You don’t “take your country back” with arms as a first resort. We (conservatives) abandoned the culture war with our learned helplessness, to the point where armed conflict seems like the only possible recourse. That is not so.
To would-be downvoters, realize the post I’m replying to is talking about bodies of dead Americans in the streets. Do you feel that would vastly improve our circumstances?
Don't take the Leftists' bait. Knee jerk reactions are exactly what Trump doesn't need. Put it this way - if he asks for an armed militia, then it's okay. Until then, stay put.
Joining a local militia is in no way doing anything other than "staying put," except some are becoming more politically involved which we should all think is a good idea. Since February the movement has gained momentum / restarted from scratch, and LEOs are in no position to harass them as they did previously.
Mymilitia.com may be a good first step for many here. The militia is nothing but the last line of defense against a tyrannical government, and won't do a thing about anything current; however, if we ever do need a militia trying to join it then will be too late. It may be able to help some form community defense, which would be separate from militia activity.
Thinking that any POTUS would ever be in a position to ask for an armed militia is contrary to reality.
Whose “first resort” do you think I’m talking about? We as conservatives would be using violence as a first resort over other options that we’ve forgotten about, such as organizing in large, highly-visible groups. That’s working for the left currently. I’m not talking about negotiating with the left, I’m talking about us doing more before we resort to armed conflict and killing fellow Americans.
Yes they are - according to the Constitution. Also they are humans according to God's law. I understand the anger, but we have to resist dehumanizing the other side. Just because they do it, doesn't mean that we have to do it. There are ways to fight that are not violent.
Large high visibility groups now would do nothing but end in bloodshed. They are not peacefully protesting, and if we went in to do just that, we would be slaughtered. And arrested.
Conservatives had tried every other option - and are silenced. "Cancelled."
They plainly want us dead. Believe them when they tell you that.
By no means did I intend that only highly-visible protests were what is working for the left. You correctly identify a number of institutions that favor them. What I’m saying is that we can combat the perception of there being no meaningful resistance to the left by likewise organizing in large groups on the same streets where they are.
In a world where they prohibit the 1A on pain of violence and destitution and smiling obedience. The only other recourse is exercising and usage of the 2A.
And just in case there are leftist lurkers reading. Yeah, good luck with the bull shit that we are allowed to bear arms, but never use it to fulfill it's function.
Even Black Supremacists like Dave Chapelle gets it.
"Don't get mad at 'em, don't hate on 'em. Man, it's not that serious. The First Amendment is first for a reason. Second Amendment is just in case the first one doesn't work out."
And this is the REAL question. The one that our police is now embroiled in. Law and order and it's role has been changed to enforcing systemic racism and injustice.
This is the real question. To what you do when the honor/duty in which you are charged with is being co-opted and condemned. While on the flip side, those who are supporting this change, know not what happens when they allow it to happen.
We know what the old answer would have been. I wonder what answer we all will come up with.
Ah. You seem to be a concern troll or intentionally stupid. When you think activism hasn't even begun. Or that the exercise of said activism has been stymied in all levels of life.
Politics. Popular culture. Government at all levels. Comedy. Businesses. Churches. Education at all levels.
Look back at archives. And find when and where this has started. Our Paul Revere's were intercepted and beaten to death. De-platformed. Fired. Demoralized. Re-educated. Forced to comply.
I’m not some concern troll, you fuck. Go spend some energy reading my post history and let me know if you learn anything.
What’s preventing you from reaching out to a church community and organizing a simple street protest of Drag Queen Story Hour and the corruption of children? I don’t see many in church objecting to spending a bit of their time doing that over a weekend.
i didnt read that as using arms to violently taking back our country. I read it as taking back our country in nov with a house majority senate and trump and another supreme court justice.
NO!
You don’t “take your country back” with arms as a first resort. We (conservatives) abandoned the culture war with our learned helplessness, to the point where armed conflict seems like the only possible recourse. That is not so.
To would-be downvoters, realize the post I’m replying to is talking about bodies of dead Americans in the streets. Do you feel that would vastly improve our circumstances?
B-b-but don't we appreciate the formatting of the post? ;-)
What are conservatives doing besides voting to prevent armed conflict? I’m proposing we do more, that’s it.
You missed the first shots of the Civil War fired weeks ago?
