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Turtler 3 points ago +4 / -1

Mate, you're playing into the hands of modern Socialists.

Socialism isn't primary about "Workers owning the means of production", Social Welfare, or "Free Gibs." That's common propaganda used for more than a century by mostly Marx's assorted bastards, but that isn't what socialism Means in practice.

Socialism is communal, public MANAGEMENT of the economy. Period. Full stop.

We have a lot of leeches and parasites draining the US Tax Coffer and Bernie and co trying to use the base interests of those scumsuckers to encourage more draining in order to Implement socialism ,but we don't actually have socialism yet.

The Nazis had socialism. And if you think it was just a matter of having X kids you had a house, you're incredibly goddamn naive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCkyWBPaTC8

https://cdn.mises.org/The%20Vampire%20Economy.pdf

How would you like being told where to live, how much to buy at, how much to sell, and living under Price Kommissars?

And that's just part of it.

Welcome to the freaking Third Reich. I hope you like dealing with unaccountable, tyrannical government bureaucrats because you're going to be dealing with LOTS of them.

That doesn't mean the shit you describe isn't a problem, it absolutely is and has been ever since a certain dead white man pointing out how democracy would allow corrupt people in the civic body to vote themselves Gibes out of the public coffer. But that's a distinct problem from both arseholes trying to implement socialism, and REAL Socialism as lived in those paradises like Nazi Germany, the USSR, and Venezuela.

They're interrelated problems a lot of the times, sure, but still distinct.

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thegeebeebee 2 points ago +2 / -0

Leftist infiltrators will never listen to us. They're running a script. NPCs.

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Turtler 1 point ago +1 / -0

Well, one can make an atempt. I like going into the teeth of a lot.