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posted ago by EagleI ago by EagleI +2311 / -0

Let's assume for a moment you're right. Donald Trump is racist.

BUT if that's true:

  • Why would he sign and support 250M of annual funding for historically black colleges? Why would his administration provide more than $500 million in loans to historically black colleges?
  • Why would he create an environment that supported RECORD LOW black unemployment? Why would black American incomes increase 2.6%?
  • Why would he support and sign meaningful criminal justice reform, like First Step Act?

Prepare to watch brains explode.

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saveMySpeech 154 points ago +155 / -1

they will just downvote you and not reply or reply with:

  1. "those were because of democrat pressure"
  2. "Obama did those, not Trump"
  3. "Trump only did that to pander for votes"
  4. "those are faux news conspiracy theories and not true"
  5. "you post on the_donald, go away racist bigot"
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EagleI [S] 82 points ago +82 / -0

They will, but their downvotes are candy. It means you upset their world view for a moment, so they tried to make you disappear. For some of them, it's the beginning of a red pill. They just need a constant diet of them. We have pedes here that came over from the dark side. We can bring more.

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Techrev 62 points ago +62 / -0

I came over. The cognitive dissonance is pretty bad, tbh, and you have to take responsibility for your past mistakes. Not easy. I, mistakenly, fought hard for the other side. I think the pain of losing friends, and admitting that people you cared about deliberately lied to you is the worst part of it.

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BlackToof_Grin 11 points ago +11 / -0

What did it for you? Was it a slow waking and realization that you mentally fought tooth and nail to ignore before you finally just went "nope.. done. Can't ignore anymore" or was there a singular event or particular series of close events that made you do a 180 rather abruptly?

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morningpancakes 7 points ago +8 / -1

Not OP, but what WILL do it is if Trump gets 30% of the black vote in 2020. I think this alone is going to red pill so many Americand that Dems will never get a vote unless Reps get complacent which is easy to do.

The reason for this is, this one statistic will reveal that what's happening in real life is not anything the news is telling you. Once you realize the news is fake, you have to do the research yourself or become ignorant and not care knowing the headlines are trash.

My redpill was a long time coming, the straw that broke the camel's back was the fake news during Obama's presidency and Ron Paul's campaign. Its when I first really entered the rabbit hole. Obama running as Mr Peace President but then gets into several wars and when Ron Paul was contending, MSM censored him, falsely vilified him, and even misreported on his standing several times. The same "unelectable" narrative they used on Bernie in 2016.

So we just need one major stat to counter the fake news on "Trump/America is Racist." What better way to break their cognitive dissonance than having minorities voting for the "most racist white supremacist Nazi sympathizing Orange man in the world."

The only counter I see is if more men than women vote for him, then they might go to "Patriarchal Society" narrative. However, according to their current rules (always incoherently subject to change) being black ranks higher on the intersectionality totem pole than women.

The most dangerous narrative as I see it today is believing in the "Big Switch" that racist Dems somehow became Republicans. Because to understand this, takes A LOT of effort. Its confusing as hell and we need to start building a rebuttal that's quick and powerful.

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Techrev 1 point ago +1 / -0

I decided to fight, not physically, but online and in the discussions I had all over the internet. I would come across little pieces of information that I couldn't refute. I'd try to incorporate them into my belief system, but eventually, it became impossible. I came over from watching Bernie Sanders, and what happened there. Still, the thing that really did it, were all the little 'red pills', I guess they call them, that added up over time. I've, always, believed in the truth, admitting when you were wrong, etc. It turns out, if you do that, eventually it all adds up. I am, and always have been, a strong supporter of freedom of speech and expression. I think, too, that when I realized that wasn't the domain of the Left, it was impossible for me to stay with it.

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chuckachookah 4 points ago +5 / -1

I think the pain of losing friends...

This is what courage ultimately is --being scared but doing anyway.

Admitting that people you cared about deliberately lied to you is the worst part of it

The only thing worse than being betrayed by others is betraying yourself.

At least you free now. Scorned by some? Yes. Love by others? Believe it; after all, you left a group of lying, conniving, twisted, and sick people and now you're with people, the best people really, that believe in truth, freedom, and having fun. Known colloquially here as: Winners.

