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When you let the rowdy party run things for years it's only natural that people swing the other way and vote for the moral party. Sometimes things get a bit too rowdy.
Yeah. Whatever happened to them?...Rowdy...Pedes I see a link!
Remember 'Rowdy Roddy Piper' from yr childhood? Well he later starred in a cult classic film 'They Live'--which describes perfectly what we're experiencing today--Deep State monsters embedded in DC and the country's institutions, secretly networking with each other, controlling and destroying--while disguised as 'normal' everyday moral humans. You only get see who they really are, and read the REAL messaging, when y put on the special sunglasses which Rowdy's character does.
The Rowdies included many owners of distilleries, bars and brothels, and represented most of what the city was, especially as an outpost along the railroads. They existed in direct opposition to the Moral Party, which called for temperance and chastity.
Bro that's my station! I started listening to Dan OD when he was a fill-in host back in 2013. I had a minimum wage job where I could listen to music/radio all the time. Good times...
Reading that makes me think the demoralized doomers around here are overreacting. Seems like the Rs have been actually winning in a historical context and Ds have been more and more isolated into high population cities...
Generally, Republicans today are all pro-business and enterprise at any cost, no matter what it might do to the environment. Muh Coal, Oil, etc. Regulations bad. Profits good.
We used to be the party of outdoorsmen, naturists, etc. See: Teddy Roosevelt.
I'm not talking about Climate change hoax. I'm just talking pollution and toxic waste in general. Apparently we don't care anymore that our grandchildren have a clean place to hunt and fish...
True: but, in general, philosophically, very little has changed. Ask yourself, if there was a “party switch” (even though it’s completely unclear when you’d precisely define such a switch) would Woodrow Wilson and FDR be considered modern Republicans? Obviously not. They’re much more in line with Democrats.
There was a switch. How else to explain the North being Republican and South being Democrat, but then flip flopping to the reverse. But the switch is not as many think. It's complicated. The switch wasn't about slavery and segregation. And it wasn't really a switch. Both parties were re-born.
Pre-Civil War, Republicans were the party of emancipation, and Democrats were the party of slavery. But more importantly, Republicans were the party of expansive government power, social welfare, and settlement of the west. Democrats opposed big-goverment, and wanted a smaller federal government that didn't tell them what to do (hence why they wanted to secede from the union and form the confederacy).
Things stayed the same for a time after the civil war. But, as the south was now virtually destroyed and poor, they started becoming jealous of the Republican platform of big-goverment, social welfare, and settlement of the west. They wanted a piece of the pie, and slowly started adopting those Republican policies.
Enter 1933, FDR. He goes balls to the wall with The New Deal, looking to out-do the Republicans' support of expansive government power and social welfare.
Republicans were sickened by the new deal, and decided that now they were against big-goverment, because a Democrat was proposing it now. Nevermind that they were for it before.
And then, after 1933, Democrats slowly became more and more in favor of big government and social welfare, and Republicans slowly started being more against it. And that's where we are today.
TLDR:
Before civil war, Republicans were anti-slavery, but pro-big goverment. Democrats were pro-slavery, but anti-big government.
Shortly after civil war, Republicans stayed the same, and Democrats slowly became more like Republicans.
Long after civil war, Democrats became even more big-government than Republicans ever were, and Republicans became anti big-goverment, but not as anti-big goverment than Democrats ever were (pre civil war). Both parties eventually disregarded slavery and segregation issues as they were no longer relevant in modern America. But Democrats held on to their segregationist views for a long time.
This is why you don't see any Democrats driving around with the stars and bars on their pickups, but Republicans do... Even though the actual confederacy were Democrats. It's because Republicans eventually landed on being the party of smaller government and personal freedom, guns rights, etc. That's more important to a modern day southerner than slavery ever was.
