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krzyzowiec 1 point ago +1 / -0

Neck compression just means there was pressure on his neck. If you look at the details of the autopsy, there was no bruising of neck muscles, so obviously there wasn’t much pressure exerted at all.

Minneapolis PD guidelines also stated that neck restraints using your leg are legal. They only disallowed chokeholds.

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somethinga9230k 2 points ago +2 / -0

Neck compression just means there was pressure on his neck. If you look at the details of the autopsy, there was no bruising of neck muscles, so obviously there wasn’t much pressure exerted at all.

But isn't it significant that it is directly mentioned as a complication reg. the cause of death?

Minneapolis PD guidelines also stated that neck restraints using your leg are legal. They only disallowed chokeholds.

If you have a source reg. that, I would appreciate it if you would post it. The only source I have really seen reg. that is from a medium post (which is copy-pasted on a blog post on a website called amren.com which has been linked elsewhere in the comments here): https://www.sanfranciscopolice.org/sites/default/files/Documents/PoliceCommission/minneapolis%20ced%20policy.pdf .The link points to a document on a website supposedly for the San Francisco police department, despite its TLD being .org. I don't know whether that document is fake or not, though I would very much appreciate if you happen to know a better source than that.

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krzyzowiec 2 points ago +2 / -0

It also says the cause of death was the arrest. If he died due to a heart attack from the drugs, his poor health, and the stress of being arrested, then it can both be true that pressure on the neck contributed to his death and that it wasn’t the primary factor.

I mean you could say the arrest caused his death, because if the cop just let him go he might have lived, but that’s not fair imo, and neither is saying the kneeling did it. I would feel differently if his neck was damaged or if he died of asphyxiation.

If you have a source reg. that, I would appreciate it if you would post it. The only source I have really seen reg. that is from a medium post

Sure thing. I actually looked it up immediately when the event happened because I was curious whether what he was doing was standard practice or not (since everyone kept saying it was so horrible)

Hmm, their site seems to be down for whatever reason, but here is an old comment of mine where I quote what was in it. You can check the link there and see if their site is working by the time you read this.

https://thedonald.win/p/FgCXhCJo/x/c/12hRCBBrsq

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somethinga9230k 2 points ago +2 / -0

Thank you very much! The site is up for me, however, it now says that neck restraints are prohibited with the most recent update. There is an archive version that still contains parts reg. neck restraints. This is much, much better than the San Francisco site, again, thank you very much!

Old archived version that still has the stuff reg. neck restraints: http://archive.vn/fh2hZ

Current version where neck restraints are now prohibited as per 06/09/20: http://www.minneapolismn.gov/police/policy/mpdpolicy_5-300_5-300

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krzyzowiec 2 points ago +2 / -0

You’re welcome pede. 🙂

I’m surprised they changed it already. Well I am, and I’m not. It is interesting though.