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somethinga9230k 0 points ago +2 / -2

I am not a doctor, but... that sounds very off. And George Floyd did at least once say something like "I can't breathe". And do you have a source for:

There was no evidence of strangulation or damage to the tissue around the neck,

? And is that sufficient to rule out kneeling contributing or being the largest or by itself sufficient cause of death?

Wikipedia writes among other aspects this:

The medical examiner's final findings, issued June 1,[65] classified Floyd's death as a homicide caused by "a cardiopulmonary arrest while being restrained" by officers who had subjected Floyd to "neck compression".[66][67] Other significant conditions were arteriosclerotic heart disease, hypertensive heart disease, fentanyl intoxication, and recent methamphetamine use.[63][66] The report states that on April 3 Floyd had tested positive for SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, but does not list it as a fatal or other significant condition.[68][69]

Which describes "neck compression" as seemingly relevant from what I can tell. Though, that paragraph might be wrong.

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krzyzowiec 1 point ago +1 / -0

He said he couldn’t breathe while standing up as well.

Neck compression just means he put some pressure on his neck. If you read the actual autopsy, there was no damage to the neck muscle, no bruising.

He didn’t show signs of asphyxiation or suffocation, so his airway wasn’t blocked.

Given that info, there’s no way the knee contributed to his death, other than by adding to his stress at the time.

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somethinga9230k 1 point ago +1 / -0

I am not a doctor, but that... sounds very off, I must admit.

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somethinga9230k 1 point ago +1 / -0

Thank you, though, as far as I can tell, that does not quite answer fully the second question I had:

And is that [lack of injury] sufficient to rule out kneeling contributing or being the largest or by itself sufficient cause of death?

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Nonocon 1 point ago +1 / -0

From just looking at the reports and seeing everything else that was wrong with him at the time (4x the lethal dose of fentanyl (that alone is enough to kill someone) and methamphetamine, his heart condition, and the China virus), I'd say it's unlikely the kneeling was the largest contributing factor to his death. The guy was basically a dead man walking that day.

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somethinga9230k 1 point ago +1 / -0

I have heard rumours about George Floyd saying "I can't breath" before being pinned down, when he was standing up and resisting arrest, like going out of the police car. It still seems really, really off... and kneeling on the neck for so long... and them knowing each other...

I am not convinced that George Floyd was a dead man walking that day.