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Goldeneye007 [S] 1 point ago +2 / -1

Yes but Biden doesn't matter right now. What matters is beating Trump. This election is not about the democratic nominee for the left, it is about beating Trump.

That was not the case as much in 2016.

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TehAgent 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yes it was.

For the exact reasons I said.

People weren’t voting for Hilary. They were voting against Trump.

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Goldeneye007 [S] 0 points ago +1 / -1

People that are against Trump are MUCH more motivated to vote against him now, because of the past 4 years, thanks in large part to the media. We have an additional 4 years of negative press on him now, and all the people who are simply tired of it all. We did not have that as much in 2016 as it was just getting started.

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TehAgent 0 points ago +1 / -1

Look, I understand you desperately want to be right about this....but you’re not.

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Goldeneye007 [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

I do not "desperately want to be right" about any of this. All I really want is to not have the left take power again, and I'm concerned because it's not certain that it won't happen.