Current fatality count is 952 - which compared to the US fatality count of ~ 100,000, that definitely means something fishy is going on
US has population of around 320 to 330 million, whereas Japan about 120 million - all in a rather small island nation. So Japan is densely populated.
So what does the US have such a high Wuhan virus death count relative to Japan?
Most deaths are among the elderly and lots of the elderly are concentrated in assisted care places - which those got targeted by certain Democrat governors for sending COVID patients to. They signed EOs to force nursing homes to take COVID patients - in defiance of federal guidelines that spelled out that nursing homes should only be used to offload COVID patients if is a facility protocol equipped to handle highly contagion patients (few to none are).
Based on Japan, the US fatality rate should be less than 3000 - Japan is probably pervasively using HCQ to treat COVID patients, and hence the very low fatality rate
hold up, their Case Fatality Rate from your link is about 5.4% and USA is about 5.3% using the John Hopkins site. So there's no discrepancy in the CFR. Are you talking about the confirmed cases being discrepant?
if you are still using the confirmed case/death rate at 5% then you obviously have been willfully ignoring the multiple studies that have shown that cases are underrepresented by like what a factor of 50 or something...these studies have proven that a huge portion of the population have been 'infected' and just do not know it because they are asymptomatic, easily 15-25% of the entire population or something like that... until every single person in the US is tested and even that won't be accurate because they'd have to test for antibodies, that actual % can not be known; the death count is the most important and if you can't see the difference between 1k and 100k then you are bursting from the ears with the leftist kool-aid
That is fine. Say USA was underrepresented by 50x because of Cuomo's antibody studies. Japan will also be the same, underrepresented by 50x as well if they do antibody studies. But that's not what OP is trying to show. He said there was a discrepancy that proves some numbers were made up. So I'm trying to figure out how that was concluded.
am talking about total population of Japan relative to total population of USA
and then total Wuhan virus fatalities of both countries
USA ~ 330 million
Japan ~120 million
USA Wuhan virus fatalities ~ 100,000
Japan Wuhan virus fatalities ~ 950
Japan is a small island nation, populations are much more dense - should be better conditions for Wuhan virus to propagate than US
USA went into lock-down and shutdown economy
Japan did like Sweden
For a nation that is about a third the population of USA but much more densely populated, why were their Wuhan virus fatalities likewise not about a third of their population?
If they had far lower Wuhan virus infection rate, then how was that achieved
my understanding is that Japan, relative to rest of developed nations, likewise has a higher percentage elderly population - the most vulnerable group for Wuhan virus potentially being fatal
Japan came out virtually unscathed - USA got hit rather hard by comparison
In US we know that Democrat governors, such as of New Jersey and New York states, defied federal guidelines (only offload Wuhan virus patients to nursing homes if said facility is protocol able to safely handle highly contagion patients). These governors issued EOs, under authority of pandemic emergency powers, that compelled nursing homes to take Wuhan virus patients even if not able to safely handle high contagion patients.
Everyone knew that the elderly demographic were the most vulnerable to this virus yet these governors knowingly sent infected patients into places where the elderly population were concentrated - ballooning the Wuhan virus fatality rate.
But Asian countries have already had practice runs at least twice with SARS and bird flus, so they are well versed with protective measures such as masks, ppe, hourly disinfection measures, contact tracing, etc. Maybe if it was their first trial, I would expect Japan numbers to be higher.
Coronavirus Disease (COVID-19) Situation Report in Japan
Confirmed cases of COVID-19 in Japan. Data provided by the Ministry of Health, Labor and Welfare.
By Kazuki OGIWARA (Toyo Keizai Online Editor)
Last updated: 21 June 2020
And so at this last time of updating, Japan has had only ~950 Wuhan virus fatalities
Also, if Japan has a pharmacological secret to success in certain demographics it's probably favipiravir - the antiviral Japan approved in 2015 or so for the treatment of novel coronaviruses.
The explanation is 1) trains and restrooms are clean in Japan, masks can't help you if the place where you wash hands is a cesspool, 2) Stay home means stay home, and while there were a few "alt-right" protests (who were orderly and social distanced) to the stay home orders, the real damage has been done by George Floyd riots, and 3) Japan is prepped. There was some toilet paper hoarding, but most Japanese have stock in case of earthquakes. They looked at panic buyers with derision... "Why aren't they prepared for three months in advance already? Shamefur dispray!"
