Can confirm. Had parent who worked at a grade school, this non disciplinary additude is prevalent across the board when dealing with students from broken familes with a lack of discipline at home. She would go to discipline students and the school wouldn't allow it with the excuse of "think of their house life". Our public education system has tied the hands behind the teacher's back and expects the teacher to fufill the role of the disciplinary at home... what the reddit post provides is a better understanding of what happens to our youth who grow up in non nuclear family unit homes with a supporting mother and father figure. And clearly, the state is no substitute!
I used to teach grade school in an inner city and you're spot on. We would constantly get the , "you'll never understand their home life" speech, like we all were silver spooned trust fund kids when we were growing up. The funniest thing that I ever did to piss off my principal (a horrendous woman that absolutely loved to mention on a daily basis that she went to Grambling University) was during a training we (the entire school staff) had to attend on poverty was instead of following the guidelines of the training simulation I told my group that we were going to "keep it real" and robbed the other participants, swindled them, shook them down for protection money, etc. At the end of the simulation the principal asked the group if they now understood how living in poverty was difficult. One teacher said, "Of course it is difficult. No one ever said that is wasn't, but when (Honkey_McCracker) and his gang took advantage of the situation and preyed on the people it made it much worse." I'll never forget what my principal said next. She said, "I never told y'all to act like a bunch of niggas up in here!" You could have heard a pin drop when she said that(this wasn't the last time we would hear her use racial slurs). I said, "We were just taking it a step further and pretending like it was real life." Well, that was the end of that training and we didn't have any more like it while I worked there.
In my first NHS meeting back in high school they did a “diversity awareness” training exercise where we all got random races and had to do some bullshit and talk about how we felt being that race afterwards. I treated it like the joke it was and just talked to girls but this black girl who got “white” talked about how privileged she felt and how easy her life was, so I decided on my turn to talk about how great it was to be held to a lower standard and get into schools with lower scores and have people excuse my behavior because they expected less of me. We didn’t do that again the next year lol
She would go to discipline students and the school wouldn't allow it with the excuse of "think of their house life".
That is exactly why you should be disciplining them at school. Where else will they learn how to behave if not at home? I just view it as pure evil now, this gooey soft-touch attitude.
What should happen is schools should be run by tough men who want to maintain order. The students should be terrified if they’re told they will be sent to the principal’s office for misbehavior.
The teacher can try that, but most of the time the reason the kid is so screwed up is because the parents aren't raising their kids properly to begin with.
Can confirm. Had parent who worked at a grade school, this non disciplinary additude is prevalent across the board when dealing with students from broken familes with a lack of discipline at home. She would go to discipline students and the school wouldn't allow it with the excuse of "think of their house life". Our public education system has tied the hands behind the teacher's back and expects the teacher to fufill the role of the disciplinary at home... what the reddit post provides is a better understanding of what happens to our youth who grow up in non nuclear family unit homes with a supporting mother and father figure. And clearly, the state is no substitute!
I used to teach grade school in an inner city and you're spot on. We would constantly get the , "you'll never understand their home life" speech, like we all were silver spooned trust fund kids when we were growing up. The funniest thing that I ever did to piss off my principal (a horrendous woman that absolutely loved to mention on a daily basis that she went to Grambling University) was during a training we (the entire school staff) had to attend on poverty was instead of following the guidelines of the training simulation I told my group that we were going to "keep it real" and robbed the other participants, swindled them, shook them down for protection money, etc. At the end of the simulation the principal asked the group if they now understood how living in poverty was difficult. One teacher said, "Of course it is difficult. No one ever said that is wasn't, but when (Honkey_McCracker) and his gang took advantage of the situation and preyed on the people it made it much worse." I'll never forget what my principal said next. She said, "I never told y'all to act like a bunch of niggas up in here!" You could have heard a pin drop when she said that(this wasn't the last time we would hear her use racial slurs). I said, "We were just taking it a step further and pretending like it was real life." Well, that was the end of that training and we didn't have any more like it while I worked there.
In my first NHS meeting back in high school they did a “diversity awareness” training exercise where we all got random races and had to do some bullshit and talk about how we felt being that race afterwards. I treated it like the joke it was and just talked to girls but this black girl who got “white” talked about how privileged she felt and how easy her life was, so I decided on my turn to talk about how great it was to be held to a lower standard and get into schools with lower scores and have people excuse my behavior because they expected less of me. We didn’t do that again the next year lol
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That is exactly why you should be disciplining them at school. Where else will they learn how to behave if not at home? I just view it as pure evil now, this gooey soft-touch attitude.
What should happen is schools should be run by tough men who want to maintain order. The students should be terrified if they’re told they will be sent to the principal’s office for misbehavior.
What happens if the teacher reaches out to the parent? I would think the parent might care about the child's success.
The teacher can try that, but most of the time the reason the kid is so screwed up is because the parents aren't raising their kids properly to begin with.