It is a stupid statue, but on a positive note people in the neighborhood make sure his hand is painted red as symbolism for the bloodshed. Not sure how many of the actual commies realize though...
I would say something like this is exactly how we solve our statue issue. Of course the statues aren't there to honor horrible people, but we can't tear down our history. Give an extra emphasis to the horrors the statue represents, make it unavoidable. Turn it into a warning, not empty pedestal and a forgotten past.
Lenin is, unfortunately, a part of world's history. His crimes started something that affected greater part of the last century. Those crimes need to be talked about much more than they are.
I think its about 5x, this might be an unpopular opinion, I still wonder why we sided with Communists who did more damage to the world and handed them half of Europe afterwards.
When I am weaker than you, I ask you for freedom because that is according to your principles; when I am stronger than you, I take away your freedom because that is according to my principles. - Frank Herbert
Then in 50 years when they've torn all the statues of anyone they disagree with and only statues of Lenin, Mao and Desmond is amazing are left standing we can rest assured that we didn't upset anyone and everyone learned that Lenin wasn't so great after all.
beautiful! patriots set up an autonomous zone around the Stalin statue (different part of Seattle than CHAZ). The mayor has to let it go right? They can have guns right?
While occupying the area, pull down the status on live streaming. Mayor has to let it go right? But also melt it down and make it a Trump statue. The will of the people, right? :)
But what if you melted it down and made slugs from it, then shot commies with those? Be kind of ironic not only to have Stalin responsible for a few more deaths from beyond the grave, but more so by doing away with this new batch of commie wannabes.
Not really my decision or opinion, but that definitely does have a more useful use than just trying to make another. If we are to make statues and all we should at the very least put data, history, and such about the period and make full use of it instead of a small portion.
I think cave paintings would be a good example in that it was used to transfer visuals with oral knowledge, but a more modern take of it might be best found in a video game: Skyrim: Alduin's Wall.
It gives a better representation of what I mean if needing to build statues at least in my opinion.
I'd be more for it, if it was early on, tbh. Right now it just seems more like a virtue signal by the wrong side than a real action. Their hearts are in the right place, but the damage is done.
So we’re just going to let them keep destroying the cities? FUCK THAT. Maybe a bunch of white gun toting rednecks is exactly the optics we need for conservatives to get off their ass and actually live up to all of the 2A tough guy rhetoric over the last few years. If someone told you three years ago that the left would totally melt down and unleash a domestic terror attack against every major city, wouldn’t that be justification enough for us to actually use the 2A to defend the country?
This. Not my tribe, not my problem. They come to my neighborhood, you damn right I will use proportionate force in self defense if necessary. But if they're vandalizing some downtown Seattle law firms, art galleries, or NGOs that hate me, that's no sweat off my back. Might even red pill a bunch of complacent fence sitters out there.
Obviously the neighborhood hasn’t gotten enough of what Chop has brung them. Let the 33,000 residents of that area decide when they’ve had enough. Clearly, they haven’t gotten enough or they’d be forming their own patriot force to push them out.
If you said any other city than Seattle, then yes. But they voted for this. Let them suffer. If you're in Seattle, I extend you a warm invite to move down to Austin! Plenty of gun ranges, good barbecue, and women who actually are attractive and shave their legs and conduct proper hygiene.
So go do something about it. Wtf is up with all the we talk around here. This is the party of individuals. Go fucking do something if you care about something.
Wrong. Sucking their dicks will not make them stop. Just believe it.
You all are so afraid of being called names that you are willing to fuck over America without even objecting.
Do you think that the people who are controlling Chop Zone are afraid of being called names? These are the people who are winning, and they are gun toting commie fucks. They attack innocent people, and get away with it because they have strength and courage to do what they want...THAT is what makes good photo ops.
The people who control CHOP are DNC shill operatives. The 'protests' will dry up and go away when:
The right doesnt take the bait, and
The focus groups show public sentiment is against the protesters.
Remember the daily riots & confrontations in Portland in 2017? Remember the police standing around doing nothing? The same setup now - only taken one step further by having a 'no police' occupied area.
Trump didn't take the bait in Portland, and it quietly disappeared down the memory-hole. Seattle will do the same when #1 & #2 above happen.
There are no white racist groups in America - outside of a collection of three or four deep in the New Mexico desert. So, the left have to bait people into reacting to disorder in the attempt to gas-light as 'white extremists'.
The people in Seattle can only tolerate so much before the democrats in charge have to do something. Just let it play out on its own.
I agree with them needing to go, but I also see the problem of the Proud Boys and any other group showing up and then their being blood shed. It's going to turn into another Charlottesville and the media will just spin it against us. The left thrive on being victims. I think it will just empower them.
I think the smart choice here is to let them deal with it on their own. THAT SAID... if they came to your neighborhood thats a different story.
So go do something about it faggot. If you care about it go do something. I don't care about riots or lockdowns or any of this shit because I am flourishing. If I did I would easily do something cause I'm an individual and a man. Ridiculous around here.
• This is the picture perfect example of the shitshow Dems want
• This will GET people out to vote, there are a lot of passive MFers that sit on their ass during election time (hense why Trump was elected – people got out!!)
