. But are you really wanting to second guess a cop that had a guy stealing then firing the cops own taser?
I guess they could have let him run away, sure. Then what? They have to go get him? Then what? What could he do in the meantime? Why did he run? Does he have warrants? Etc, etc, etc. If this guy were a wanted murderer and they let him run away, they’d have hell from the public for that. Dude....this sucks, but you can’t second guess them in a hot situation like this.
Idk, i got in trouble for DUI and you really have to think about the fact that at this guys level of drunkeness he is 100% risking other peoples. Drunk driving is honestly a huge problem as is our over indulgence in booze. Drinks are fine, drinking is best saved for home.. Better to not drink heavily at all. No pros, only cons. But free country.
I bet the "MADD" women are behind some Democrat Legislation that MANDATES arrests for anyone who is DUI.
So you really dont think that the cops could at least keep up with a drunk dude long enough for backup to come? They were justified in this but shooting at the dude with a spent taser (ive never heard of one that can shoot more than once without reloading) was bad police work. Not evil or hateful, but not good either.
Officer Garrett Rolfe is a HERO! He is being unjustly vilified and we should stand up for him and let him and his family know they have our support.
Damn it just sucks for everyone involved in this. Everyone was polite and calm until the black dude just snapped. Only because he was drunk.
Of course you are going to try to explain your way out of a DUI I would do the same. Just sucked he had the impulse to grab the taser and run. Ugh. Cop did what her had to. Heartbreaking.
Drunk and apparently on parole. He was probably afraid of going to prison.
Great job on this!
Is it possible to charge a DA with attempted murder?
What astounds me is how the left keeps assuming that the officers should have just let the guy go after he assaulted the cops, stole their weapon and tried to fire it at them.
This criminal was violating his parole by driving drunk and the cops had a duty to arrest him and put his ass back in jail. He was a threat to society (drunk driving kills way more people per year than cops) and was breaking the law.
They had to keep pursuing him and attempting to effectuate the arrest which became increasingly dangerous after the fist encounter where he punched the cop, stole a taser and tried running. There was going to be a second close-combat encounter that was going to be incredibly dangerous, and what the left ignores is the fact that once that second close-combat scenario occurred, this guy was likely to go for an officer's handgun.
"For no fucking reason". We are in separate realities.
This makes me rage... If all the charges aren't dropped on this man I'm ready to fly my ass to Atlanta and "Protest"...
Seems to me NOBODY who watches this video can say with a straight face that this was a result of a racist cop, or systematic racism. This obviously has not one thing to do with anyones skin color.
He's not going to prison, unless he does something stupid. The Prosecutor over charged him, they will never convict on felony murder, it is planned that way. He'll go to court, win the case in the winter when it is too cold to riot. Is it right? idk. But there are good reasons I don't drink.
https://twitter.com/odonnell_r/status/1273373149317476357?s=20
ATL PD are walking off the job and refusing to answer the radio, even National Guard troops are doing the same! Fuck this DA!
If we stay silent, they may put this officer to death.
They charged the cop.
THEY CHARGED THE COP.
The war of good vs evil is here.
I just watched the whole thing until they shot the guy.
These officers deserve a medal. (Why can’t I get an officer like either of these guys when I get pulled over??) They demonstrated 100% professionalism and this asshole steals the guys taser and turns to shoot at them. What the hell did he expect?
And now these officers are being charged with MURDER?
Racism against whites is more than a problem. We should be rioting in the streets screaming “WHITE LIVES MATTER” and “POLICE LIVES MATTER.”
It’s time to get really, really outraged.
The DA got forced into a runoff last week... and came in second by a very wide spread. he’s been in office since 1996. Fuck him
But if Howard loses what happens to the charges? Seems to me the next DA goes forward because of threats of riots if he doesn't.
This guy Howard is a first class asshole.
Couldn't handle listening to the idiot dude yelling in the background saying "they shot him for no fucking reason" What a moron.
It’s crazy. They tried to save him.
You can tell this cop is terrified of dealing with this guy. As he should be. As a cop dealing with a black dude, you're either going to prison or the morgue.
Has nothing to do with black vs. white. I dont give a shit what race you or i am. You grab my weapon its over and time for self defense.
Brooks appeared to have an open warrant in Georgia for the original offenses of False Imprisonment, Cruelty to Children, Family Violence, Battery and Simple Battery. https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/06/revealed-rayshard-brooks-struggled-police-stole-taser-shot-police-likely-didnt-want-go-prison-based-prior-record/
Wouldn't the police have seen the warrant when they ran his driver's license? They would have to bring him in, not let him walk home or call for a ride.
