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posted ago by EagleI ago by EagleI +2311 / -0

Let's assume for a moment you're right. Donald Trump is racist.

BUT if that's true:

  • Why would he sign and support 250M of annual funding for historically black colleges? Why would his administration provide more than $500 million in loans to historically black colleges?
  • Why would he create an environment that supported RECORD LOW black unemployment? Why would black American incomes increase 2.6%?
  • Why would he support and sign meaningful criminal justice reform, like First Step Act?

Prepare to watch brains explode.

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Techrev 62 points ago +62 / -0

I came over. The cognitive dissonance is pretty bad, tbh, and you have to take responsibility for your past mistakes. Not easy. I, mistakenly, fought hard for the other side. I think the pain of losing friends, and admitting that people you cared about deliberately lied to you is the worst part of it.

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BlackToof_Grin 11 points ago +11 / -0

What did it for you? Was it a slow waking and realization that you mentally fought tooth and nail to ignore before you finally just went "nope.. done. Can't ignore anymore" or was there a singular event or particular series of close events that made you do a 180 rather abruptly?

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morningpancakes 7 points ago +8 / -1

Not OP, but what WILL do it is if Trump gets 30% of the black vote in 2020. I think this alone is going to red pill so many Americand that Dems will never get a vote unless Reps get complacent which is easy to do.

The reason for this is, this one statistic will reveal that what's happening in real life is not anything the news is telling you. Once you realize the news is fake, you have to do the research yourself or become ignorant and not care knowing the headlines are trash.

My redpill was a long time coming, the straw that broke the camel's back was the fake news during Obama's presidency and Ron Paul's campaign. Its when I first really entered the rabbit hole. Obama running as Mr Peace President but then gets into several wars and when Ron Paul was contending, MSM censored him, falsely vilified him, and even misreported on his standing several times. The same "unelectable" narrative they used on Bernie in 2016.

So we just need one major stat to counter the fake news on "Trump/America is Racist." What better way to break their cognitive dissonance than having minorities voting for the "most racist white supremacist Nazi sympathizing Orange man in the world."

The only counter I see is if more men than women vote for him, then they might go to "Patriarchal Society" narrative. However, according to their current rules (always incoherently subject to change) being black ranks higher on the intersectionality totem pole than women.

The most dangerous narrative as I see it today is believing in the "Big Switch" that racist Dems somehow became Republicans. Because to understand this, takes A LOT of effort. Its confusing as hell and we need to start building a rebuttal that's quick and powerful.

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BakeRatDotWin 5 points ago +5 / -0

the democrats all campaigned against and voted against the civil rights act.

after it passed anyway, only 1 democrat senator, Strom Thurmond, and 1 democrat representative switched to the republican party.

sauce: this is a matter of public record.

edit: please feel free to build on this, but it's already quick and powerful.

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morningpancakes 3 points ago +3 / -0

Post on r shows how people voted for Civil Rights Act. There were 4. The last one signed in 1968 by Lyndon Johnson was opposed by Republicans and supported by Dems. This fell in line with the LBJs Great Society which statistically speaking harmed black American. I know theres that quote too. But again, it's not an easy thing to communicate especially when you have actual hooded white supremacists that align with Demss rather than Reps or at least were made to believe this. It's not a quickly convincing argument.

The Civil Rights Act of 1957, was by the Republican President Dwight D. Eisenhower signed the bill into law on Sept. 9, 1957.the first major civil rights legislation to be enacted in decades, which sought to protect the voting rights of black Americans. The bill passed the House in a 286-126 vote. Only 51 percent of Democrats voted in favor of the bill, or 119 of their 235 members, compared to 84 percent of Republicans, or 167 of their 199 members.

The bill passed the senate in a 72-18 vote. The bill received 43 of 46 Republican votes, or 93 percent, and 29 of 49 Democratic votes, or 59 percent.

Back to the House, where it was approved after amendment in a 279-97 vote (75 percent of Republicans voting in favor and 55 percent of Democrats). The Senate agreed to the amendment, with support from 80 percent of Republicans and 46 percent of Democrats.

Republicans were on the right side of history.

The Civil Rights Act of 1960, again by the Republican President Dwight D. Eisenhower signed the bill into law on May 6, 1960 which further addressed the voting rights of black Americans and established penalties for those who tried to prevent people from voting. The bill passed the House on a 311-109 vote that garnered support from the majority of both parties. Roughly 87 percent of Republicans voted in favor of the act, as did 64 percent of Democrats.

In the Senate, the bill was then amended and passed with similar levels of support—83 percent of Republicans voted “yea” versus 65 percent of Democrats. The House approved the final bill in a 288-95 vote, with 81 percent of Republicans and 59 percent of Democrats in favor.

Republicans were on the right side of history.

The Civil Rights Act of 1963, by former President John F. Kennedy, a Democrat, the bill ended segregation in public places and made employment discrimination illegal.

The House passed the bill after 70 days of public hearings and testimony in a 290-130 vote. The bill received 152 “yea” votes from Democrats, or 60 percent of their party, and 138 votes from Republicans, or 78 percent of their party.

