Week over week, Covid-19 deaths are dropping. Don’t accept their Covid Fear Porn
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I been saying this for a while. They report total cases and deaths because there is no such thing as a negative case or death...well, unless they retroactively correct it...but the media does not report he CDC data which is the primary function of the CDC, data.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm#AgeAndSex
Hospitalizations: falling
Deaths: falling
Testing: increasing exponentially
(new cases reported should scale with increases in testing, yet)
New cases reported: remains level
CNN: MORE NEW CASES, MUST BE A 2ND WAVE!
And then liberal tryant governors pass mask order.
Based on garbage Chinese studies.
You should always bring your emotional support Chinchilla with you.
I have an emotional support bimbo with me at all times.
Based and big tits for the win!
Haha! I love this place
We are protected from excessive fines via the Constitution. You should write the DOJ, and find a lawyer to sue.
The government cannot fine us for failure to adhere to a dress code.
Maybe it is time to March on the Governor's mansion. Setup a mask free Constitution zone on the lawn.
Also if they try to tell you to prove it hit them with HIPAA and how much of a fine they'll receive for pushing for the info.
I think we all saw it coming a few months ago, even Trump. The media kept harping on testing. Testing means nothing because you could be infected 5 minutes after the test. All along, it was meant to keep this political tool alive well into the fall and prevent the economy from taking off.
They are not just saying "2nd wave" They are also saying
They are going full throttle to shut this country down longer and tighter than they did the first go round.
I'll take my chances. The media isn't known for an exemplary track record in accurate reporting.
They (the media) can push it all they want. But when they shifted to the race card and pushed for protests, a huge swath of America said, we're done with this Kung Flu BS. The rally proved it. Most everyone attending was NOT wearing masks. Now multiply that by millions and you get a massive rejection of this narrative. People aren't buying this crap anymore!
If I have to go to a store that requires "face coverings" I take my camo ball cap with an attached camo face mesh. I'll never wear their fucking dog masks and I hope we start getting creative with them. Some are wearing motorcycle helmets. Some have gas masks. Some have MAGA masks etc. Use them against these cucks.
That's hilarious. If anything, it looks like the mutations are getting weaker since the deaths continue to trend downward and our treatment protocols are improving.
The fact is that it looks like an assortment of vitamin D, vitamin C, N-acetyl-cysteine, and zinc may reduce hospitalizations and mortality. Even if you are hospitalized, heparin appears to help reduce thrombi in the lungs, and dexamethasone can limit the effects of cytokine storm if your body has fought the virus off but the immune response is damaging lung tissue.
It's not like this is January all over again. We have a lot of things in our arsenal that we've learned.
Edit: Though, if you're diabetic, you're probably screwed. But that's true for most viral infections.
The total number of people dying per week is the best number to look at if you want to see how well we are doing against Covid-19.
They can fuck around with that death number a little bit but not as much as they can fuck around with testing numbers or infection rates, recovered, infectious patients or any other nonsense .
Don’t forget to check out my projections. I am OP. The projections are based on the data up to now. I’m just following the downward trend and projecting it out.
https://thedonald.win/p/FzTz4iqS/covid-death-rate-projection-base/c/
P.S. It is good news BTW.
What's the original table from? (I've only looked through some of the comments here before asking)
Raw daily numbers from here:
https://covidtracking.com/data/us-daily
Were crunched by me to make weekly numbers.
“The death statistics are not a fair representation. The only reason death rates are declining is because Trump isn’t allowing democrat governors to use COVID to get paid for murdering the elderly in nursing homes. Falling death rates are fake news; here’s why it’s bad for America.” -CNN Probably
That reminds me when my parents were watching him when I went to see them...
Cuomo said America has only tested 20-something people per 100,000...
I brough up the CDC stats on total test performed, which was like about 14,000,000 at the time which comes out to about 4,200 tested per 100,000...I think they couldn't report facts if they had wanted to at this point...
TRUTH OVER FACTS!