• As Neil said above, this isn’t a community worth our effort
• Lastly, if/when it moves to a Red territory, you will see different results
I understand your anger, and I know there will be a reaction for all they do. But we need to be smart about it, if you turn violent it justifies them and will turn them into victims. They thrive of being victims,
But again I don't know what the best option is. I say our side protesting is the best option but a lot of people are scared of them. They have a lot to lose, they have families to worry about. These people don't they are so sure that they will be protected legally that they do not fear legal repercussion.
Endless supplies of money, lying media, mayoral/city support, no arrests, no calls for their dismemberment, no one even insults them...pray, what is there to exhaust them??
The CHAZ will be a thorn on BLMs political aspirations side. Don't interrupt your enemy when they are doing a mistake.
If anything we need to make sure people remember and realize this is all connected to BLM, that they are not just some random ass people supporting BLM or writing BLM. BLM is the root of all this and we need to make sure we make that connection and are able to objectively prove it.
Oh fuck that shit. We are so far beyond them looking or not looking like victims. These commies have MURDERED our citizens. The soon we put our feet down, the better.
This is the wrong hill to die on. CHOP/CHAZ are basically jokes in the big picture. If theres ever a time for patriot intervention it should be: defending stores/suburbs from looting, or government overreach.
Where have THEY been? Is my point. They arent fighting the real battles. Theyre fighting a pointless battle, but are nowhere to be seen where it really matters.
No worries, but yeah. Wish these guys showed up during the hardcore lockdowns a month or two ago. Things have gotten a lot better recently (lockdown wise).
No matter what happens in this, Raz needs to be put down like the rabid dog he is. If he hasn't already fled. He belongs beneath the prison, not in it.
Fucking guarantee you leftists aren't going to manage to charge him with a single crime despite being on camera committing multiple felonies.
Saw a twitter thread talking about how he may be involved in prostitution/human trafficking. Some compelling starter evidence. Hope somebody follows up on it.
Oh he'll run. The guy is an Airbnb super host and managed to buy a Tesla, clearly he has investments. The power vacuum created by limp wristed commie fags was a great opportunity he recognized, but I'm assuming he's just as smart with an exit strategy.
I mean if he was smart I don't know why he'd blatantly be on film handing out free guns (a felony in Washington, which has UBCs) or assaulting multiple people.
If true (re: his rumored business interests) it would appear that Raz has been taking good advantage to the opportunities that Capitalism has presented to him.
So if we DO end up using force to retake CHAZ...it can't be we lob a few tear gas grenades and tell them to go home. First need to cordon the entire area. Nothing gets in, nothing gets out. Then, we clear it one block at a time, just like Fallujah or Ramadi, and mass arrests. Everyone gets a charge. Raz gets the big time charges but everyone gets something.
No no, don't do this. This is blowing up in the face of every Democrat who supports this shit. Never interrupt your opponent when they are making a mistake, especially one this big :) It only took a couple of weeks to devolve into racial segregation, and I've gained weight from the popcorn consumption at this point. This is better than reality TV :)
I don't know what the right move it. If someone acts, it's bad optics, if they don't, it's bad optics. Journos should hang and so should the people who support CHAZ.
The CHAZ dumpster fire is a redpill dispenser of epic proportions. Shutting it down will allow the democrats to get victim points for the next victim olympics, while letting it continue basically makes it the mayor's responsibility. She'll have to deal with the lawsuits that follow (I would hope)...
Of course these assholes can be faced and you won't need millions of people to do so. The problem is how the media will spin the resulting bloodshed. It can be avoided, by just letting them tear each other apart like the rabid dogs that they are. So far it's all contained in one lawless zone, and even the inhabitants of CHAZ have the 2 neurons necessary to GTFO when there are daily shootings and racial tensions spiking up the wazoo.
So far this is the best outcome for the Republicans. Democrat policies resulted in this shit show, destruction, deaths, IN THEIR STATES. This opens the eyes of so many people. Any kind of interference will allow the fake news media to show how oppressive literally Hitler government brutalizes the peacefully protesting saint dindonuffins.
Well, he can't MOAB CHAZ, now, can he. These are Americans we're talking about, and the public won't take it nicely if blood is shed. Even if it's blood of communists and anarchist shits.
I got normie right friends in Portland who are now openly saying send in the military. I only secretly thought that to myself during Occupy. The Overton window is shifting.
And now we just have to wait until the media will try to frame CHAZ as a Trump admin deep false flag OP, and Raz' real name is actually Boris Grigoryevich Baklazhanov, sent to Seattle directly by Putin himself to help Trump.
Those pesky Russian hackers strike again!! I heard that Raz was using the wifi at all the local Starbucks shops in the area to hack the election once again!!
I mean, I'm not going to do shit unless my family is in danger or whatever. I want to see them get fucked up, but I do see the use in letting them make idiots out of themselves.
Yes, I think they're being hyperbolic. But the MSM should answer for its unethical behavior (in a legal manner). For instance, if ABC hadn't spiked this story, Epstein may have been brought to justice years sooner and many victims may have been spared. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjwf9F_v5cI
How about Trump offering all availability if only the Mayor asks. All ready to go at a moments notice if she only asks.
