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K-Harbour 3 points ago +3 / -0

Check 1917 Russia, this is a proven successful technique....

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual_power

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Mynamesprivate 1 point ago +1 / -0

Well thats sobering.. however, we might be lucky and have california secede, just like last time the democrats seceded. As long as they dont attack federal military bases (ie the south shot first, which created the rally around the leader effect for lincoln), i think Trump can navigate this away from war.