This School year, students from Macolm X Shabazz HS assulted their own basketball coach after a game vs Livingston HS. Both are in New Jersey and these Schools are only 12 miles apart. They could not be more different:\
SPOILER ALERT!!! ITS NOT ABOUT FUNDING!!
Article about assult: https://abc7ny.com/newark-malcolm-x-shabazz-high-school-new-jersey-assault/5908704/
This story made me research both schools:
Malcom X HS DATA: 1/10 on Great Schools; (91% black, 8% Hispanic and 1% White); 11 students per teacher; 61% graduation rate; 52% pursue four year college, only 15% return for 2nd year of college; 846 avg SAT, FOLLOW THE MONEY--- Total District Spending: $958 MILLION; $22k per Student, Average Teacher Salary $84,900; Funding SOURCES: 11.5% local, 83% State, 5.4% federal
Livingston HS: 8/10 on Great Schools; (64% white, 26% Asian, 4% Black); 11 students per teacher; 96% graduation rate; 93% pursue four year college, 84% return for 2nd year of college; 1240 avg SAT; FOLLOW THE MONEY--- Total District Spending: $115 million; $19k per Student, Average Teacher Salary $80,100; Funding SOURCES: 85% local, 13% State, 1.4% Federal
Funding source data: https://www.nj.gov/cgi-bin/education/csg/16/csg.pl (old data but all thats available and follows current trends)
Great Schools Data: Malcolm X; https://www.greatschools.org/new-jersey/newark/1321-Malcolm-X-Shabazz-High-School/#Race_ethnicity*College_readiness Livingston: https://www.greatschools.org/new-jersey/livingston/997-Livingston-Sr--High-School/
I spent a year teaching in an inner city school.
And what a complete waste of a year it was. My sympathy is completely dried up, and they're lucky there are still people willing to deal with them. And now that they've declared a war on cops, their "communities" are going to get even worse. And they deserve it.
I had a history teacher in HS (worst school in the capitol city of my state) that refused to even teach but one day per week.
He put the week's worth of work on the chalkboard. It was up to you to read the material for the week. Every Friday there was a quiz. Otherwise, he sat there reading his books.
At first I was like WTF. Then later I thought he was smart. Why waste his own time teaching material that no one wanted to learn? Why not just leave it up to them, and if they wanted to learn they would do the work.
Totally relate. By the end of my year in the hood, I had identified only a single (Asian) student who actually gave a shit about anything. So I directed all my efforts toward that one kid. And he was the single redeeming aspect of the entire experience. I bet that kid is doing great now, and that all the other kids in that class are now either in prison or dead, having left countless victims in their wake.
[speaks in Latin Cartman] "how can I reech deez keedz?"
LOL that was a great episode.
But the truth is that it's easier to teach a pig to tapdance. And there's little chance that the pig will assault the teacher or spend their life in prison, like a big chunk of my former class. Schools in the hood are simply waiting rooms for prisons. A total waste of taxpayer money.
I grew up in the projects. I’m here to tell you it’s not about schools or spending. IN the 80s, I was bussed across town to be the minority and ‘integrate’. I went to the same schools and later In childhood, lived in the same projects AND went to the same schools across town. If anything, having to get up much earlier to catch a bus that literally drove you all the way across the city was a huge disadvantage. (Opinion: my presence as a white dude in the minority in these schools did nothing for the black students betterment of education)
It’s a culture thing. It’s a not having fathers in the household thing. It’s a mother’s allowing their children to run wild and free in the streets thing. It’s a lack of discipline as a child thing. It’s a peer pressure thing.
A common trend in impoverished neighborhoods is that misery loves company. If you do something to try and better your life, you experience immense pressure to fall in line with the majority and do what they do. Dress like they do, talk like they do, act like they do. Sometimes others will actively and intentionally sabotage your efforts to escape and succeed. Other times, circumstances of living in that environment - not directed specifically at the target - hold you back.
I lived it and grew up in it. It’s a fact.
I agree it's nuts. They're talking about disbanding the police when we should be disbanding these neighborhoods. People can blame race or racism but as soon as anyone can get a few bucks together they move the fuck out. Black people included. Thats the real issue. It's a cycle of poverty and crime. Money won't fix a broken culture. All the money that goes into these places just goes into the hands of corrupt politicians.
I am not, LOL.
A researched and sourced post? Get out of here with those hate facts!
It’s almost as if aimlessly throwing money into the school system doesn’t help. Weird, man.