If she continues then he can say the Democrats keep refusing aid even when it is ready to go at a moments notice, and if so he can, also, say that I am ready to help to make this nation stronger and better from these terrorists that have imprisoned and taken hostage a city in Seattle.
EDIT: Took out Democrat-ran because the more I though about it the less it sounded like help and more like blame which would make the situation worse instead of better. By taking it out it sounds like a person willing to help the American people instead of just assigning rightful blame which would only exacerbate the problem.
I'm pretty sure that's exactly what he's doing. Didn't he offer to help Seattle and she said some woke stuff about "go back in your bunker" on twitter to POTUS?
Yeah sure, and the Patriots just let the British defeat themselves, and voila, we had a free country.
Don't care what the MSM blasts on the screens one bit. Nobody cares. End this shit for once and stop letting these people actually lay siege to America. People are actually hurt by this stuff, it's not just "omg Democrats are showing their hand" nah.
50/50 on this. We need to show some organized strength at some point but maybe this isn’t the battle. I would prefer this energy be directed at say future Trump rallies and places where they’re likely to engage us one on one. Pick the battles that have some value and something to be gained.
Right here, in the spot where the peaceful encampment was growing corn on a stack of cardboard, past the dumpster full of human waste and needles, is where the insidious right wing extremists charged into the beautiful nation state of CHAZ.
I thought this at first and totally understand their frustration. How could something like this happen in America? Well, by voting democrat. Contain it, let people see what voting democrat gets you.
I think we’ve let the loser leftist larp long enough. The American people get it. Enough is enough. Time to take these kiddies to prison where they can enjoy their adult years.
No, it's not enough. The people in those states, in those cities, that VOTED for the policies that led to this bullshit need to understand that there are consequences. They can't just "tap out" and have someone come with a magic wand and make all the problems disappear. They cooked this meal, so to speak, now they can fucking choke on it. Yes, red pills are bitter like that.
I wish every citizen were to understand the hierarchy of accountability that leads to your "Trump ad" statement. But you are right. It is just that the dems will pin the blame onto Trump because he did not act. And the problem is that some people will even attach to their narrative just because they hate the president.
If they want federal intervention, then let the rats come crawling on their knees and admit to the American people that the dems are too limp-dicked to maintain law and order in their own cities. Right now, these protests are firmly in the category of not Trump's fucking problem.
Only Antifa plants are calling for federal intervention.
No. That's literally what they want. Do not interfere. Never interrupt an enemy when he's making a mistake. The cuckery going on in there is dispensing red-pills daily. Don't fuck it up and have the media twist it as "Violent far-right white supremacists attack peaceful protestors"
No, because the terrorists have free passage, to come and go as they wish. IOW, it turns to shit, people die get robbed/raped, these guys just walk off. Cops/mayor then act though they won a mighty victory. More Fed money comes pouring in.
These people are instigating a fight, so when people push back they can cry I'm a victim. Personally I'm tired of them and don't give a damn what they think. Time to take out the trash.
Similar groups of patriots need to stop the statue removals and outright destruction of our history. It's obvious these commies are baiting Trump to repeat the Kent State tradegy. I heard him loud and clear during his rally that if our side would happen to rise up, it wouldn't be good for the anarchists. God willing, patriots all over take a stand.
I like this. I would do it, too. If they touched the women, they would be in huge trouble. It might happen, though, so we would have to realize this. A lot of those BLM women are totally unhinged... really mentally ill.
This is a bad move, CHOP is a blessing. Let it play out. Let everyone see what these people would do if they gained power.
It's only a matter of time before they all start overdosing on drugs and raping eachother. They'll eventually get bored and move on, and when they leave, the city will have to send in bulldozers to clean up the massive piles of trash left behind by the 'environmentalists.' They will destroy themselves if left to their own accord.
The best move would be to prolong this as long as possible, but highlight and expose what actually goes on in there.
Bad move. The Left wants an over-reaction. This is all to provoke either Trump or Normal Americans to start up the "Tyrant" or "Right Wing Terror" nonsense.
Today with the Park Police and the Jackson Statue was just right.
The best thing is to take down the statue to Lenin, in the dark of night, quietly. The media will proclaim that harmful to history, further demonstrating yet more hypocrisy.
Other sh!t, like the DeBlasio horn honking protest, also works. The National Media won't cover it but the NYC Radio Morning Guys will, and they're a lot more real than ABC or PMSNBC.
I wouldn't be encouraging anyone to f*** with them. It's a Democrat city full of democratic faggots. Let them all turn on each other it doesn't affect us. As well, if any conservatives or Patriots act, the mainstream media will paint us as being 100% the perpetrators, and then as the innocent victims.
Yeah, I wouldn't do it. They r doing huge harm to a deeply democratic city.
Pushing normal families, and business owners to vote red.
I would say give them another 5 sq block. Import aboit 2k more of these people from DC, MN and NY and have li experience rolling cameras.
With no sports (other than thr UFC), we deserve this.
You know what. I’m honestly starting to question who the shills are here and who the patriots are.
Where is the god damn fucking line for you people ?? Where is the line ?
