What could be a better optics than (1) forcing him to see if his cops will actually try to arrest tens of thousands of Trump supporters, or (2) tens of thousands of Trump supporters (being seen nationally) thumbing their nose at his "orders" cos he's a little quisling bitch.
The police are already at the lowest point morale wise cross country, can't exactly see them being thrilled with the orders "Go arrest tens of thousands of people" especially when its all dems pushing hard to get rid of police.
And nothing will be done. We will just pack up and come back the day of. The world is on fire right now. Its becoming hard to watch. Things need to change. We need leadership.
There may be a good reason for this, the curfew may be for everyone's safety. It could be that the Mayor is acting upon knowledge of a terrorist threat either from the left or some deranged people against crowds of trump supporters.
Mayor G. T. Bynum announced the order Thursday evening, citing the expected crowds of more than 100,000, the planned protests and the civil unrest that has already erupted in the city and around the nation this month.
Bynum also said he's received information from the Tulsa Police Department and other law enforcement agencies "that shows that individuals from organized groups who have been involved in destructive or violent behavior in other states are planning to travel to the City of Tulsa for purposes of causing unrest in and around the rally."
Bynum said the order is needed to protect health and safety and preserve lives and property.
Maybe someone can play the legal devil's advocate. But, is the burden of proof not on him? If you make a claim "this is loitering, not assembly, and breaks the curfew" it is his duty to support that argument. The, make a claim and back it up later in court even though it will get thrown out and be too late to mean anything, strategy is complete trash.
The mayor does not have a valid argument. To turn it around on him, assembe anyway, ahead of time (as has been done at almost every Trump rally to date), potentially dealing with a legal respond at a later date knowing that it is unconstitutional and that the Mayor has nothing backing him.
Conservatives can not keep getting walked on because we want to "take the high road" and follow every government order, especially when the order is purely political in nature. We are not the side who ignores these directions and proceeds to defy the constitution and destroy tens of millions in property and thousands of lives.
We have the God given right to assemble, a curfew ordered specifically to prevent our support of our president, is beyond asinine. Especially without a valid argument supporting the order. Baseless and weak.
It is extremely imperative that people still go. We've been silent for too long. If we surrender to them now they will be too encouraged to continue. I really hope people show up in large numbers and do not allow themselves to be suppressed.
This!! They have to push back hard. America needs to see it. So important. Cowering down will embolden them more. I wish we can get updates from locals on this. It’s as important as the rally itself.
He is a coward, who can't take criticism for their fuckups. National We've been locked up, forced not to work, seen our fellow citizens livelihoods burned down and now our political actions hindered. Fuck this bespectacled waste of a cock drip.
9185967777 can call this number and be transferred to the mayors office if you would like to know why people waiting for the President were curfewed while ppl that were breaking into businesses and protesting for BLM were not
I look forward to your update on what happened at the rally. Because you have such a memorable name on here, I remember you have posted some very insightful comments on here in the past.
This is a true litmus test on where the elected officials in this country stand. If he does the same thing as with the riots, nothing, then fine by me. If he ACTUALLY has people arrested and put away then we know what's coming down the line in our future.
He doesn't want the Juneteenth March that goes close to the BOK to incite violence against the Trump crowd. It's an insult to the Juneteenth marchers... like they can't keep order. The people at the Trump Rally are the party that freed the slaves, ffs!
Tulsa is like all large cities, urban areas, over-ran with soy boys, liberals and assorted cucks. The media and education systems does the same thing to the people of Tulsa that it does to everyone else.
I kind of agree just go anyways. This is wrong and I think you could file lawsuits for discrimination if they did arrest you. DOJ needs to get involved too. Selectively applying these rules based on politics is NOT ok. This is 1st amendment stuff.
The only reason the Mayor did this was to curb the 1st amendment rights of Trump supporters
Fvck mayor P.T. Barnum. Go line up anyway.
What could be a better optics than (1) forcing him to see if his cops will actually try to arrest tens of thousands of Trump supporters, or (2) tens of thousands of Trump supporters (being seen nationally) thumbing their nose at his "orders" cos he's a little quisling bitch.
Hoaxtime is Over -- Open Up.
++ for 'quisling' Great word!
That is a 50cent word
This is the proper response.
Just ignore his draconian orders. Force his hand.
Will he dispatch police to beat and arrest innocent people?