I don’t agree with your framing of Republicans as “pro big-government before and after civil war until FDR” and that the Democrats were for small government during this period. What about Woodrow Wilson? What about the 20’s? During the late 1800’s, pretty much all presidents were for small government when we compare to today. The reason it looks like the parties switched is not because of changes in Republican positions, it’s mainly because of changes in Democrat positions. Republicans have always been against slavery and continue to promote black independence. The Republicans have always generally held pro-business positions. The Republicans have always held a similar perspective on the correct extent of government power. The Democrats, meanwhile, have constantly changed (Look at all the differences between Andrew Jackson, James Buchanan, Grover Cleveland, FDR, and Obama).
This is bullshit. Fighting over regulation doesn't mean Repubicans are against clean air and water. The 'Clean Air' act for example is climate change BS and Trump was right to gut it.
They blame Trump who has been in office for 3.5 years. Completely ignore blaming Biden, Waters, Pelosi, Schiff, Feinstein, and Nadler, who have been in office for decades.
"The Rowdies included many owners of distilleries, bars and brothels, and represented most of what the city was, especially as an outpost along the railroads."
Live in the Bay, can confirm. This is the most racist place I’ve ever been in my entire life. The old guard’s great, but all the new hyper leftist folks that showed up are inverted KKK members. They learned about the clan and mostly took away that they were persecuting the wrong race, not that racism is bad.
We’re a literal shithole now. People poop in the street.
Those of you in America can only imagine the Democrat corruption in Atlanta maybe only rivaled by Chicago. Just the corruption in the airport alone could fill a textbook. It is truly an affirmative action city from top to bottom
100%. The nepotism alone mimics what you would see in some garbage African nation. There are pockets of whites who leach from this corruption but most have fled the insanity
Dennis Hammond (December 15, 1819 – October 31, 1891) was born in the Edgefield District of South Carolina. He moved to Georgia where he was a lawyer and, from 1855 to 1861, judge in the superior court Tallapoosa Judicial Circuit.
In Atlanta after the American Civil War, he was politically influenced by William Markham and became a Radical Republican wanting Blacks to have the right to vote.
When Markham refused to run for mayor, Hammond did and was able to briefly unite working-class whites to win the office. This was the last-gasp of Republican power in Reconstruction-era Atlanta.
After serving one term as mayor, he moved to Orlando, Florida in 1880 where he died a decade later.
In the 1860 election, the democratic party split into two between the northern democrats and southern democrats over slavery, which assisted in Lincoln's victory because although the southern democrats got most of the south, they lost out on key north-south border states which could've gotten them a close victory which went to the northern democrats and constitutional union party, and they could've even flipped republican states if the democratic votes weren't split.
We're seeing the democrats split again, but not on location this time, but by where they are on the political spectrum. the social democrats and moderate democrats are gonna split within the next few election cycles, and it'll be glorious to watch.
We need a database to match state and city political affiliation, socio-economic factors, demographics, education and literacy, and crime rates. I'd like to see this year by year and to see how damaging democrats are to cities and states.
Fucking Nedom L. Angier in 1879 fucked it up so bad, that all of the other Majors had to clean up his mess and are not to blame for what happened.
Watch what happens, should Trump lose. NO future democrat would take responsibility for ANYTHING bad that happens. It would ALL be Trumps fault. But the good things would be owed to the Democrats from day one, of course.
Also, if Trump doesn't win, there won't be any american Moon Landing any time soon. I promise you that much.
There will only be ass-fucking done by the Chinese. SO go the fuck out and vote.
It's Democrat, not Democratic. Big difference. If Wikipedia weren't overrun with far-left busybody editors then that little edit might actually slip by.
Let's bring back that Rowdy party. They sound like a good time.
None doesn't even sound too bad. What's William M. Buttlicker up to?
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Looking at that list of mayors, I'm wondering where the party switch took place.
In imaginationland circa 6969
Let's bring back the Aggressive, Hostile, and Definitely Difficult Party. They sound like a good time.
The ADHD party. Lmfao I’m ded aggressive definitely hostile and difficult party
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I thought the moral party was good!
When you let the rowdy party run things for years it's only natural that people swing the other way and vote for the moral party. Sometimes things get a bit too rowdy.
running for potus
Trump Party = Rowdy Party?