Is it when they get to your front door ? So the rest of the entire country BURNS. But as long as your internet is working as you’re own personal home is untouched. You don’t need to leave it ?
So where is the line ? You’ve got a group of red blooded Americans about to risk their lives here and you don’t want to go help them ?
Meh, CHOP does not deserve to be given a chance for martyrdom. Most normies are slow on the uptake, due to the media, but a lot of them are being redpilled by CHOP the longer it goes on.
CHOP is unsustainable. These people are going to kill themselves. Let them do it. It's going to be a great lesson for normies and a great argument to use for voting out all Democrats nationwide in November.
Wrong move. We spend too much time trying to stop the left from showing the world what their vision of the future looks like. Trumps making the right move, follow his lead.
Wrong neighborhood but point taken.
It is a stupid statue, but on a positive note people in the neighborhood make sure his hand is painted red as symbolism for the bloodshed. Not sure how many of the actual commies realize though...
I would say something like this is exactly how we solve our statue issue. Of course the statues aren't there to honor horrible people, but we can't tear down our history. Give an extra emphasis to the horrors the statue represents, make it unavoidable. Turn it into a warning, not empty pedestal and a forgotten past.
'Looks around at the mobs of communists wrecking our historical markers.'
I beg to differ.
Lenin is, unfortunately, a part of world's history. His crimes started something that affected greater part of the last century. Those crimes need to be talked about much more than they are.
Take your children to statue
Point
Laugh
Add a clause to public urination laws, it's okay to piss on Lenin.
Is Pissing in Public bad because of the Urine? Or because my dick is out?
'Cause if it's the Outside Dick, just bring a cooler full of Pee Balloons. Have a "Throw Piss Balloons at Lenin" Party.
Hitler documentaries vastly outnumber Stalins, even though he's as much a genocidal murderer, because uncle Joe was our ally.
And people who fund documentaries were uncle Joe's allies too.
Ding ding
I think its about 5x, this might be an unpopular opinion, I still wonder why we sided with Communists who did more damage to the world and handed them half of Europe afterwards.
More reason to tear it down
I am the walrus.
BUT BUT BUT We're all global citizens with shared history xenophobic Drumptard
:-)
Then in 50 years when they've torn all the statues of anyone they disagree with and only statues of Lenin, Mao and Desmond is amazing are left standing we can rest assured that we didn't upset anyone and everyone learned that Lenin wasn't so great after all.
Exactly, educate people, maybe put up a plaque or something.
That statue needs to be melted down and cast into a Trump statue.
There needs to be a Trump statue, you are so right!
Here’s one in CHYNA before they decided to infect us
Add a layer of gold.
Based Italia
holy crap
beautiful! patriots set up an autonomous zone around the Stalin statue (different part of Seattle than CHAZ). The mayor has to let it go right? They can have guns right?
While occupying the area, pull down the status on live streaming. Mayor has to let it go right? But also melt it down and make it a Trump statue. The will of the people, right? :)
No. If you want to do that go ahead, but make sure that material of that statue is never used again.
But what if you melted it down and made slugs from it, then shot commies with those? Be kind of ironic not only to have Stalin responsible for a few more deaths from beyond the grave, but more so by doing away with this new batch of commie wannabes.
Not really my decision or opinion, but that definitely does have a more useful use than just trying to make another. If we are to make statues and all we should at the very least put data, history, and such about the period and make full use of it instead of a small portion.
I think cave paintings would be a good example in that it was used to transfer visuals with oral knowledge, but a more modern take of it might be best found in a video game: Skyrim: Alduin's Wall.
It gives a better representation of what I mean if needing to build statues at least in my opinion.
Agreed. This thing is on its way out. All that's left is for the mayor to botch the shut down. That's only good new for Trump (who offered to help).
I'd be more for it, if it was early on, tbh. Right now it just seems more like a virtue signal by the wrong side than a real action. Their hearts are in the right place, but the damage is done.
Exactly. The point is to bait a bunch of white gun-toting rednecks out. Would make a great set of photos for the nightly news.
DONT TAKE THE BAIT
So we’re just going to let them keep destroying the cities? FUCK THAT. Maybe a bunch of white gun toting rednecks is exactly the optics we need for conservatives to get off their ass and actually live up to all of the 2A tough guy rhetoric over the last few years. If someone told you three years ago that the left would totally melt down and unleash a domestic terror attack against every major city, wouldn’t that be justification enough for us to actually use the 2A to defend the country?
This. Not my tribe, not my problem. They come to my neighborhood, you damn right I will use proportionate force in self defense if necessary. But if they're vandalizing some downtown Seattle law firms, art galleries, or NGOs that hate me, that's no sweat off my back. Might even red pill a bunch of complacent fence sitters out there.
The couple times I’ve been there before CHAZ/CHOP, it has felt like being behind the lines, in enemy territory.
Obviously the neighborhood hasn’t gotten enough of what Chop has brung them. Let the 33,000 residents of that area decide when they’ve had enough. Clearly, they haven’t gotten enough or they’d be forming their own patriot force to push them out.
I kinda agree, but it looks like the mayor is now being forced to do something about it, so hopefully she can clear them out.