In the Senate, the bill faced strong and organized opposition from Southern Democrats. Influential senators like Richard Russell, Strom Thurmond, Robert Byrd, William Fulbright, and Sam Ervin joined together to launch a filibuster that lasted for 57 days. Russell, a Democrat from Georgia, at one point argued that the bill would lead to the destruction of the South’s “two different social orders” and result in the “amalgamation and mongrelization of our people.”

Keep note, only 1 of 200 Dixiecrat senators/representatives (the actual racists) moved to the Democrat Party changed from D to R, that was Strom Thurmond.

It passed the Senate with a 73-27 vote. About 82 percent of Republicans in the Senate voted for the bill, as did 69 percent of Democrats. The amended Senate bill was then sent back to the House where it passed with 76 percent support from Republicans and 60 percent support from Democrats.

Republicans were on the right side of history.

The Civil Rights Act of 1968, also known as the Fair Housing Act. It initially passed the House in a 327-93 vote, with 68 percent support from Democrats and 87 percent support from Republicans.

It then went to the Senate, where it was amended and voted upon, passing in a 71-20 vote in which 42 Democrats (66 percent) and 29 Republicans (81 percent) voted in favor.

The bill was then sent back to the House where it passed in a 250-172 vote. In this final vote, 61 percent of House Democrats voted in favor of the bill, compared to 53 percent of Republicans, marking the only time in all four of the Civil Rights Acts that Democrats voted in favor at a higher percentage than Republicans.

Which should make you wonder... Why? What was it about the CRA 1968 that Republicans opposed? Did the party switch happen at this time?

Well, no. The same Dixiecrats that voted against the first 3 CRA Acts were still at the helm of Senate and House power, yet for some reason they voted for this bill and this bill alone. The only difference was the leader, not because he was a Democrat, because as we've seen when JFK was at the helm, they still voted majority no. The Civil Rights Act of 1968 was led by President Johnson signed on April 11, 1968. This is the same man that said... "I’ll have those n*ggers voting Democratic for 200 years."

The advent of the Great Society by Johnson initiates the breakdown of the black family, loss of black participation in the labor market, loss of black business ownership, decline in black homeownership. Literally, every one these metrics were "better" in every sense of the word pre 1965.

Let's take the first example. In 1965, when the Great Society began in earnest following the massive electoral landslide reelection of LBJ, the out-of-wedlock birthrate among the black community was 21 percent. By 2017, this figure had risen to a whopping 77 percent. In some cities, this rate is as high as 80 percent, with most of the unwed mothers being teenagers. The black community is now entering its third generation of single parenthood as the norm, something that rose astronomically with the advent of the Great Society.

Let's take participation in the labor market.

This is an important metric for a very simple reason: Few would argue that it’s better to not work than to work. Data provided by every census between 1890 and 1954 shows that black Americans were just as active – and sometimes more – in the labor market than their white counterparts. In 1900, for example, black unemployment was 15 percent lower than white unemployment. In 2017, it was 30 percent higher.

If the conventional narrative on black American poverty and general social dysfunction were correct – that this was caused by the legacy of slavery, Jim Crow, and private discrimination – wouldn’t we expect to see a decline in black unemployment rather than the opposite during a "more racist" time in history when there was actual institutional racism?

I could keep going but let's move on...

Current Day.

Why after all these years are the Clintons so cozy with the Dixiecrat Robert Byrd, a KKK Grandmaster?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=13&v=ryweuBVJMEA&feature=emb_title

https://i2.wp.com/www.bizpacreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/kkk-leader-robert-byrd-mentor-hillary-clinton-kiss.jpg?resize=640%2C379

Why after all these years and the "big switch" are Democrats like Biden still at the helm?

The same Biden that sided with segregationists?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/joe-biden-didn-t-just-compromise-segregationists-he-fought-their-n1021626

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Lasheric 1 point ago +1 / -0

It’s nice to believe that, but Trump won’t get 30% or the black vote. I mean I wish but...

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morningpancakes 1 point ago +1 / -0

We'll just have to wait and see right? My moderate guess would be mid to upper 20's. But even if he breaks 20 it's rather unprecedented in recent history especially for someone who's been targeted and labeled nonstop as a "racist."

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Techrev 1 point ago +1 / -0

I decided to fight, not physically, but online and in the discussions I had all over the internet. I would come across little pieces of information that I couldn't refute. I'd try to incorporate them into my belief system, but eventually, it became impossible. I came over from watching Bernie Sanders, and what happened there. Still, the thing that really did it, were all the little 'red pills', I guess they call them, that added up over time. I've, always, believed in the truth, admitting when you were wrong, etc. It turns out, if you do that, eventually it all adds up. I am, and always have been, a strong supporter of freedom of speech and expression. I think, too, that when I realized that wasn't the domain of the Left, it was impossible for me to stay with it.

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chuckachookah 4 points ago +5 / -1

I think the pain of losing friends...

This is what courage ultimately is --being scared but doing anyway.

Admitting that people you cared about deliberately lied to you is the worst part of it

The only thing worse than being betrayed by others is betraying yourself.

At least you free now. Scorned by some? Yes. Love by others? Believe it; after all, you left a group of lying, conniving, twisted, and sick people and now you're with people, the best people really, that believe in truth, freedom, and having fun. Known colloquially here as: Winners.