The police are already at the lowest point morale wise cross country, can't exactly see them being thrilled with the orders "Go arrest tens of thousands of people" especially when its all dems pushing hard to get rid of police.
I’m asking police to resist the left and join the rally line in solidarity
And nothing will be done. We will just pack up and come back the day of. The world is on fire right now. Its becoming hard to watch. Things need to change. We need leadership.
Mayor needs to be sued. Discriminating against one set of people while ignoring others is unequal application of thee law for political reasons.
Apologies, when I read an article about this, it said Saturday.
The "protestors" didn't ask permission, and didn't leave when they were told.
There may be a good reason for this, the curfew may be for everyone's safety. It could be that the Mayor is acting upon knowledge of a terrorist threat either from the left or some deranged people against crowds of trump supporters.
spez: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/06/19/trump-tulsa-rally-curfew-imposed-mayor/3221319001/
So then send the police or national guard to protect the people showing up for the rally.
In that case, double or triple security. Send in the Secret Service and National Guard if it's too much for the cops to handle.
I think that may have just happened. I heard the curfew has been canceled.
Couldn't the line be considered an assembly? Aren't assemblies covered by the .... Oh dare I say it? :.... Constitution?
You'd think but no, its loitering.
It's not loitering. They are there on private property to attend a scheduled event and have lined up in an organized queue.
Oh I agree but thats what I've heard his excuse is.
Cool
Maybe someone can play the legal devil's advocate. But, is the burden of proof not on him? If you make a claim "this is loitering, not assembly, and breaks the curfew" it is his duty to support that argument. The, make a claim and back it up later in court even though it will get thrown out and be too late to mean anything, strategy is complete trash.
The mayor does not have a valid argument. To turn it around on him, assembe anyway, ahead of time (as has been done at almost every Trump rally to date), potentially dealing with a legal respond at a later date knowing that it is unconstitutional and that the Mayor has nothing backing him.
Conservatives can not keep getting walked on because we want to "take the high road" and follow every government order, especially when the order is purely political in nature. We are not the side who ignores these directions and proceeds to defy the constitution and destroy tens of millions in property and thousands of lives.
We have the God given right to assemble, a curfew ordered specifically to prevent our support of our president, is beyond asinine. Especially without a valid argument supporting the order. Baseless and weak.
Never thought of that!
I know you are doing devil's advocate:
Definition of loitering: stand or wait around idly or without apparent purpose.
Thus, a line would be considered an assembly!
So I believe, try as they might appears the Dems haven't destroyed it yet.
But it’s a peaceable assembly, so...
It is extremely imperative that people still go. We've been silent for too long. If we surrender to them now they will be too encouraged to continue. I really hope people show up in large numbers and do not allow themselves to be suppressed.
Yes indeed.
This!! They have to push back hard. America needs to see it. So important. Cowering down will embolden them more. I wish we can get updates from locals on this. It’s as important as the rally itself.
Recall petitionfrom before this latest diktat.
I try to send him a message but the site wont let me submit. It says my email is invalid. Which it is not
He is a coward, who can't take criticism for their fuckups. National We've been locked up, forced not to work, seen our fellow citizens livelihoods burned down and now our political actions hindered. Fuck this bespectacled waste of a cock drip.
And the outside Tulsa phone number- Call Customer Care 311 inside Tulsa City limits Outside Tulsa, please call: (918) 596-7777
Is he referring to the Trump Autonomous Zone?
9185967777 can call this number and be transferred to the mayors office if you would like to know why people waiting for the President were curfewed while ppl that were breaking into businesses and protesting for BLM were not
Thank you! I looked everywhere for the right number and couldn't find one, but this one worked. Told off everybody I could get on the phone.
Please make a post with this number and we can all call.
(I said it's pretty bad you people allowed thousands of blm insurgents but are attacking patriotic Americans who just want to see their President)
All of the black ticket holders should go line up and see if they're removed.
Good luck Patriot and I hope you have a great time.
Yeah baby!
I look forward to your update on what happened at the rally. Because you have such a memorable name on here, I remember you have posted some very insightful comments on here in the past.
If 'Minneapolis Protesters' were "mostly peaceful" then Trump Rallies are zen gardens.
