You lost me at most far left anararchists/socialists are not violent. It seems like a typical "nothing to see here Muh Both Sides" equivocation statement for lefty damage control.
Boogaloo is a joke being spun out into a psyop.
Antifa and BLM are terrorist groups because they coordinate actual violence to overthrow our government. They have the natural right to try, and we as the super majority who don't want them to succeed in pushing us into whatever form of marxist socialist state they envision, have the right to clap if our government fucks them up for it. Natural law. Governments will always become tyranical, people will always fight them, and people happy with status quo will always defend the government. What are we complaining about again?
If they were only protestors demanding a new government through peaceful means, I would say fine, it's your right, but starting riots and destroying historical statues and artifacts, looting, taking over city sections, fuck them. That is not constitutionally protected. I don't feel I am violating my principles by supporting their round up as they are trying to destroy my own constitutional freedom, system of government made by the people for the people.
You make good points. ...I feel like the problem is that there are many different groups all calling themselves anarchists, antifa and BLM-- just like their are many different groups calling themselves libertarians, alt-right, etc.-- and each is so radically different from every other, that trying to make sweeping declarations about any of them is very dangerous-- some are literally just criminals, hiding behind an ideology in order to commit crimes with impunity in order to benefit themselves-- but not all. Perhaps not most. Might your name end up in a database somewhere someday based on precedents being set now, that allow some government with slightly more left leaning views to treat you like a potential terrorist? No one wants this-- but things can get out of control. More than half the country right now supports the BLM-- if we start treating everyone associated with BLM like potential enemies, that could lead to some serious shit down the road that nobody wants.
I've seen these line of false reasoning arguments before.
Assert there is no way to REALLY tell who stands for what to argue everyone is the same. A reverse form of herd protection, but for radicals among sheep.
Pretend there is no existing law or reasonable way to distinguish between an organized threat and an espousing of political opinion.
Pretend there are no existing standards of law and jurisprudence established as a system that respect the boundary between constitutional protection and valid prosecution.
Just because you male all these assertions, doesn't mean they convince otherwise reasonable people. Your hand wringing is either incredibly naive, or tactically disingenuous for a desired outcome. We can protect the Constitution without violating it.
You lost me at most far left anararchists/socialists are not violent. It seems like a typical "nothing to see here Muh Both Sides" equivocation statement for lefty damage control.
Boogaloo is a joke being spun out into a psyop.
Antifa and BLM are terrorist groups because they coordinate actual violence to overthrow our government. They have the natural right to try, and we as the super majority who don't want them to succeed in pushing us into whatever form of marxist socialist state they envision, have the right to clap if our government fucks them up for it. Natural law. Governments will always become tyranical, people will always fight them, and people happy with status quo will always defend the government. What are we complaining about again?
If they were only protestors demanding a new government through peaceful means, I would say fine, it's your right, but starting riots and destroying historical statues and artifacts, looting, taking over city sections, fuck them. That is not constitutionally protected. I don't feel I am violating my principles by supporting their round up as they are trying to destroy my own constitutional freedom, system of government made by the people for the people.
You make good points. ...I feel like the problem is that there are many different groups all calling themselves anarchists, antifa and BLM-- just like their are many different groups calling themselves libertarians, alt-right, etc.-- and each is so radically different from every other, that trying to make sweeping declarations about any of them is very dangerous-- some are literally just criminals, hiding behind an ideology in order to commit crimes with impunity in order to benefit themselves-- but not all. Perhaps not most. Might your name end up in a database somewhere someday based on precedents being set now, that allow some government with slightly more left leaning views to treat you like a potential terrorist? No one wants this-- but things can get out of control. More than half the country right now supports the BLM-- if we start treating everyone associated with BLM like potential enemies, that could lead to some serious shit down the road that nobody wants.
No BLM is NOT a majority.
Pull your head out of your aas. The only way you could conclude that is by swallowing misleadia lies.
I've seen these line of false reasoning arguments before.
Assert there is no way to REALLY tell who stands for what to argue everyone is the same. A reverse form of herd protection, but for radicals among sheep.
Pretend there is no existing law or reasonable way to distinguish between an organized threat and an espousing of political opinion.
Pretend there are no existing standards of law and jurisprudence established as a system that respect the boundary between constitutional protection and valid prosecution.
Just because you male all these assertions, doesn't mean they convince otherwise reasonable people. Your hand wringing is either incredibly naive, or tactically disingenuous for a desired outcome. We can protect the Constitution without violating it.