I knew the left would do this. If the right sat tight and got coronavirus under control, they'd disobey stay home at all costs, and they did exactly that.
they did not enforce any kind of a lockdown whatsoever in Japan...because it is illegal...there aren't as many people on the streets, but they are not having to comply to the same lockdown/social distancing that is being enforced in the US...feel free to look it up
they did not enforce any kind of a lockdown whatsoever in Japan
I'm aware of this.
there aren't as many people on the streets
This is because stay home means stay home, unless you do need to go out. Going to work? Fine. Going to Pachinko? Stay home please. You don't live in Tokyo? Please don't travel into Tokyo. Japanese respect those orders and comply.
In Japan, the disease is contained. People did not get infected. Almost no one has antibodies. There is not herd immunity. Japan beat the spread, but masks are only a small part of that.
There's a whole lot that makes zero sense about this virus.
It's either highly contagious or it's not. Either Japan lowballed it's numbers or we over reported them. There is no way Mumbai has lower cases and deaths than New York.
Either Drs in NY were systematically murdering patients, or other countries stopped counting once they realized it was just the common cold, or more likely half of each.
It's highly contagious, but unlike most diseases the symptom profile is all over the freaking map with covid-19. The vast majority of "cases" will show they had it, but didn't have any noticeable or just very minor symptoms.
Homogeneous society that actually cares for each other. Isn't that shocking how good the west could be if we just cared about each other and valued what we have in common instead of telling about our differences?
same in my city. not one death due to jjst covid either, its only people with "severe additional health issues". the fun ones are "unknowns preconditions" these are people who died of car accidents with covid...
If they are evil, I actually prefer this situation because with all this chaos, destruction of capital, and death I want the baddies to be baddies and not extras from the film Idiocracy.
Here's a link to Japan's official COVID status web page:
https://toyokeizai.net/sp/visual/tko/covid19/en
Current fatality count is 952 - which compared to the US fatality count of ~ 100,000, that definitely means something fishy is going on
US has population of around 320 to 330 million, whereas Japan about 120 million - all in a rather small island nation. So Japan is densely populated.
So what does the US have such a high Wuhan virus death count relative to Japan?
Most deaths are among the elderly and lots of the elderly are concentrated in assisted care places - which those got targeted by certain Democrat governors for sending COVID patients to. They signed EOs to force nursing homes to take COVID patients - in defiance of federal guidelines that spelled out that nursing homes should only be used to offload COVID patients if is a facility protocol equipped to handle highly contagion patients (few to none are).
Based on Japan, the US fatality rate should be less than 3000 - Japan is probably pervasively using HCQ to treat COVID patients, and hence the very low fatality rate
Never forget: 1 week before they started dumping COVID+ people in nursing homes.
hold up, their Case Fatality Rate from your link is about 5.4% and USA is about 5.3% using the John Hopkins site. So there's no discrepancy in the CFR. Are you talking about the confirmed cases being discrepant?
if you are still using the confirmed case/death rate at 5% then you obviously have been willfully ignoring the multiple studies that have shown that cases are underrepresented by like what a factor of 50 or something...these studies have proven that a huge portion of the population have been 'infected' and just do not know it because they are asymptomatic, easily 15-25% of the entire population or something like that... until every single person in the US is tested and even that won't be accurate because they'd have to test for antibodies, that actual % can not be known; the death count is the most important and if you can't see the difference between 1k and 100k then you are bursting from the ears with the leftist kool-aid
That is fine. Say USA was underrepresented by 50x because of Cuomo's antibody studies. Japan will also be the same, underrepresented by 50x as well if they do antibody studies. But that's not what OP is trying to show. He said there was a discrepancy that proves some numbers were made up. So I'm trying to figure out how that was concluded.
am talking about total population of Japan relative to total population of USA
and then total Wuhan virus fatalities of both countries
USA ~ 330 million Japan ~120 million
USA Wuhan virus fatalities ~ 100,000 Japan Wuhan virus fatalities ~ 950
Japan is a small island nation, populations are much more dense - should be better conditions for Wuhan virus to propagate than US
USA went into lock-down and shutdown economy Japan did like Sweden
For a nation that is about a third the population of USA but much more densely populated, why were their Wuhan virus fatalities likewise not about a third of their population?
If they had far lower Wuhan virus infection rate, then how was that achieved
my understanding is that Japan, relative to rest of developed nations, likewise has a higher percentage elderly population - the most vulnerable group for Wuhan virus potentially being fatal
Japan came out virtually unscathed - USA got hit rather hard by comparison
In US we know that Democrat governors, such as of New Jersey and New York states, defied federal guidelines (only offload Wuhan virus patients to nursing homes if said facility is protocol able to safely handle highly contagion patients). These governors issued EOs, under authority of pandemic emergency powers, that compelled nursing homes to take Wuhan virus patients even if not able to safely handle high contagion patients.