If you said any other city than Seattle, then yes. But they voted for this. Let them suffer. If you're in Seattle, I extend you a warm invite to move down to Austin! Plenty of gun ranges, good barbecue, and women who actually are attractive and shave their legs and conduct proper hygiene.
Just what Texas needs, more brainwashed Commiefornians. They should fix their own state.
So go do something about it. Wtf is up with all the we talk around here. This is the party of individuals. Go fucking do something if you care about something.
Wrong. Sucking their dicks will not make them stop. Just believe it.
You all are so afraid of being called names that you are willing to fuck over America without even objecting.
Do you think that the people who are controlling Chop Zone are afraid of being called names? These are the people who are winning, and they are gun toting commie fucks. They attack innocent people, and get away with it because they have strength and courage to do what they want...THAT is what makes good photo ops.
The people who control CHOP are DNC shill operatives. The 'protests' will dry up and go away when:
The right doesnt take the bait, and
The focus groups show public sentiment is against the protesters.
Remember the daily riots & confrontations in Portland in 2017? Remember the police standing around doing nothing? The same setup now - only taken one step further by having a 'no police' occupied area.
Trump didn't take the bait in Portland, and it quietly disappeared down the memory-hole. Seattle will do the same when #1 & #2 above happen.
There are no white racist groups in America - outside of a collection of three or four deep in the New Mexico desert. So, the left have to bait people into reacting to disorder in the attempt to gas-light as 'white extremists'.
The people in Seattle can only tolerate so much before the democrats in charge have to do something. Just let it play out on its own.
DONT TAKE THE BAIT
We want our President reelected. He has enough on his plate instead of the commie press using this as a massive wedge issue.
I agree with them needing to go, but I also see the problem of the Proud Boys and any other group showing up and then their being blood shed. It's going to turn into another Charlottesville and the media will just spin it against us. The left thrive on being victims. I think it will just empower them.
I think the smart choice here is to let them deal with it on their own. THAT SAID... if they came to your neighborhood thats a different story.
So go do something about it faggot. If you care about it go do something. I don't care about riots or lockdowns or any of this shit because I am flourishing. If I did I would easily do something cause I'm an individual and a man. Ridiculous around here.
Dude, chill out. I get that they are wrong but you can't stoop down to their level.
• This is the picture perfect example of the shitshow Dems want • This will GET people out to vote, there are a lot of passive MFers that sit on their ass during election time (hense why Trump was elected – people got out!!) • As Neil said above, this isn’t a community worth our effort • Lastly, if/when it moves to a Red territory, you will see different results
I understand your anger, and I know there will be a reaction for all they do. But we need to be smart about it, if you turn violent it justifies them and will turn them into victims. They thrive of being victims,
But again I don't know what the best option is. I say our side protesting is the best option but a lot of people are scared of them. They have a lot to lose, they have families to worry about. These people don't they are so sure that they will be protected legally that they do not fear legal repercussion.
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This. Too many of our people can't even talk tough before surrendering!
It’s the best way. It’s embarrassing to our enemies. So let them struggle it out a bit. You always let the toddler exhaust themselves.
Endless supplies of money, lying media, mayoral/city support, no arrests, no calls for their dismemberment, no one even insults them...pray, what is there to exhaust them??
The CHAZ will be a thorn on BLMs political aspirations side. Don't interrupt your enemy when they are doing a mistake.
If anything we need to make sure people remember and realize this is all connected to BLM, that they are not just some random ass people supporting BLM or writing BLM. BLM is the root of all this and we need to make sure we make that connection and are able to objectively prove it.
Maybe if they just blocked it off, letting the residents out, but nothing in. That would end it in a few days.
Not just victims, but martyrs for the war against freedom.
Oh fuck that shit. We are so far beyond them looking or not looking like victims. These commies have MURDERED our citizens. The soon we put our feet down, the better.
This is the wrong hill to die on. CHOP/CHAZ are basically jokes in the big picture. If theres ever a time for patriot intervention it should be: defending stores/suburbs from looting, or government overreach.
Where have THEY been? Is my point. They arent fighting the real battles. Theyre fighting a pointless battle, but are nowhere to be seen where it really matters.
No worries, but yeah. Wish these guys showed up during the hardcore lockdowns a month or two ago. Things have gotten a lot better recently (lockdown wise).
Yes. It's better to defend your neighborhoods than rolling up somewhere else and picking a fight.
Emotions are high, the Seattle people voted for this, let them deal with it on their own.
Let it be.
No matter what happens in this, Raz needs to be put down like the rabid dog he is. If he hasn't already fled. He belongs beneath the prison, not in it.
Fucking guarantee you leftists aren't going to manage to charge him with a single crime despite being on camera committing multiple felonies.
Saw a twitter thread talking about how he may be involved in prostitution/human trafficking. Some compelling starter evidence. Hope somebody follows up on it.
This? https://mobile.twitter.com/ak4wa/status/1274449710992908289
PS I’m not a Q person but I think this lady is. Regardless it’s the funding from Seattle and direct line he has that makes it suspect for me if true.
Lot going on there
Oh he'll run. The guy is an Airbnb super host and managed to buy a Tesla, clearly he has investments. The power vacuum created by limp wristed commie fags was a great opportunity he recognized, but I'm assuming he's just as smart with an exit strategy.