Turning to arms now would not be some "first resort." They plainly want us all dead. You don't negotiate with that.
Don't take the Leftists' bait. Knee jerk reactions are exactly what Trump doesn't need. Put it this way - if he asks for an armed militia, then it's okay. Until then, stay put.
If you go out as a militia, then Trump will be forced to send the National Guard out against you too. Think about it.
Joining a local militia is in no way doing anything other than "staying put," except some are becoming more politically involved which we should all think is a good idea. Since February the movement has gained momentum / restarted from scratch, and LEOs are in no position to harass them as they did previously.
Mymilitia.com may be a good first step for many here. The militia is nothing but the last line of defense against a tyrannical government, and won't do a thing about anything current; however, if we ever do need a militia trying to join it then will be too late. It may be able to help some form community defense, which would be separate from militia activity.
Thinking that any POTUS would ever be in a position to ask for an armed militia is contrary to reality.
Whose “first resort” do you think I’m talking about? We as conservatives would be using violence as a first resort over other options that we’ve forgotten about, such as organizing in large, highly-visible groups. That’s working for the left currently. I’m not talking about negotiating with the left, I’m talking about us doing more before we resort to armed conflict and killing fellow Americans.
Large, armed, highly-visible groups? That's fine.
If they hate everything about America are they Americans?
Yes they are - according to the Constitution. Also they are humans according to God's law. I understand the anger, but we have to resist dehumanizing the other side. Just because they do it, doesn't mean that we have to do it. There are ways to fight that are not violent.
Are they Americans this week our CHAZians? I can't keep up.
Large high visibility groups now would do nothing but end in bloodshed. They are not peacefully protesting, and if we went in to do just that, we would be slaughtered. And arrested.
Conservatives had tried every other option - and are silenced. "Cancelled."
They plainly want us dead. Believe them when they tell you that.
By no means did I intend that only highly-visible protests were what is working for the left. You correctly identify a number of institutions that favor them. What I’m saying is that we can combat the perception of there being no meaningful resistance to the left by likewise organizing in large groups on the same streets where they are.
Maybe you've missed all the conservatives being mobbed, battered, and killed right now ...
What is your interpretation of what I’m saying. I believe it is mistaken, so let’s find that out first.
We all know he is one, though.
You are a troll. If you don't STFU, I will DEPORT your ass.
Try it. I have faith moderators will spend more time considering my posts than you have.
Don't be intentionally stupid.
In a world where they prohibit the 1A on pain of violence and destitution and smiling obedience. The only other recourse is exercising and usage of the 2A.
And just in case there are leftist lurkers reading. Yeah, good luck with the bull shit that we are allowed to bear arms, but never use it to fulfill it's function.
Even Black Supremacists like Dave Chapelle gets it.
"Don't get mad at 'em, don't hate on 'em. Man, it's not that serious. The First Amendment is first for a reason. Second Amendment is just in case the first one doesn't work out."
... and there's always a contrived 'Boogaloo Bois' LARP ready to pin on ya.
Now this is THE TRUE concern.
And this is the REAL question. The one that our police is now embroiled in. Law and order and it's role has been changed to enforcing systemic racism and injustice.
This is the real question. To what you do when the honor/duty in which you are charged with is being co-opted and condemned. While on the flip side, those who are supporting this change, know not what happens when they allow it to happen.
We know what the old answer would have been. I wonder what answer we all will come up with.
How about taking some of your own advice? 2A as a solution when we haven’t begun to engage in activism is senselessly stupid.
Ah. You seem to be a concern troll or intentionally stupid. When you think activism hasn't even begun. Or that the exercise of said activism has been stymied in all levels of life.
Politics. Popular culture. Government at all levels. Comedy. Businesses. Churches. Education at all levels.
Look back at archives. And find when and where this has started. Our Paul Revere's were intercepted and beaten to death. De-platformed. Fired. Demoralized. Re-educated. Forced to comply.
I’m not some concern troll, you fuck. Go spend some energy reading my post history and let me know if you learn anything.
What’s preventing you from reaching out to a church community and organizing a simple street protest of Drag Queen Story Hour and the corruption of children? I don’t see many in church objecting to spending a bit of their time doing that over a weekend.
i didnt read that as using arms to violently taking back our country. I read it as taking back our country in nov with a house majority senate and trump and another supreme court justice.