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Italians_Invented_2A 16 points ago +16 / -0

You don't understand their ideology, OP.

They believe that 1) there should be no borders and that 2) everyone should receive welfare from the government.

With these premises, Trump is undeniably racist. Because their vision is for an unlimited numbers of Africans to be welcomed and maintained in the West: any politician who limits immigration is racist because he doesn't want to share the wealth.

Ask them a better question: if 200 millions of black african men want to come to the US to be maintained on taxpayer money, what is their position? Ask them this, let's see what they say.

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AndyCuomoIsAMobster 7 points ago +7 / -0

Last week on AskRedditards' fabricated "Ur Republikan, wHy Are NT U voating 4 DRUMPF" post, almost all the top comments had "his 'fine people' quote, calling Nazi's fine people, is the first thing I noticed as Orange Man Bad...", And then they added a chopped and edited NBC production of the speech.

So I baited them into a discussion by saying "yeah, except in that video, NBC conveniently omits the part where he CONDEMNS NAZIS AND WHITE NATIONALIST COMPLETELY". To which some retard replies "uh yeah?! juz read duh trans scripts....REEEEE".

So I went into the transcript link he gave me and found the part a little further past the original 'fine people' quote, you know, the part the media edits out, and find in plain English Trump condemning Nazi's and White Nationalists.

No rebuttal or anything, just a shower of downvotes. You know you've got them when all they do is downvote you without saying another word. Also see: my post yesterday highlighting me putting the truth behind BLM on blast. Downvotes. Nothing else.

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hocuspocusfocusjeep 6 points ago +6 / -0

Living in their minds, rent free

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BrotherAmerica 3 points ago +3 / -0

Can confirm. Besides converting hardcore anti-liberty minded people, there are also those who know that something is wrong, they just don't have the support or the information to pin it down. When I was a teenager, I knew that something was wrong with many positions, attitudes, and arguments of what I later understood to be leftists, but it just seemed so "normal" to me because of the hold it has on media and schools.

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Flipbarryfromreddit 42 points ago +42 / -0

Trump isn’t racist. Under President Trump’s leadership unemployment for all races is at an all time low. Trump restored funding to black colleges, giving them $250 million. https://apnews.com/c4834e48841d97c5a93312b1bf75302a The BET founder praised him for all he’s done to help black Americans and said “I give the president credit for doing positive things https://www.cnbc.com/2019/09/12/robert-johnson-gives-trump-credit-for-doing-positive-things.html Heres the record low unemployment numbers for black Americans https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/historic-u-s-job-market-continues-african-american-unemployment-rate-hits-new-low/ https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gTDoC9VqIWs Here’s a whole young black leadership conference for President Trump. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gTDoC9VqIWs There is a Latinos for trump organization as well. Trump was friends w Rosa Parks, Muhmmad Ali and Civil Rights NAACP leader Al sharpton they invited him to speak at black awards and got pics w him https://www.thewrap.com/donald-trump-met-rosa-parks-muhammad-ali-photo/amp/ w Rosa https://mobile.twitter.com/realcandaceo?lang=en&ref_src=twsrc%5Eappleios%7Ctwcamp%5Esafari%7Ctwgr%5Esearch here’s w Al. Candace Owens is a huge black leader who supports trump https://instagram.com/joelpatrick1776?igshid=17poz39cw2lsq Joel Patrick is another huge trump supporter. Trump gave millions of dollars in loans to young black entrepreneurs in the 90’s to get their careers started and refused their money when they tried to pay him back. https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=Trump freed thousands of blacks from jail and got them jobs w the first set act. 91% of the prisoners he freed were black. Trump dated black supermodels in the past and Martin Luther King Jr. 1st cousin is a big fan of him! She said it’s OUTRAGEOUS to call him racist https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kh_N3vAWed4 Trump’s black supermodel ex girlfriend said she never heard him say anything disputing about a race either https://twitter.com/nytpolitics/status/898270757012160512?s=21 (I know she’s biracial but so is Obama yet everyone calls him black 🙄)

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EagleI [S] 13 points ago +13 / -0

This is a solid compilation. Will definitely copypasta.

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Flipbarryfromreddit 5 points ago +5 / -0

Thanks bro! I made it all myself. Spread the word of the messiah!