I mean if he was smart I don't know why he'd blatantly be on film handing out free guns (a felony in Washington, which has UBCs) or assaulting multiple people.
Hes working with the dem mayor. And has ties back to the clinton foundation. He is well protected and being directed.
Perhaps seeking out offenders of color is not on liberal Seattle's priority list
If true (re: his rumored business interests) it would appear that Raz has been taking good advantage to the opportunities that Capitalism has presented to him.
He'll be on a mayor's or governor's commission verrry soon. Not even joking.
So if we DO end up using force to retake CHAZ...it can't be we lob a few tear gas grenades and tell them to go home. First need to cordon the entire area. Nothing gets in, nothing gets out. Then, we clear it one block at a time, just like Fallujah or Ramadi, and mass arrests. Everyone gets a charge. Raz gets the big time charges but everyone gets something.
No no, don't do this. This is blowing up in the face of every Democrat who supports this shit. Never interrupt your opponent when they are making a mistake, especially one this big :) It only took a couple of weeks to devolve into racial segregation, and I've gained weight from the popcorn consumption at this point. This is better than reality TV :)
I don't know what the right move it. If someone acts, it's bad optics, if they don't, it's bad optics. Journos should hang and so should the people who support CHAZ.
The CHAZ dumpster fire is a redpill dispenser of epic proportions. Shutting it down will allow the democrats to get victim points for the next victim olympics, while letting it continue basically makes it the mayor's responsibility. She'll have to deal with the lawsuits that follow (I would hope)...
Of course these assholes can be faced and you won't need millions of people to do so. The problem is how the media will spin the resulting bloodshed. It can be avoided, by just letting them tear each other apart like the rabid dogs that they are. So far it's all contained in one lawless zone, and even the inhabitants of CHAZ have the 2 neurons necessary to GTFO when there are daily shootings and racial tensions spiking up the wazoo.
So far this is the best outcome for the Republicans. Democrat policies resulted in this shit show, destruction, deaths, IN THEIR STATES. This opens the eyes of so many people. Any kind of interference will allow the fake news media to show how oppressive literally Hitler government brutalizes the peacefully protesting saint dindonuffins.
When The Donald MOABed Syria, he didn't fucking whine about how it would be spun. He did it, and even that cunt Van Jones applauded.
If we don't let MSM have power over us, they won't have power over us.
Well, he can't MOAB CHAZ, now, can he. These are Americans we're talking about, and the public won't take it nicely if blood is shed. Even if it's blood of communists and anarchist shits.
You don't really recall Waco and or Ruby Ridge, do you?
You're right.
I got normie right friends in Portland who are now openly saying send in the military. I only secretly thought that to myself during Occupy. The Overton window is shifting.
And now we just have to wait until the media will try to frame CHAZ as a Trump admin deep false flag OP, and Raz' real name is actually Boris Grigoryevich Baklazhanov, sent to Seattle directly by Putin himself to help Trump.
Those pesky Russian hackers strike again!! I heard that Raz was using the wifi at all the local Starbucks shops in the area to hack the election once again!!
I mean, I'm not going to do shit unless my family is in danger or whatever. I want to see them get fucked up, but I do see the use in letting them make idiots out of themselves.
If vigilantes dole out street justice, we're playing by the same rules as CHAZ. We're better than that.
If they destroy our cities and people's livelihoods, it won't matter who we're better than...we'll be an enslaved nobility!
Yes, I think they're being hyperbolic. But the MSM should answer for its unethical behavior (in a legal manner). For instance, if ABC hadn't spiked this story, Epstein may have been brought to justice years sooner and many victims may have been spared. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjwf9F_v5cI
How about Trump offering all availability if only the Mayor asks. All ready to go at a moments notice if she only asks.
If she continues then he can say the Democrats keep refusing aid even when it is ready to go at a moments notice, and if so he can, also, say that I am ready to help to make this nation stronger and better from these terrorists that have imprisoned and taken hostage a city in Seattle.
EDIT: Took out Democrat-ran because the more I though about it the less it sounded like help and more like blame which would make the situation worse instead of better. By taking it out it sounds like a person willing to help the American people instead of just assigning rightful blame which would only exacerbate the problem.
I'm pretty sure that's exactly what he's doing. Didn't he offer to help Seattle and she said some woke stuff about "go back in your bunker" on twitter to POTUS?
Yep. This is probably the 2nd bout that can happen.
The enemy is weakening themselves. Spectacle is this President’s arena.
If they were only hurting themselves, sure. But innocents suffering and dying for the left's temper tantrum should be cracked down on asap.
Yeah sure, and the Patriots just let the British defeat themselves, and voila, we had a free country.
Don't care what the MSM blasts on the screens one bit. Nobody cares. End this shit for once and stop letting these people actually lay siege to America. People are actually hurt by this stuff, it's not just "omg Democrats are showing their hand" nah.
This is a bad move before November. After that, bring it on... no matter who wins the election.
50/50 on this. We need to show some organized strength at some point but maybe this isn’t the battle. I would prefer this energy be directed at say future Trump rallies and places where they’re likely to engage us one on one. Pick the battles that have some value and something to be gained.
