Did he fully follow the manual? And does the manual not also encourage officers to observe the situation and use their own judgement? Or is the manual that strict, and prescribe that police officers must follow it to the letter?
I don't see how "You act as if there are two options." describes my comments, at all.
While the person resisting arrest has not been pinned down, he is potentially dangerous to the lives of the police officers and others as far as I can tell, and the officers should have great freedom to subdue him as far as I can tell, whether it endangers the suspect or not (you should always respect police officers and not act dangerously towards them, it ought to be completely 100% obvious!........). But, if they do manage to get him down and pin him, and there are multiple police officers... then, after he stops moving and talking, wouldn't it make excellent sense to move the kneeling away from the neck and onto the back? And/or check that he is conscious and alive? Etc.? The kneeling was on the neck for a long time, including after Floyd stopped talking and moving.
If the knee touching his neck was applying no downward force, there would be no reason/benefit to moving it.
Checking his vitals is a different issue and I have no idea what they are trained to do about that and if they were negligent or not.
On the video he yelled "there's a knee on my dick" and the public is oddly not calling out that officer. It should also be noted that he never yelled "my neck hurts".
He wasn't making up moves. He was doing what he was trained to do. It's in the mnpls pd manual.
Did he fully follow the manual? And does the manual not also encourage officers to observe the situation and use their own judgement? Or is the manual that strict, and prescribe that police officers must follow it to the letter?
You act as if there are two options. Full body weight on neck, or knee not anywhere near the neck.
I don't see how "You act as if there are two options." describes my comments, at all.
While the person resisting arrest has not been pinned down, he is potentially dangerous to the lives of the police officers and others as far as I can tell, and the officers should have great freedom to subdue him as far as I can tell, whether it endangers the suspect or not (you should always respect police officers and not act dangerously towards them, it ought to be completely 100% obvious!........). But, if they do manage to get him down and pin him, and there are multiple police officers... then, after he stops moving and talking, wouldn't it make excellent sense to move the kneeling away from the neck and onto the back? And/or check that he is conscious and alive? Etc.? The kneeling was on the neck for a long time, including after Floyd stopped talking and moving.
If the knee touching his neck was applying no downward force, there would be no reason/benefit to moving it.
Checking his vitals is a different issue and I have no idea what they are trained to do about that and if they were negligent or not.
On the video he yelled "there's a knee on my dick" and the public is oddly not calling out that officer. It should also be noted that he never yelled "my neck hurts".
Also, you think that if a suspect goes limp, the officers should stop restraining him?
Every criminal that wanted to escape would simply go limp and then explode similarly to how Rashard did down in ATL when the cops release their grip.