I'm down with the rowdy party... Bunch of renegades
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_and_Rowdy_Party
Trump rallies can be rowdy parties but civilized
if we are going off of the name your party what they are concept i think its
trump party - rowdy democrat party - demons republicans - supine cowards
Honestly the Trump party sounds badass not even because of the man himself.
This guy fucks.
Sounds like the makings of a classic country song
Yeah. Whatever happened to them?...Rowdy...Pedes I see a link!
Remember 'Rowdy Roddy Piper' from yr childhood? Well he later starred in a cult classic film 'They Live'--which describes perfectly what we're experiencing today--Deep State monsters embedded in DC and the country's institutions, secretly networking with each other, controlling and destroying--while disguised as 'normal' everyday moral humans. You only get see who they really are, and read the REAL messaging, when y put on the special sunglasses which Rowdy's character does.
Had to look them up.
But the parties switched!! Those are all republicans.
You laugh but that's what they were teaching me in college - no lie.
We all were.
There is a lot of "dumbing down of history" for the expedient process of teaching an idea. Which naturally festers into a false truth.
Here's a decent article for the ignorant: https://newstalk1130.iheart.com/featured/common-sense-central/content/2018-05-01-the-myth-of-the-republican-democrat-switch/ --- even if you're well read on the topic, click the link and watch that ad LBJ ran. IT'S IDENTICAL TO THE STRATEGY TODAY.
They have no other fucking playbook.
Bro that's my station! I started listening to Dan OD when he was a fill-in host back in 2013. I had a minimum wage job where I could listen to music/radio all the time. Good times...
Dan O'Donnell, good man.
Reading that makes me think the demoralized doomers around here are overreacting. Seems like the Rs have been actually winning in a historical context and Ds have been more and more isolated into high population cities...
Name one general position which the Republican Party has ever changed its stance on.
The Republicans have generally philosophically stayed on the same position.
Corporate freedoms vs. Environment.
Generally, Republicans today are all pro-business and enterprise at any cost, no matter what it might do to the environment. Muh Coal, Oil, etc. Regulations bad. Profits good.
We used to be the party of outdoorsmen, naturists, etc. See: Teddy Roosevelt.
I'm not talking about Climate change hoax. I'm just talking pollution and toxic waste in general. Apparently we don't care anymore that our grandchildren have a clean place to hunt and fish...
True: but, in general, philosophically, very little has changed. Ask yourself, if there was a “party switch” (even though it’s completely unclear when you’d precisely define such a switch) would Woodrow Wilson and FDR be considered modern Republicans? Obviously not. They’re much more in line with Democrats.
There was a switch. How else to explain the North being Republican and South being Democrat, but then flip flopping to the reverse. But the switch is not as many think. It's complicated. The switch wasn't about slavery and segregation. And it wasn't really a switch. Both parties were re-born.
Pre-Civil War, Republicans were the party of emancipation, and Democrats were the party of slavery. But more importantly, Republicans were the party of expansive government power, social welfare, and settlement of the west. Democrats opposed big-goverment, and wanted a smaller federal government that didn't tell them what to do (hence why they wanted to secede from the union and form the confederacy).
Things stayed the same for a time after the civil war. But, as the south was now virtually destroyed and poor, they started becoming jealous of the Republican platform of big-goverment, social welfare, and settlement of the west. They wanted a piece of the pie, and slowly started adopting those Republican policies.
Enter 1933, FDR. He goes balls to the wall with The New Deal, looking to out-do the Republicans' support of expansive government power and social welfare.
Republicans were sickened by the new deal, and decided that now they were against big-goverment, because a Democrat was proposing it now. Nevermind that they were for it before.
And then, after 1933, Democrats slowly became more and more in favor of big government and social welfare, and Republicans slowly started being more against it. And that's where we are today.
TLDR:
Before civil war, Republicans were anti-slavery, but pro-big goverment. Democrats were pro-slavery, but anti-big government.
Shortly after civil war, Republicans stayed the same, and Democrats slowly became more like Republicans.