"Right Wing Extremes Attack Peaceful Hippie Camp" -CNN
Right here, in the spot where the peaceful encampment was growing corn on a stack of cardboard, past the dumpster full of human waste and needles, is where the insidious right wing extremists charged into the beautiful nation state of CHAZ.
"Terrorists Take Control of US City-Nobody Does Jack Shit"-CNN
Hmmm...which sounds better?
Let the people in Seattle do it.
Yep. And Barr will follow up with charges against the "bugalow boys."
I agree. Let the vermin eat their own. They voted for this, let them reap the consequences.
I thought this at first and totally understand their frustration. How could something like this happen in America? Well, by voting democrat. Contain it, let people see what voting democrat gets you.
GEOTUS should sign an executive order making it permanent and officially naming it as "The What-Voting-Democrat-Gets-You Example Zone".
Throw a giant plexiglass dome over it and we can even turn it into a tourist attraction/museum/zoo type thing
Lmao. They are animals so itd be like a zoo
Capital hill asshole zoo
BioHazard Dome
I agree and disagree. We still have so many fucking RINOs letting this happen
Never interrupt your enemy while he’s making a mistake. Seriously topple the Lenin statue instead and make them argue in support of Lenin 😂
This and only this. I understand their sentiment, but just go after the Lenin statue, and don't just topple it. Crush that garbage!
They want to remove statues?
Ok.
Not an expert, but don't trebuchets work better with a nice solid counter-weight?
Hmmm, wonder we could find some extra weight right now?
Then we set the statues back with video proof of what happens when you fuck with our history.
They already do. Everybody on right is not disputing, for fear of looking like rednecks. Media spin, you know.
I think we’ve let the loser leftist larp long enough. The American people get it. Enough is enough. Time to take these kiddies to prison where they can enjoy their adult years.
No, it's not enough. The people in those states, in those cities, that VOTED for the policies that led to this bullshit need to understand that there are consequences. They can't just "tap out" and have someone come with a magic wand and make all the problems disappear. They cooked this meal, so to speak, now they can fucking choke on it. Yes, red pills are bitter like that.
imagine how big of a shitty mayor you have to be that the citizens are having to do the job which you are paid to do
Hurrah. About time.
Soros is a boogaloo boogieman
Every mayor who issued unconstitutional lock down orders should be charged.
If stand down orders aren't illegal, they should be for undermining equal justice under the law.
Good old fashioned Greek phalanx should sweep the area.
That's one way to make commie kebabs!
Dumb idea. The whole place is one giant Trump ad.
I wish every citizen were to understand the hierarchy of accountability that leads to your "Trump ad" statement. But you are right. It is just that the dems will pin the blame onto Trump because he did not act. And the problem is that some people will even attach to their narrative just because they hate the president.
https://mobile.twitter.com/MarcusKulik/status/1274588603746709504
Look at this low energy shit. They pose no real threat. Let them sit there making the democrat mayor look like she can't control her own city.
If trump goes in guns blazing, then every dead protester becomes his fault, every dead cop becomes his fault, every dead soldier becomes his fault.
The dems, antifa, and BLM want a tiennanmen square that they can pin on trump. His best play right now is to do nothing but feed them rope.
He's been feeding the Left rope for 3 1/2 years. Time to at least give it little tug.
That's a cuck narrative for brain dead sheeple. If the majority of the country is dumb enough to fall for that, we no longer have a nation.
The mayor/governor allowed things to get bad enough for federal intervention to be necessary. This is the fault of the mayor/governor.
If they want federal intervention, then let the rats come crawling on their knees and admit to the American people that the dems are too limp-dicked to maintain law and order in their own cities. Right now, these protests are firmly in the category of not Trump's fucking problem.
Only Antifa plants are calling for federal intervention.
Sounds like something an Antifa plant would say.
Nah, the Antifa plant would rile up trump supporters in an effort to goad Trmp into making a dumb move.
LOL. Now you're saying our President makes "dumb moves".
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1275379758021390336
You're a real fucking dumb and obvious antifa plant.
Tell a lie enough times and it becomes the truth.
All the MSM does is lie. You know this, I know this, but the average uninvolved rando off the street doesn't.
And who is pushing the MSM lie in this comment chain?
Is it the person saying that if Trump enforces law and order, criminals dying is his fault?
Or is it the person saying that it is the fault of the mayors/governors for allowing lawlessness to get so out of control that Trump had to step in?
Which of these is the MSM lie?
Who here is promoting that lie?
Who is pushing back against the lie?
Go ahead and get on that, then. Good job volunteering.
Well, yeah. That's what we do. We volunteer to push back against the MSM lies.
Why are you here if not for that?
Well go on, get to it.
No. That's literally what they want. Do not interfere. Never interrupt an enemy when he's making a mistake. The cuckery going on in there is dispensing red-pills daily. Don't fuck it up and have the media twist it as "Violent far-right white supremacists attack peaceful protestors"
This is the Mayor's problem and then the Governor's. Let them suffer the consequences while simultaneously red pilling the insulated liberal masses.
And a 'Patriot Group' takes the bait.
