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Side-o-Beef_Curtains 9 points ago +9 / -0

True, they are not prosperous as a rule. But many of them remain culturally stable for centuries until a war comes along. It's not that women are bad, it's just easier to sell social change to someone with the ingrained instinct to nurture. This might not be popular with the "hur dur mgtow" crowd, but I put the blame on father's. If more father's took an active interest in teaching their children proper values then everybody male and female would be less prone to buying twisted leftist bullshit. We have to commit to being great father's, and have lots of kids. It's the only way.

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Side-o-Beef_Curtains 5 points ago +5 / -0

Oh absolutely. Most of the "women voting for socialism" is women and men, slightly more women statistically, voting for the government to fix a problem that they don't see any other answer to. Be picky about your mate, then be a good husband and leader in the home. Grow your marriage and your children in faith. This might not be a popular opinion in every circle, but people need faith, and the objective nature of faith based moral principles. Then you have to be a good citizen. Work through the church, and by yourself to help people charitably. If we we're fixing the problems, nobody would need government to fix problems. Perfect example: when you get off the highway on the way to my church you have to pass a strip club known for prostitution. It's gross. So, instead of bitching about it we fundraised for a few months and bought it. We shut it down. Then the church paid for therapy for any of the young women that would take it because they were almost all trauma survivors. Then we sent them to community college for job training.bnone of our kids will ever say "government should solve that problem" because they see good people solving problems. It's not easy, but it's the only way.

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flashersenpai 3 points ago +3 / -0

You're putting the cart before the horse. What's the point of advocating good fatherhood when fatherhood is being abused by the legal system? And then you run into the catch 22 of how do you fix something that benefits women when women won't vote for it? (also hur dur)

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Side-o-Beef_Curtains 5 points ago +5 / -0

You are right. But there is a solution to the cart being before the horse and most men don't want to hear it. We have to be very very picky when choosing a wife. It's not manly to have casual sex with tons of women who also sleep around. We must first pick great women, and then become great husbands and leaders in the home. I'm not trying to be a dick when I say this but if your woman chooses to use the legal system against you either you married a scumbag or you could have been a better husband. Like it or not we have to compete against the government for the job of head of household. It's not right, and it's not fair. Luckily however these are the same people who run the DMV so you can beat them. Be a great husband and build your marriage on the foundation of faith. Be the kind of man your Creator thinks you are.

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flashersenpai 1 point ago +1 / -0

Given that you're familiar with MGTOW, I'll make the obvious point that the alternative to marriage is not necessarily sleeping around but can also be disengagement. Women may control sex, but men control commitment. And men, for all their flaws, can at least understand incentives. An organic withdrawal from marriage as a legal institution is already occurring based on marriage statistics and the social trends around "leftover women". And the only way to fix it is to fix the laws. Or double down on them which would be obvious accelerationism.

There's plenty of men who want to be married but have intensely negative second hand experience with the laws through fathers, brothers, friends, coworkers, news reporting, and online communities. Telling them it's their duty to jump into the meat grinder is not only dismissive of the legal realities but dismissive of their worth as individuals. It's just not persuasive.