Long after civil war, Democrats became even more big-government than Republicans ever were, and Republicans became anti big-goverment, but not as anti-big goverment than Democrats ever were (pre civil war). Both parties eventually disregarded slavery and segregation issues as they were no longer relevant in modern America. But Democrats held on to their segregationist views for a long time.
This is why you don't see any Democrats driving around with the stars and bars on their pickups, but Republicans do... Even though the actual confederacy were Democrats. It's because Republicans eventually landed on being the party of smaller government and personal freedom, guns rights, etc. That's more important to a modern day southerner than slavery ever was.
That's not even true. Source: https://tinyurl.com/yah878lp
https://www.270towin.com/1860_Election/
Dat sums it up basically, Republicans wanted to do what was right
Dems naturally had to go the other way
Republicans realized Dat wid slavery n segregation no longer an issue, it Wud be better to stay focused on freedom
I don’t agree with your framing of Republicans as “pro big-government before and after civil war until FDR” and that the Democrats were for small government during this period. What about Woodrow Wilson? What about the 20’s? During the late 1800’s, pretty much all presidents were for small government when we compare to today. The reason it looks like the parties switched is not because of changes in Republican positions, it’s mainly because of changes in Democrat positions. Republicans have always been against slavery and continue to promote black independence. The Republicans have always generally held pro-business positions. The Republicans have always held a similar perspective on the correct extent of government power. The Democrats, meanwhile, have constantly changed (Look at all the differences between Andrew Jackson, James Buchanan, Grover Cleveland, FDR, and Obama).
This is bullshit. Fighting over regulation doesn't mean Repubicans are against clean air and water. The 'Clean Air' act for example is climate change BS and Trump was right to gut it.
Would go for Nuclear? MSRs for future Nuclear?
Taught me this since elementary school.
〰️〰️〰️〰️▶️ 🥅
Yet the parties didn’t switch in the nerthern Democrat for decades shitholes cities. Odd
The rowdy party, what a trip
They blame Trump who has been in office for 3.5 years. Completely ignore blaming Biden, Waters, Pelosi, Schiff, Feinstein, and Nadler, who have been in office for decades.
They don’t like him because he likes blacks.
"The Rowdies included many owners of distilleries, bars and brothels, and represented most of what the city was, especially as an outpost along the railroads."
So, if we want to change anything, vote Democrat?
The meltdown of democratic shitholes is honestly really enjoyable to watch. It's entirely because of their hubris and arrogance.
They're so much better. So much cultured. So tolerant.
Great fun to watch them .
Live in the Bay, can confirm. This is the most racist place I’ve ever been in my entire life. The old guard’s great, but all the new hyper leftist folks that showed up are inverted KKK members. They learned about the clan and mostly took away that they were persecuting the wrong race, not that racism is bad.
We’re a literal shithole now. People poop in the street.
Damn we got the wrong guyz, it was wypipo all along
Houston, Salt Lake City ... the list of even Red State metropolises that have the same problem is not short.
Salt Lake City is in the very early stages of its decline. Like Denver was 25 years ago or so probably.
I'd say the entire state is being transformed by illegal immigration. But that's everywhere.
1879 for y'all wondering
Also African American mayors since 1974.
You don't know how disappointed I was to DuckDuckGo "Rowdy Party" and find out it wasn't a party dedicated to the promos of Rowdy Roddy Piper.
I watched Jungleground and saw Rowdy Roddy Piper try to act.
It was an experience, and I regret nothing.
Watch They Live for Rowdys greatest performance
The take away from this is that everything is Trump's fault.
"Rowdy Party"? lol
Biden/Bottoms would look hilarious on bumper stickers
There's got to be a pattern here somewhere, but I can't see it.
Those of you in America can only imagine the Democrat corruption in Atlanta maybe only rivaled by Chicago. Just the corruption in the airport alone could fill a textbook. It is truly an affirmative action city from top to bottom
"Only Rivaled by Chicago?"
Listen here 'itch!
I'm outside a city that's perfectly fine with an autonomous zone.
Pretty sure it could contend in the Corrupt-o-lympics.