Wait he had a warrant for all that? What were they doing for 30 minutes, was that ultra long line of questioning really important? He can't remember how many drinks.. why waste so much time trying to get him to say he had more drinks just do the damn test I don't get it.
Also I love Trump and I'm definitely not a libtard, but.. I don't agree that the officer was in danger, it was a stun gun, he should not have shot the man 4 times. If he was so intoxicated then they should've have just chased him and beat the shit out of him. Or maybe 1 shot, to the leg? He didn't deserve to die, but the officer certainly doesn't either. He made a bad split second decision, getting fired and 5 years probation is more than fair imo
You’re an officer armed with a gun and a taser. Someone takes your taser from you and attempts to incapacitate you with it, which would give them access to your firearm.
What do you do?
There are just too many moving parts here. If I was a cop right now, I would shirley be aware of the shit situation our country is in and therefore think twice about shooting to kill a dui suspect who did not have a lethal weapon who was running away.
The 40 minutes of talking was way too much don't they have better things to do? It should have been no talking, just sobriety test and arrest or no arrest. He said plainly "Im ready to go home" right before the officer tried to cuff him, didn't seem out of control. Maybe they should have given him the choice to walk home and leave the car or go to jail.
If I was a cop I would've known that trying to tase me while running away from me while being out of range would not incapacitate me, that it's more of a desperate move from an intoxicated person. In my opinion he was trying to get away, to "go home" , that sad attempt of trying to tase the cop back was a deserate act to slow the cop down enough so he can somehow outrun him and his partner. I think they will have a hard time trying to convince a jury Brooks goal was to incapacitate the cop long enough to steal his firearm, and then shoot them both down in front of all those people.
He wasn’t running away. If you are running away then you aren’t aiming and firing a taser at a cop. Why didn’t he just drop the taser and book it?
Ironically that’s probably what got him killed. The officers were going easy on him. Should have just tased him immediately instead of warning him.
Aim? I disagree if you look closer at the video Brooks fired right after he turned his arm and shot the taser way to the right of Rolfe, he wasn't even close. He was sloppily trying to get away from them seems to me, and not attempting to murder 2 police officers.. Is that what you are saying? They did seem to go easy on him at first, much easier than I've seen on similar episodes of Cops from the past, especially the first officer before Rofle came for "backup".
The being aware of the country's situation goes for both of them, Brooks was on probation right? What kind of maniac who has been through the system falls back asleep again after a cop wakes you up behind the wheel? Doesn't make any sense, he was odd and goofy the whole time, didn't really seem that wasted. It almost seems like he planned this whole thing, so that his baby momma and daughters would have some kind of a future from all the attention they will get - especially right now in "these times"
My buddy his dad got hit hard by the 2007 housing recession, he purposely overdosed on xanax and other meds, but made it look like an accident so his wife would get the insurance money and be taken care of for the rest of her life. Just saying stranger things have happened
Yes, aim, as in he pointed the weapon in the direction of the officers with the intent of hitting them with it. He was drunk, so not very effective, but the intent was there.
I'm not saying he was attempting to murder them, I'm saying that it could have easily escalated to that point. He wasn't exactly in a clear state of mind. If he would tase a police officer, how do you know he would not go further? We know he did not have the option in this case, but had he successfully incapacitated the officer, he would have significantly tilted the odds in his favor. Desperate people do desperate things.
I think he was acting as nice as possible because he was hoping to get off, like being allowed to walk home or something. He only snapped once the cuffs came out and he realized it wasn't going to work. I don't know if I agree about the last point. He couldn't remember which street he was on, or whether he was even in Atlanta. He couldn't keep his story straight about which drinks he had or how many. And during that sobriety test, he did not realize that he only took four or five steps rather than the nine the officer asked for. That's pretty damn drunk lol, although he handled himself fairly well in spite of it imo.
Really? This is not the movies.
Ok fair enough, I suppose that would be harder to do, and there's also the possibility of ricochets. How about a just a couple shots in the air that seems to get most peoples attention, then if the bastard keeps running he's obviously crazy and maybe should be put down.
I think he was unjustified in shooting brooks, I type that with a straight face, but at the same he was doing the job he was trained for. Would a long prison sentence bring justice to Brooks and his family? No, the guy shouldn't have been drinking and driving and should not have assaulted the officers. All around bad situation, but not racist.. Maybe for that reason this will red pill some of these lifelong dems in atlanta
The only wrong thing I saw the officer do was he littered. He threw the disposable mouthpiece from the breathalyser on the ground.
Other than that, this was textbook.
This case will be thrown out for sure.