What lame excuse did he come up with?
https://twitter.com/ArtValley818/status/1273825970273714187?s=09
The cop who was there said 6am SUNDAY
Here in NJ, it was "emergency pothole repair" in WINTER...
https://theridgewoodblog.net/bridge-gate-2-0-njdot-orders-timely-road-construction-impacting-trump-rally/
Phil Murphy is going down for killing NURSING HOME PATIENTS during COVID and most likely getting kickbacks too! 🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿
Wow, really?? How mean-spirited is that??
A yuge faggot.
He’s also a closet homosexual,(though nothing wrong with that choice)
Being straight or gay is irrelevant to being a faggot!
Well his party is about to be exposed for TREASON to cover up CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY so it's not surprising!
Just carry a ILT sign (I Love Trump) and call it a protest, you'll be home free.
I’d love to see an executive order for Tulsa specifically to override this! He can go on CNN to announce it.
This is a true litmus test on where the elected officials in this country stand. If he does the same thing as with the riots, nothing, then fine by me. If he ACTUALLY has people arrested and put away then we know what's coming down the line in our future.
He doesn't want the Juneteenth March that goes close to the BOK to incite violence against the Trump crowd. It's an insult to the Juneteenth marchers... like they can't keep order. The people at the Trump Rally are the party that freed the slaves, ffs!
Seriously.
Tulsa used to be boots and hats, now it’s asshats.
Tulsa is like all large cities, urban areas, over-ran with soy boys, liberals and assorted cucks. The media and education systems does the same thing to the people of Tulsa that it does to everyone else.
GO TO THE MAYORS HOUSE
Is there a based judge anywhere that can quickly rule this cuck fascist's "order" unconstitutional??
Probably not in time for tomorrow. Hopefully there are lawsuits and vote this buffoon
He has those problem glasses. If nothing else I'm glad Trump is smoking all these commie pinko faggots out of hiding
Cuck specs, the official eyewear of faggots everywhere.
How are they going to kick 1.000.000 people out of Tulsa?
The cops need to say "No Way!" They have to know what side has their back by now.
He says he'll be skipping the rally. This asshole is not a Democrat, he's a RINO.
True, a distinction without a difference.
UPDATE:
https://www.breitbart.com/news/tulsa-mayor-implements-curfew-around-site-of-trump-rally/
It's possible and plausible as fuck that rioters are on the way to Tulsa. Maybe I was being too hard on Bynum. We'll see.
UPDATE2:
I see Trump has taken him in hand and/or bitch-slapped him on this one:
https://thedonald.win/p/FzKacfHX/i-just-spoke-to-the-highly-respe/c/
What a disrespectful twerp.
And then punish his own side for it? For a freaking threat that could be one troll on some forum?
I wasn't sure before, but with the mustache I'm almost convinced that's Rachel Maddow.
The Adam’s apple is way too small.
Not sure, he should be removed from Office.
A thousand Tulsa-pedes need to just go line up outside the venue. If they can't arrest everyone, they can't arrest anyone.
Civil disobedience is justified.
I kind of agree just go anyways. This is wrong and I think you could file lawsuits for discrimination if they did arrest you. DOJ needs to get involved too. Selectively applying these rules based on politics is NOT ok. This is 1st amendment stuff.
The only reason the Mayor did this was to curb the 1st amendment rights of Trump supporters
He's just a little dick. Pure and simple.
Spin this around and say how dare he try to suppress holy Juneteenth, a holiday that's always existed.
disobey. they cant give citations to thousands of people.
Riot!!!!!
I'm a gay guy. Gay guys wear those glasses. He's not out I guess and he's a secret Democrat
Why the fuck is anyone even listening to this curfew?
I guess he doesn’t want double tulsas population to come spend money in his cities for days ahead of a big event.
LET HIM KNOW HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT IT: @gtbynum
I think the President recently posted that he spoke to the mayor already and that there will be no curfew.
If youre going to the rally - you need to line up and tell the commies to kiss your ass.
I'd love to go, unfortunately on call all weekend.
What a piece of shit
BLM and Antifa have shown us all that curfews can be easily ignored
Ignore it. Go anyway.
I say fuck it... let 50,000 people line up. What are they going to do, aren’t tens of thousands?
I literally saw the opposite story 5 minutes ago. I think we are being invaded.
These people are the gayest of the gay!
Vote him out!
Tulsa is a University town. This is what happens... the Republican's Mayors are RINOS. We have a liberal Republucan Mayor in Fort Worth.
Step one: Remove eyeglasses because they are fucking ridiculous looking. Step two: Give them to boyfriend's side piece. Step three: Profit.