It’s stupid how much harder it is to get a number for active cases in the US. On the JH website Ohio doesn’t even have recoveries listed despite my hometown’s county hospital posting a list of cases where everyone has recovered except for 2 people.
We have some information
https://gis.cdc.gov/grasp/COVIDNet/COVID19_3.html
There overall rate is about 24 per 100,000 people per week
You will have to select the parameters in the link, so about 80,000 per week nation wide, or average 1,600 (varying 800 to 3,200) hospitalizations per state per week.
There are about 20,000 incorporated cities etc in America...so an average of about 4 (varying 2 to 8) hospitalizations per city per week depending on severity of the area
Another reason why I have SERIOUS questions about what’s supposedly going on in Texas right now
Pre COVID, hospital ICUs were always full. They admit post operative cases like heart/lung surgery, cancer surgeries requiring intense care which bring big $$ for hospital. During Covid, they halted these cases to open ICus for COVID. Now Texas is open for these cases because the patients can only wait for 3-4 months. Currently non-Covid ICU beds account for 70%(today’s data from Texas medical Center) . ICU beds can be opened up more if necessary especially if people stop shooting other people during riots. No need for panic.
Do you have a link?
https://www.tmc.edu/coronavirus-updates/tmc-icu-bed-capacity-modeling/
https://www.tmc.edu/coronavirus-updates/total-icu-bed-occupancy/
There are bunch of charts, go down to
TMC ICU Bed Capacity and Plans
Which is exactly what the hospitals told everybody today.
What's going on in TX?
There is a whole bunch of Cow-Meat-19 smoking in people’s BBQs.
there right now (visiting). the national news is claiming a "spike," the local news is fretting it's a spike.
the city councils in smaller towns are starting the dictator regime with fines for businesses that don't wear masks all the time.
the tradesmen are saying, "yeah I know about Covid but I forget to worry."
My opinion on it is there is a real second wave in Texas. Lots of people are out--its a much different look than it was in April. That's if you want to call it a second wave because there was never much of a first wave.
Still though, there's not even been a correlation with testing positive for the virus and even at any point suffering from any sort of sickness. Just like when there was a big peak in New York, there was supposed to be tens of thousands on ventilators and need of hospital ships, etc. and it never materialized. Texas isn't even trending towards using up basic hospital capacity with all the other regular hospital uses going on.
I really think number of positive cases means nothing. Deaths are still trending down. The cases are used to scare people to add more government control. Just look at the situation today--it's just like it was in March. In March it was "Everyone lockdown!! It's coming for you! Exponential growth! You're all going to die!" Today's narrative is exactly the same just replace lockdown with masks. It's following the same pattern, the liberal places run to mask everyone up, the purple places follow, and if the pattern continues it will swallow up almost everywhere.
I wrote Abbott today about the mask BS. He didn't actually order masks, but he's endorsing or approving of those cities and counties who are mandating them. Some of these counties like Travis have mandated masks in businesses through August 15th. And the enforcers of those mandates will be the businesses themselves. If they don't comply, they face fines and losing their licenses. That's unacceptable and I read that the Texas R's are pushing Abbott to reconsider his stance. I hope some lawsuits are being filed against these cities and counties.
That's spread to Dallas and Tarrant county too (I think I also heard Bexar, probably others). But you're right, they are essentially strong arming the businesses into enforcing it. On top of myself hating the requirement, that's a really scummy way to force it. I've even seen heavy TDS pro-mask liberals that work places and aren't happy that they are supposed to enforce it.
I hope there are some lawsuits too. We have laws and rights for a reason and it's all just cast aside. If they want masks so bad then follow the proper channels with the legislature. They won't do that because it wouldn't get through the proper channels.
This is positively fabulous. Do you have a link to the original source for this? I have my doubts that this will make a difference, but I'd still like to at least present it to my bishop. Maybe he'll pull his head out of his ass, probably not...but if there's a chance, I have to take it.
https://covidtracking.com/data/us-daily
This is where I got my numbers from. I saved the whole page as a PDF, copied all the number from the PDF into a spreadsheet. Their number are daily and the death totals are cumulative.