Is that why Atlanta sucks as a city, especially in terms of infrastructure?
100%. The nepotism alone mimics what you would see in some garbage African nation. There are pockets of whites who leach from this corruption but most have fled the insanity
So where do all of the whites live?
What was the Rowdy party?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_and_Rowdy_Party
They were the opposites of the temperance party
If any third party had a chance, it would be this one.
BTW we'd be considered the Moral Party.
I think we'd be a mixture of rowdies and morals.
PROGRESS!!!!!
The one Republican mayor:
Mayor of Atlanta 1871–1872
Dennis Hammond (December 15, 1819 – October 31, 1891) was born in the Edgefield District of South Carolina. He moved to Georgia where he was a lawyer and, from 1855 to 1861, judge in the superior court Tallapoosa Judicial Circuit.
In Atlanta after the American Civil War, he was politically influenced by William Markham and became a Radical Republican wanting Blacks to have the right to vote.
When Markham refused to run for mayor, Hammond did and was able to briefly unite working-class whites to win the office. This was the last-gasp of Republican power in Reconstruction-era Atlanta.
After serving one term as mayor, he moved to Orlando, Florida in 1880 where he died a decade later.
It’s Democrat*
Yep!
Yeah but DRUPMF
They've literally reached rock bottoms.
This was definitely Nedom L. Angier's fault!!
Notice ANYTHING, Dems???
Nothing to see here folks, move along.
Dennis Hammond wanted Blacks to have the right to vote. Of course he was a Republican.
141 years of one party rule, but the three and a half years with #orangemanbad as president is when the systemic racism started.
In the 1860 election, the democratic party split into two between the northern democrats and southern democrats over slavery, which assisted in Lincoln's victory because although the southern democrats got most of the south, they lost out on key north-south border states which could've gotten them a close victory which went to the northern democrats and constitutional union party, and they could've even flipped republican states if the democratic votes weren't split.
We're seeing the democrats split again, but not on location this time, but by where they are on the political spectrum. the social democrats and moderate democrats are gonna split within the next few election cycles, and it'll be glorious to watch.
One hell of a party switch. /s
Rowdy Party has held more terms than Republicans.
This list is racist
Also, maybe they can tell us when the parties switch lmao
We need a database to match state and city political affiliation, socio-economic factors, demographics, education and literacy, and crime rates. I'd like to see this year by year and to see how damaging democrats are to cities and states.
Fricking Nedom L. Angier. Look at this mess he started.
Imagine 140 years of democratic rule. Dear Lord.
BUT MUH PARTY SWITCH! HOW COULD THISE BE?!?!
The current problems in Atlanta are clearly the fault of #23, Nedom L. Angier.
Fucking Nedom L. Angier in 1879 fucked it up so bad, that all of the other Majors had to clean up his mess and are not to blame for what happened.
Watch what happens, should Trump lose. NO future democrat would take responsibility for ANYTHING bad that happens. It would ALL be Trumps fault. But the good things would be owed to the Democrats from day one, of course.
Also, if Trump doesn't win, there won't be any american Moon Landing any time soon. I promise you that much.
There will only be ass-fucking done by the Chinese. SO go the fuck out and vote.
Do you guys think they are trying to get cops to quit so when the "second wave" comes they will get new cops who will enforce their new rules?
They never let a good crisis go to waste.
But muh party switch
It's Democrat, not Democratic. Big difference. If Wikipedia weren't overrun with far-left busybody editors then that little edit might actually slip by.
Moral party must have fucked shit up
A friend of mine was murdered during a car jacking in broad daylight in Buckhead.
Ezzard rolled three separate terms, I wanna learn more about that. Plus, cool name.
Diversity is our strength
leftist: "Nah it was all that dude in 1877"
Nice work, pede! It should probably be made into a flag. I mean, if you got to replace the stars and bars, hard to come up with a better one.
Shocking stuff!!!
Wait, "Lance Bottoms" isn't one of y'alls nicknames for her?
Dems have only been in charge for ~140 years, we just need to gibe them more time to get it right guys!