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Flipbarryfromreddit 1 point ago +1 / -0

I just updated it a bunch btw!!!!!!!!

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Socialismsuckz 9 points ago +9 / -0

Here's another one to add and it's huge. In one of the last countries where slavery is legal Trump terminated trade over it ; https://ustr.gov/about-us/policy-offices/press-office/press-releases/2018/november/president-trump-terminates-trade

Trump does so many things we don't even know about. He's a non stop working madman for people's freedom everywhere.

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KeepingAmericaGreat 5 points ago +5 / -0

This is a big deal and I didn't know about it. Why don't you post it as a thread?

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Socialismsuckz 5 points ago +5 / -0

I did on reddit once but will repost later. There are more things he has done over human right violations. I will try to pull them up and post too. I had a list going on an old computer.

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neverreddit 6 points ago +6 / -0

Didn’t he also open up his Florida club to blacks and Jews before that was a thing?

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johnrambo 3 points ago +3 / -0

I'm pretty sure it was segregated when he bought it and reopened it to everyone.

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UpTrump 2 points ago +2 / -0

Hurr durr you post in the T_D

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Flipbarryfromreddit 3 points ago +3 / -0

I did. It was great, but of course the favgot spez (Steve Huffman) the CEO destroyed the community. They posted 2 weeks ago about Trump’s social media bill against censorship. We’re still alive boys!

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LittleRedRidingPills 13 points ago +13 / -0

When you say "they," I imagine you mean the typical Reddit suburban white 20-year-old who parrots what they learned last semester from their new professor who is making them question their sexuality because he's SO cute!

All I give a shit about are intelligent black people who can see through the UNENDING bullshit that Democrats have heaped upon them.

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PosterIsDead 4 points ago +4 / -0

I respond by saying "Give me some examples of his racism."

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LittleRedRidingPills 2 points ago +2 / -0

I upvoted, but then I was all like....ugh.

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PosterIsDead 3 points ago +3 / -0

You have a great screen name.

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saveMySpeech 4 points ago +4 / -0

Unfortunately there’s a ton of TDS infected adults and older people too who watch too much cnn and msnbc and believe the bullshit :(

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LittleRedRidingPills 3 points ago +3 / -0

True enough. I have a childhood friend who simply parrots the CNN talking points verbatim, and it's positively painful to talk to her these days. She is deranged with TDS. (note that it's a 'her,' 90% of the time).

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neverreddit 2 points ago +2 / -0

Spinster?

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HidinginNY 2 points ago +2 / -0

Unfortunately you're right. I have parents that have TDS and believe every bit of trash from the news. Totally fine when it doesn't come to politics but when it's politics, shit goes all Jekyl and Hyde. Wish my phone had an IR Blaster sometimes cause all they do is watch CNN/MSNBC and regurgitate Orange Man Bad talking points. Don't even see a single fucking ethical problem when Cuomo gets interviewed by his brother and is handed softballs for an hour. I remember when the Tara Reid stuff was on the news and my father was totally defending Biden on it. Told him about Kavanaugh amd why that led to Tara Reid being brought up now. Immediately defaults to saying that Kavanaugh was totally guilty but "45 covered it up." Told him about the fact that Ford's witnesses either recanted their statements or got busted for perjury. Awkward silence ensues.

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saveMySpeech 1 point ago +1 / -0

there's no cure for those people :(

But maybe this twitter threat might help you red pill:

How to red pill people correctly:

https://twitter.com/RonColeman/status/1274871779337568258

Show them the video of Larry Elder red pilling Dave Rubin:

The Moment LARRY ELDER changed DAVE RUBINS Mind Forever (Systemic Racism):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phPXTWJhnYM

Full video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFqVNPwsLNo

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musicandstuffyo 4 points ago +4 / -0

They reply with examples including quotes - ask them to back up the quotes and provide evidence of Trump saying it. They can never do this, because the quotes are made up and from people writing books.

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saveMySpeech 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yep. Someone recently asked me how I could defend Trump asking people to drink lysol. I sent them the entire quote as well as the video of him speaking and asked them where exactly do you see the word "drink" or "lysol" and they replied with - "I don't have time to read and watch this long video". For fucks sake.

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