To get the weekly numbers are you have to do is add up to seven days of each week and I totaled each on Sundays and then compressed the Sunday weekly total to a second spreadsheet.
It doesn’t make sense to compare daily numbers because there’s too much variation from day to day, probably due to reporting issues, etc.
Anyhow if you know how to work with spreadsheets and you can do subtraction and division it’s not so difficult to come up with these actual weekly death count numbers. My question is why hasn’t anyone in the mass media done this? Hmm
Good luck.
Ermagherd! Thank you so much, Fam! (hugs) And I have zero issue with spreadsheet math, or any math for that matter! (gives a sideways glance at his slide rule)
As to your question...I'm going to assume it's more based in rhetoric than anything else. ^_^
Ok, well if you redo what I did and find any errors in logic or typos, let me know.
Oh how you forget... remember the "Learn to code" when the MSM let all those people go?
Obvious no STEM skills in the bunch.
Here's a nice visual to go along with the numbers.
https://kekpe.pe/i/5ef499e22f4fd.jpeg
Nice chart! Higher res version here: https://i.imgur.com/fBLaej8.jpg
The source is twitter.
I’m gonna disagree with that. That is the kind of visual that the mass media wants to show us. Everything getting bigger and scarier. I’m focused on one thing, “How many people died last week”? If the number of dead are fewer and fewer, that means whatever we’re doing is working.
Also, This virus, naturally overtime, has gotten weaker due to evolution. Strong viral strains that kill their victims too quickly, don’t get transmitted.
Finally, doctors are getting better at treating this disease.
It only makes sense that death numbers are going to fall week after week.
I don't know why you'd disagree. That graph shows it losing strength and prevalence.
It shows, since mid-late April, hospitalizations are falling and continue to fall. And it shows a "new case" flatline, despite testing exponentially more.
If we had an honest media, they'd celebrate that this virus is showing a decline in severity and prevalence (when new cases fail to correlate in any way with the testing increases).
OK I zoomed in close enough to see that the green hospitalized line was going down but the daily numbers are too much information, too much detail in there for dummies like me. I’m not gonna take much away from a chart like that. That’s why I did that week by week analysis to smooth out daily fluctuations and give you a few numbers to look at. The nine week in a row falling death rate trend in blue is very clear to most people, I hope.
In the end, The only number that matters is how many people die from this thing.
We need to stay on top of data and facts, because the media is winning the war with feelings.
Nobody is dying from it. You and I both know this. The median age of mortality is 81. The average life expectancy in the United States is 76m/78f. The ones it is claiming were beyond their day and while it's sad, it's a fact of life.
We are testing and testing and testing, and no matter how many tests we perform, the numbers are all going down.
The only number they have left is "new cases". It's a number that will always be a positive integer, so it doesn't matter what that number is, it's always going to serve their feelings.
We need graphs like this to demonstrate hospitals are being emptied, testing is on every street corner, and they're squeezing every last drop out of testing for as long as they can.
Just watch, the next step is mandatory testing to return to work. Gotta pump the numbers again because we're approaching saturation of all willing participation. Need to make it obligatory!
But muh spike!
New infections are starting to spike now, deaths may lag by several weeks.
Or deaths may not happen at all. Why do you say new infections are starting to spike? Any chance that testing is increasing, which makes it look like infections are spiking? I guess that's not the narrative though, right?
It’s much easier to pull a bogus infection or testing number out of your ass than it is to pull a bogus number of dead bodies out of your back pocket.
They did try to blame any kind of elderly death on COVID-19, but they can’t get away with that game for much longer.
You can see the data here: https://coronavirus.1point3acres.com/en
New infections per day are rising (slowly now, but may increase exponentially without intervention), testing has increased immensely. The rate of positive test results has fallen as testing increased.
The entire country is infected with the virus. It's spread throughout our population and there's no containing it. The testing is proving that fact. You can wear your little dog mask and be compliant and still get infected or even transmit it to someone else. By doing lockdowns and business shutdowns, and wearing our dog masks, we still have done nothing to stop it. All we did is make it worse on ourselves and hand the Dem party a tool to collapse an economy.
