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Imitate214 1 point ago +2 / -1

the Vatican

Conservative Catholics haven't listened to a word Pope Francis has said since he became Pope, partly because he hasn't said anything ex cathedra, which is the dogma that if a Pope says eomthing "from the chair" and follows a certain formula, it's required to be believed. The last time this happened was in 1950 when Pope Pius XII defined the dogma of the Assumption of Mary (Mary was assumed body and soul into Heaven).

The Catechism is not dogma, it is doctrine. The recent change to the Catechism wrt death penalty is at odds with the teachings of older Popes and Saints. Unless the Pope declares ex cathedra and follows a speific formula to define the abolition of the death penalty as dogma, we can safely ignore what Pope Francis has to say about it.

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OnlyAmerica 1 point ago +1 / -0

What happens when the Anti-Pope and his cabal of Vatican cardinals declare something ex-cathedra? What are you going to do?

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Imitate214 1 point ago +1 / -0

Well, it would depend on what they try to do. If they do something like declare Mary Co-Redemptrix, I could live with it and accept it. If they declare that homosexuality isn't a sin, they'd be heretics.

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4Christ 1 point ago +2 / -1

As a conservative evangelical, this makes me sad. Who gives the pope the authority to speak infallibly? The word of God clearly states that Jesus is the (only) "way, the truth and the life" (John 14:6). No man, however sanctified, can speak infallibly. I hope conservative Catholics realize that contradictory sources of truth (ie, the word of God, the catechism, and the pope speaking infallibly) can't be reconciled and that only one can be fully believed (I'd recommend the one that states clearly "All scripture is inspired by God" 2 Timothy 3:16). There are many resources online that show contradictions between the Bible and the catechism (ie, what saves us?), I'd recommend checking some out and trying to figure out for yourself how to reconcile the contradictions between things you hold as sources of truth.