LOL
Liberals: Why doesn't raising taxes solve this problem? It must be racism! REEEEEEEEE!!!!!
yeah I went to high school out in Morris County, we played Shabazz once year before I went there in a playoff, we won but they were dirty AF and like East Orange would automatically forfeit if the game could not be moved from friday night to saturday afternoon because if they got back to their place late at night the players had no one to escort them home and would get attacked by gangfags.
East Orange, Shabazz, Weequahic (part of Newark) are all shit holes. we played Weequahic once and during halftime we just kept to ourselves in the one corner of the field and their marching band came down. Their "drill team/color guard" if you could call it that were a bunch of skanky black girls, black as the ace of spades, wearing semi-sheer white leotards. gross.
It would be very enlightening to see what the relative family structure of each school looks like. There's probably a strong correlation between single parent families and the garbage you see in one school but not the other
Yep.
I see SO MUCH segregation in NJ schools and its 100% by choice.
Poor White, Asian and hispanic familys would rather live 5 people in a studio apartment in a better school district than go to Malcolm X Shabazz. That's the only way I can explain the data and the lack of diversity I see in the schools.
always with the excuses
I don't believe the average SAT score- that's better than the average private school. How are there zero Asian students at Malcolm X high and zero Hispanics at Livingston?
Also, 12 miles is a lot. Park Avenue is literally across the street from Harlem. So tbe 12 mile proximity doesn't really prove a point.
They changed the SAT to have three sections now. I believe a max score is now 2400.
Come to NJ and you will see, there are in fact ZERO Asians in Newark. At least they would never let their children go to school there.
Livingston HS is 4% hispanic.
I belive these scores are correct based on kids I have worked with in the region.
Here is another very similar suburban HS about 10 miles away: Milburn HS: https://www.greatschools.org/new-jersey/millburn/1181-Millburn-Sr-High-School/
AVERAGE SAT 1326 63% white, 25% Asian, 6% Hispanic and 2 % Black (4% two or more race)
Spending per student: $19k Funding source: 85% local, 13% State and 1% Federal
So- the school is the government no? You trust government numbers? Ok. I taught in public schools-- they completely fuck with numbers. As such, kids don't have an obligation to report their SAT scores. I would wager that they take the scores of the kids that go to the better private and state schools.
All these fucking schools either lie about the SAT or the test has been rendered useless. The average score at Rutgers is 1300. Lol. All the way until the mid to late 90's, that's damn near an IVY league worthy SAT score. Yet, somehow, we are to believe that is the average score for a Rutgers student? Especially when you know the difference between a 1300 to 1500 is 15 questions or so.
I went to an Ivy League School, 1300 is not the average score. More like 1450-1500. I belive the score from Livingston/Milburn is accurate based on students I have worked with and their scores.
I can't say if the scores from Macolm X Shabazz are accurate, I've never had a student from that school.
The irony is the Asain parents dying to get their kids into Ivy league schools SHOULD put their kids into Malcolm X Shabazz. Excelling at a underperforming public school is GOLD to the Ivys.
Private schools are not always better than Public Schools. New Jersey and NYC have some Amazing Public Schools.
My point is that when we equalize funding/teachers/salary through more state and federal funding we don't get anthing NEAR equal results. Funding is not the issue.
The facts are all available on Great Schools or Niche. In every City in America. Check it out.
Also, for the funding year available that I review:
Malcolm X/Neward Budget Surplus: $0 Livingston HS/Livingston District: $936k surplus
Yes, I'm sure Livingston can raise major bucks through the PTA but "poor/under performing schools" are sucking up those federal and state tax dollars with nothing to show for it.
SO WHERE IS THE SYSTEMIC RACISM when these schools have EQUAL FUNDING EQUAL STUDENT/TEACHER RATIO EQUAL TEACHER SALARY
WE CANNOT ALWAYS GUARANTEE EQUAL OUTCOMES, SORRY!!!!
The Saddest part of tha data is 52% of Malcom X Shabazz students pursue 4-year college but only 15% return for their second year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This tells me they are Affirmative Action Admissons who fail out or quit. So what's the point of all the state and federal aid AND Affirmative Action to get them to college??
That's not what happens. These kids apply to community college to get the pell Grant and then drop out the first semester and pocket the money.
Didn't even think about that but very true. This country bends over backwards to get African Americans into college. We don't care about Results!!! Just take our money!