Are these really patriot groups, though? Or is is patriot groups like boogaloo boys are some well known far right group everyone here is a member of?
"The British are coming, the British are coming! Don't take the bait! Don't take the bait!"
I second Jenny go first.
Jenny should spend a night there.
No, because the terrorists have free passage, to come and go as they wish. IOW, it turns to shit, people die get robbed/raped, these guys just walk off. Cops/mayor then act though they won a mighty victory. More Fed money comes pouring in.
bet the mayor acts swiftly and harshly if that happens
There's a thread here with a live feed. Police are there now.
Where
Police are actually in Ohio and Portland. CHOP feed in Seattle doesn't seem to have any action
https://thedonald.win/p/FzPJXsZM/chop-is-getting-raided-live-get-/
Portland is more out of control than Seattle right now. No telling what those people are on, but they have been raging for days.
These people are instigating a fight, so when people push back they can cry I'm a victim. Personally I'm tired of them and don't give a damn what they think. Time to take out the trash.
Similar groups of patriots need to stop the statue removals and outright destruction of our history. It's obvious these commies are baiting Trump to repeat the Kent State tradegy. I heard him loud and clear during his rally that if our side would happen to rise up, it wouldn't be good for the anarchists. God willing, patriots all over take a stand.
I like this. I would do it, too. If they touched the women, they would be in huge trouble. It might happen, though, so we would have to realize this. A lot of those BLM women are totally unhinged... really mentally ill.
I do like that idea! I also am a petite woman, but that doesn't stop me from standing up for what I believe!
Everyone is laughing at these idiots. Let them fail. Don't give them an excuse.
This is a mistake. The media & local politicians will make sure to prosecute patriots with prejudice. Look at what happened to the proud boys.
I'd def donate to there legal fees
This is a bad move, CHOP is a blessing. Let it play out. Let everyone see what these people would do if they gained power.
It's only a matter of time before they all start overdosing on drugs and raping eachother. They'll eventually get bored and move on, and when they leave, the city will have to send in bulldozers to clean up the massive piles of trash left behind by the 'environmentalists.' They will destroy themselves if left to their own accord.
The best move would be to prolong this as long as possible, but highlight and expose what actually goes on in there.
Bad move. The Left wants an over-reaction. This is all to provoke either Trump or Normal Americans to start up the "Tyrant" or "Right Wing Terror" nonsense.
Today with the Park Police and the Jackson Statue was just right.
The best thing is to take down the statue to Lenin, in the dark of night, quietly. The media will proclaim that harmful to history, further demonstrating yet more hypocrisy.
Other sh!t, like the DeBlasio horn honking protest, also works. The National Media won't cover it but the NYC Radio Morning Guys will, and they're a lot more real than ABC or PMSNBC.
Now, if the Left riots grow again, get better organized, and start going into the burbs, all bets are off.
I wouldn't be encouraging anyone to f*** with them. It's a Democrat city full of democratic faggots. Let them all turn on each other it doesn't affect us. As well, if any conservatives or Patriots act, the mainstream media will paint us as being 100% the perpetrators, and then as the innocent victims.
Make Militias Great Again!
Why would they do that? What is there in CHAZ for patriots?
Yeah, I wouldn't do it. They r doing huge harm to a deeply democratic city. Pushing normal families, and business owners to vote red. I would say give them another 5 sq block. Import aboit 2k more of these people from DC, MN and NY and have li experience rolling cameras. With no sports (other than thr UFC), we deserve this.
Just leave it. Put a fence around and make it like an exibition of marxism. Make sure it is behind a bulletproof glass though.
You know what. I’m honestly starting to question who the shills are here and who the patriots are.
Where is the god damn fucking line for you people ?? Where is the line ?
Is it when they get to your front door ? So the rest of the entire country BURNS. But as long as your internet is working as you’re own personal home is untouched. You don’t need to leave it ?
So where is the line ? You’ve got a group of red blooded Americans about to risk their lives here and you don’t want to go help them ?
The mayor will send SWAT to attack Patriots.
Meh, CHOP does not deserve to be given a chance for martyrdom. Most normies are slow on the uptake, due to the media, but a lot of them are being redpilled by CHOP the longer it goes on. CHOP is unsustainable. These people are going to kill themselves. Let them do it. It's going to be a great lesson for normies and a great argument to use for voting out all Democrats nationwide in November.
Like the bikers did?
*armed with cans of deodrant and job vacancies.
Get your Hot Pockets ready because this is going to be the longest 2 minutes of their lives!
Bad idea. That’s what they want. They go from treasonous bastards to victims of far right extremists.
Nah, i dont see how this will end well for patriot groups. If anything, make the CHAZ more degenerate.
Wrong move. We spend too much time trying to stop the left from showing the world what their vision of the future looks like. Trumps making the right move, follow his lead.
Patriot groups need to step the back off. Let them destroying each other. Step in just allow the MSM to paint patriot groups as bigot...IMO
I certainly hope that July 18th was just an advertised false date.
What kind of idiots would tell an enemy when they are going to march in and re-take something?
Maybe it was a serious PR ploy, IDK, but at some point we are going to have to learn the game better than the Commies.