Its endemic, yes, but so far fewer than 1% of the population has been confirmed infected.
Lol sure thing faggot
Hey, Fear-Bot,
Look at the blue numbers on my table. (Blue) numbers are negative.
The number of deaths declined for 9 weeks in a row, from April to last week.
If weekly death report increase anytime soon, it will be because of BLM protests not because of any type of lag.
Two more weeks! ™
Let's see, but I think the first wave took out the unprepared. We also are starting to get new protocols in place that reduce death rates.
Face the facts, we all are going to get this. The longer you can avoid getting WhuFlu the seriousness goes down (minus mutations). Prepare for getting it by being healthy as possible.
Thanks to viral evolution, weaker viral strains become more common over time.
A virus that kills it victims in 24 hours never has a chance to spread, unless it is a zombie virus that makes people bite other people.
Assuming there is no vaccine, yes, we will all get it. But deaths will be much higher if we all get it at the same time, since that would strain medical resources for those who need them.
Also, by dragging this out it buys some time to find better treatment options, and/or protocols as you mentioned.
That's what the lockdown was supposed to be for. It's been four months since this virus appeared. We have had all the time we needed to assemble data and resources to treat this thing.
At some point you have to realize that your army has enough ammunition and weaponry and just start fighting the war. We can't be in a perpetual state of "lockdown" just waiting until we have the absolute perfect idea of how to treat WuFlu and all of its impacts. Eventually we have to fucking face it head on and admit the fact that young, healthy people don't deserve to be kept in isolation and have their economic livelihoods and social lives ruined for something that doesn't even negatively impact 99% of the population.
The only wave in Florida will be the low and slow waves at the beach.
Depends on the business. Most businesses will treat it like shoplifting, just better to let it go than create a scene or confrontation. But there's vids of places like Costco being confrontational with their "members" and stopping them.
Anyone who still gives a shit about China flu is a retard
News of Major League Baseball is planning to restart the season came this week, as well as new of Biden wanting an in person debate with Trump. Of course the media is conveniently running with "spike in new cases" narrative, the last thing they want is return to normal life before November.
I can't wait for this to happen. It won't just be entertaining; it will be the nail in the Biden campaign's coffin.
I genuinely and sincerely don’t care if COVID infection rates increase SO LONG AS the people being infected are healthy and can stand the risk it poses to them. Quarantine the very susceptible (nursing homes, hospitals, etc.), have these places heavily screen incoming employees, allow the healthy to consume and produce so the economy doesn’t grind to a halt, and let herd immunity play a significant role. I’m skeptical on our ability to produce a safe and effective vaccine so quickly and we can’t perpetually stay in limbo, this is an option that doesn’t kill those vulnerable and doesn’t gut the nation’s economy. This also gives hospitals a chance to prepare for increased infections of those in need of hospitalization should things go awry.
All the while my employer is doubling down on mask wearing propaganda.
I guess I'll get fired if they show up at our remote location because I'm not going to wear a fucking mask all day at work.
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The media has stopped discussing deaths, it's all infection numbers now...
Great! We don't need the vaccine!
Oh really? CNN told me that the US is increasing compared to the rest of the world. *honk honk honk 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
Man, this! Every fucking day at my team's required morning meeting everyone just spews the same fear porn. It's incredibly annoying. But God forbid you try to give them some actual facts, they immediately demonize you and accuse you of being a terrible person.
When all the people over 1000 years old die the numbers will be 0
These death counts aren't even valid. These are the numbers WITH Wuhan. Not BY Wuhan. More precisely these are numbers that are with, by, and presumed, by Corona. In other words, inflation city.
OP here. The only numbers I am using are US death numbers. I don’t trust them but I trust other counties’ numbers even less.
I got these US-only numbers from The Covid Project run by the Atlantic magazine.
https://covidtracking.com/data/us-daily
Yes, Those are the with, by, and presumed numbers...inflated to no end. Dr. Birx had even said with all the inflation she can't even guess what the actual numbers are.
