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saveMySpeech 24 points ago +24 / -0

They did try to pin him though. At 41:35

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mykillk 63 points ago +64 / -1

Not really. You pin a guy with your knees into their back, neck, or head. Gee, wonder why they wouldn't want to do that???

You can see the cop even put him in a chokehold after he grabbed the tazer for a second but then let go. That's why he was easily able to get back up on his feet.

A few weeks ago there was absolutely no way that guy would have been able to get up. The cops would be smashing his face into the ground with their knees dug into his back like they're trained to do.

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JimmyJam 40 points ago +40 / -0

the police have been put in an impossible situation. they can save a life by using appropriate force, but then be fired or charged if that force looks bad on camera, or they can use appropriate force and if the person dies they get fired or charged with murder. There is no winning.

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Ingerimm 18 points ago +18 / -0

No kidding. Couldn't entice me into law enforcement as a job after watching all this. No pay is worth possibly being locked up for life for just trying to do your job.

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Tookens 9 points ago +9 / -0

That's why they are resigning in droves. Seattle's had over 30 resignations in the past few weeks.

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mikejones 7 points ago +7 / -0

Guess as a cop you need to be 6'6 and 275 pounds of pure muscle.

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krzyzowiec 2 points ago +2 / -0

And not give a damn. Those two could have subdued him but were not as rough as they could have been. I don’t blame them. They are in an impossible situation.

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kish-kumen 4 points ago +4 / -0

Couldn't pay me enough to work in law enforcement right now.

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TwoPlusTwoEqualsFour 1 point ago +1 / -0

How about not following orders for any amount of money?

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SoYuge 2 points ago +3 / -1

Don't worry they'll listen to their masters and arrest peaceful right wing people, though.

Feel not a lick bad for them.

What do you get when you betray, the only people who ever supported you, and ABANDON THEM AT EVERY TURN?

I'll tell you what you get. You get what you fucking deserve!

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GoingCamaro 1 point ago +1 / -0

Wrong. You do NOT pin someone on the neck. That is a technique that the military doesn't even allow when detaining people. There are better ways to control someone, but this dude was hopped up on something.

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somethinga9230k -1 points ago +1 / -2

Isn't it too dangerous to kneel into their neck? Back seems like it is (much?) safer to pin. And don't you risk putting too much pressure into the skull if you kneel on the head? But I am by no means an expert.

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BigPanda71 3 points ago +3 / -0

You do whatever you have to to win the fight.

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somethinga9230k 0 points ago +2 / -2

Very true. Though, if the fight ends up won, and there are multiple officers present, wouldn't you move your kneeling away from the neck, at least?

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WishdoctorsSong 42 points ago +45 / -3

They tried to be nice because the last time a cop used sufficient force to subdue a suspect who was also on massive amounts of fentanyl and meth we had a nation-wide chimp out.

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Nonocon 12 points ago +17 / -5

Yeah, floyd was going to die that day no matter what, he just happened to die in police custody. Hell, even if the cop didn't put his knee on his neck, he would have still died and these riots would have still happened simply because he was in police custody when he died. I bet his family is fucking loving this too, they are millionaires now...

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somethinga9230k 1 point ago +2 / -1

Wasn't the kneeling on the neck incredibly dangerous? While the case here with officer Rolfe should be thrown out since he did nothing wrong, the case with Chauvin seems extremely different and as far as I can tell possibly intentional murder (especially since Chauvin knew Floyd). George Floyd did still resist arrest, I recall him struggling his way out of a police car in one of the video segments, he was not a small man, and he had a long criminal record including robbery and home invasion. But kneeling on someone's neck for an extended time... and they likely knew each other...

See also https://www.quora.com/Why-do-police-put-their-knee-on-the-back-of-your-neck-when-cuffing-you and the answer by the account that claims the name "Paul Harding", where he describes that they try to avoid kneeling on the neck when putting on handcuffs.

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bonesaw_mcgraw 1 point ago +2 / -1

Crazy thought but I'm guessing his family would rather have him be alive instead of money, but who knows.

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TwoPlusTwoEqualsFour -5 points ago +2 / -7

This is the dumbest thing I've read this week.

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