I guess the point I was trying to make is that every case is going to be different and having certs or degrees is a nothingburger. It will be up to you as the hiring manager to make sure you find what's best for you, regardless of credentials.
I've hired PMs with their PMP and CSM certs who were absolutely horrible. They did things by the book, and the devs hated working with them. I've also worked with engineers who tout their 10 certifications behind their titles, but they aren't able to fully articulate the difference between a DSN and a DNS. Now, the converse is true as well. I've worked with fantastic engineers who did get their certs and who did finish with CS degrees. But the bottom line is that the certs and degrees have never factored in for me.
the bottom line is that the certs and degrees have never factored in for me.
Honestly, I wish there were more hiring managers like you out there.
My job is allowed to hire people without certs, but they have to be able to obtain them within 90 days as per our contract. So there's that too. If they know their shit, a cert shouldn't be hard to get, in my opinion.
Truth is, from my own experience, college didn't really prepare me for my professional career. Everything I learned to do my jobs I have learned by working at them. So that's how I hire.
I guess the point I was trying to make is that every case is going to be different and having certs or degrees is a nothingburger. It will be up to you as the hiring manager to make sure you find what's best for you, regardless of credentials.
I've hired PMs with their PMP and CSM certs who were absolutely horrible. They did things by the book, and the devs hated working with them. I've also worked with engineers who tout their 10 certifications behind their titles, but they aren't able to fully articulate the difference between a DSN and a DNS. Now, the converse is true as well. I've worked with fantastic engineers who did get their certs and who did finish with CS degrees. But the bottom line is that the certs and degrees have never factored in for me.
Honestly, I wish there were more hiring managers like you out there.
My job is allowed to hire people without certs, but they have to be able to obtain them within 90 days as per our contract. So there's that too. If they know their shit, a cert shouldn't be hard to get, in my opinion.
That's a kind compliment. Thank you. :)
Truth is, from my own experience, college didn't really prepare me for my professional career. Everything I learned to do my jobs I have learned by working at them. So that's how I hire.