I get the feeling after the election, the deaths will be revised to reflect a much lower number. Like with the flu season a couple of years ago.
BUT CASES ARE RISING EXPONENTIALLY REEEEEEEE
And my governor is just now requiring masks in public, as of Friday. Makes sense if you don't think about it.
What is the source of this document?
I am the original poster of the document above.
The raw numbers for my spreadsheet comes from a webpage called “the Covid tracking project” which is run by the Atlantic magazine. Those are all numbers can be found here:
https://covidtracking.com/data/us-daily
That is where I got the raw death numbers from. I saved the whole page as a PDF, copied all the number from the PDF into a spreadsheet. Their number are daily and the death totals are cumulative. I added it all up to weekly numbers and did some other very basic analyses.
Yeah I keep posting on twitter (because I hate myself) - AZ's case count and % of tests confirmed have been skyrocketing but the death count have seemingly maxed out near 25 a day.
Most of the new deaths are confirmations covid deaths from prior days.
You can't jump from 500 cases a day and maxing out at 25 deaths a day, to 3500 new cases a day and STILL end up with around 25 deaths a day and take away anything but "man, this is more lethal than we thought"
My thoughts, though, are not that this is less lethal and opening up caused more spreading - I think tons of us "had it" earlier and they're just now finding out. I don't trust those tests.
At least Covid got people to shut up about climate change for once. Ironically, both are China’s fault but the media blames Trump.
My parents are extremely worried about COVID. Well, mainly my mother. They STILL wear masks and want others to as well. And they're blaming the scary ” spikes” on re-opening the country. And my parents are conservatives. But they don't follow politics at ALL. They don't want that in their lives and refuse to stand up for their beliefs. And don't say to me that I need to convince them to think our way they always stop the conversation and say I'm arguing with them. They won't take my points of view into account.
A lot of my family wear masks as well. I don't know what to do. And of course, they will force me to wear a mask whenever I'm out so I just refuse to leave. But I have an upcoming surgery in Phoenix, AZ that I have to go to but my mom is so scared about the spikes in that city so who knows what will happen. I'm 20, but this is supposed to be a family trip to Arizona and of course my surgery. I'm still living at home and my mom especially is so scared of getting sick so it's very complicated business.
Probably running out of nursing homes to kill.
"covid" deaths. Cut it by 50% and you might be getting close. What a sham!
By slowly opening up we are engineering a long tail.
If you have a deep cut and you keep on wiping away the blood as it comes comes out it’s never going to heal.
If we had simply locked everyone over the age of 70 away for a month and forced everyone younger to infect each other, all the younger people would have become immune and it would have stopped spreading.
Anyone else's local news suddenly saying they're seeing more daily cases than in April? Louisiana sure is...
Same story here. They had some lady from the board of something or other on saying "certain public activity" was to blame, but it's certainly "not because of protests because the protesters were wearing masks."
Am I going to be called a flat curve theorist if I say that curve looks pretty flat?
but, but, but the incremental growth rate!!!
9 weeks in a row of incremental drops in weekly deaths.
April 26th to June’s 21st. 9 weeks shrinking numbers.
Why don’t we know this? Is hope porn illegal or something?
so are there or aren't there like 5000 new cases a day in FL?
If there are 5000 cases of diarrhea in Florida earth day and only 3 people die from it, who cares.
It the number of people who are dying continues to go down, then what are we worried about?
Look at the link below at Oct. 4, 2020 week total projection total.
862 deaths. Lower death rates than a bad week of the flu.
https://thedonald.win/p/FzTz4iqS/covid-death-rate-projection-base/c/
The deaths are a 3-4 week lag behind the cases.
So a sudden spike in cases can be traceable to BLM and the health authorities endorsing it.
Not sure why you were down voted. It's more complicated than this, but in general the peak in daily deaths lags the peak in daily cases by 2 to 4 weeks. I think we should know fairly soon if deaths are also going up. We're smarter now (I think?) about protecting the most at risk so even with more cases I'd expect fewer deaths as a result when compared to earlier data.