Everyone knew that the elderly demographic were the most vulnerable to this virus yet these governors knowingly sent infected patients into places where the elderly population were concentrated - ballooning the Wuhan virus fatality rate.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2020/05/26/nursing-homes-assisted-living-facilities-0-6-of-the-u-s-population-43-of-u-s-covid-19-deaths/#26ae4e9a74cd📁 "Let that sink in: 42% of all COVID-19 deaths are taking place in facilities that house 0.62% of the U.S. population." [nursing home(s)]
But Asian countries have already had practice runs at least twice with SARS and bird flus, so they are well versed with protective measures such as masks, ppe, hourly disinfection measures, contact tracing, etc. Maybe if it was their first trial, I would expect Japan numbers to be higher.
as to Asian countries with lots of practice, that would seem to be China much more so than Japan
China is where ALL modern era viruses have been originating from
Makes one wonder, what's up with that?
Toyo keizai is a magazine bro.
Coronavirus Disease (COVID-19) Situation Report in Japan Confirmed cases of COVID-19 in Japan. Data provided by the Ministry of Health, Labor and Welfare.
By Kazuki OGIWARA (Toyo Keizai Online Editor)
Last updated: 21 June 2020
And so at this last time of updating, Japan has had only ~950 Wuhan virus fatalities
Also, if Japan has a pharmacological secret to success in certain demographics it's probably favipiravir - the antiviral Japan approved in 2015 or so for the treatment of novel coronaviruses.
libs will say Japanese ppl are probably immune cuz race
I think the explanation would be that 1) they're all used to wearing masks, 2) the people behave homogeneously and 3) they are healthier overall
even though mask can't prevent contracting something as small as the Wuhan virus
Respect the elderly and dont dump them in nursing homes.
The explanation is 1) trains and restrooms are clean in Japan, masks can't help you if the place where you wash hands is a cesspool, 2) Stay home means stay home, and while there were a few "alt-right" protests (who were orderly and social distanced) to the stay home orders, the real damage has been done by George Floyd riots, and 3) Japan is prepped. There was some toilet paper hoarding, but most Japanese have stock in case of earthquakes. They looked at panic buyers with derision... "Why aren't they prepared for three months in advance already? Shamefur dispray!"
I knew the left would do this. If the right sat tight and got coronavirus under control, they'd disobey stay home at all costs, and they did exactly that.
they did not enforce any kind of a lockdown whatsoever in Japan...because it is illegal...there aren't as many people on the streets, but they are not having to comply to the same lockdown/social distancing that is being enforced in the US...feel free to look it up
I'm aware of this.
This is because stay home means stay home, unless you do need to go out. Going to work? Fine. Going to Pachinko? Stay home please. You don't live in Tokyo? Please don't travel into Tokyo. Japanese respect those orders and comply.
In Japan, the disease is contained. People did not get infected. Almost no one has antibodies. There is not herd immunity. Japan beat the spread, but masks are only a small part of that.
this is why Bolsonaro carries a pistol.
fuckery-afoot
There's a whole lot that makes zero sense about this virus.
It's either highly contagious or it's not. Either Japan lowballed it's numbers or we over reported them. There is no way Mumbai has lower cases and deaths than New York.
Either Drs in NY were systematically murdering patients, or other countries stopped counting once they realized it was just the common cold, or more likely half of each.
It's highly contagious, but unlike most diseases the symptom profile is all over the freaking map with covid-19. The vast majority of "cases" will show they had it, but didn't have any noticeable or just very minor symptoms.
Elmhurst.
Their obesity rates are slightly lower than ours.
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Homogeneous society that actually cares for each other. Isn't that shocking how good the west could be if we just cared about each other and valued what we have in common instead of telling about our differences?
Is anyone hitting the second wave?
same in my city. not one death due to jjst covid either, its only people with "severe additional health issues". the fun ones are "unknowns preconditions" these are people who died of car accidents with covid...
Evil or incompetent?
If they are evil, I actually prefer this situation because with all this chaos, destruction of capital, and death I want the baddies to be baddies and not extras from the film Idiocracy.
Singapore also had 40,000 cases and ZERO deaths for anyone under the age of 40.
CNN: Obviously fraud to re-elect Trump.
CNN: Obviously fraud to re-elect Trump.