In the interest of not rewriting history: this is completely false. Have you read Mein Kampf?
The Nazis' claimed to be right-wing and often said that the left was destroying the world.
I don't find them compatible with our beliefs (big government vs small government, they were extremely racist), but I wouldn't lump them in with "socialists" because they are certainly not socialists (by the modern definition especially). Hitler hated socialists/communists. He said they were created by "the Jew".
"It is not Germany that will turn Bolshevist, but Bolshevism that will become a sort of National Socialism. Besides, there is more that binds us to Bolshevism than separate us from it… The petit bourgeois Social-Democrat and the trade-union boss will never make a National Socialist, but the Communist always will."
When/where did Hitler say that? I can't find any primary sources.
I agree that 2020 leftism has more in common with Hitler than 2020 conservatism, but that doesn't mean Hitler was a Marx-loving commie "leftist".
Obviously a lot has changed in the last 100 years. The left-right arguments we make today don't really for the mold of the 1930's very well. I guess that's what I'm wary of people saying. Saying "Hitler was a leftist!" is a stupid thing to say without any context. He identified as right-wing at the time, although we could make the argument today that conservatives have less in common with him than leftists. To boot, conservatives today are basically classic liberals of yesteryear (freedom, small government, etc).
It's not a black and white argument since the world we live in is so different. I don't want us to stoop down to BLM-leftist levels and view history without any context.
So you just said the definitions have changed and then claim his version of right wing is applicable? When he clearly promoted progressive and leftist policies! You negated your own point.
Promoting Marxist lies that national Socialists weren't socialists requires deportation.
Get on the helicopter if you can't accept history.
Nah man. I'm suggesting he lied about being a socialist to gain popular support. He governed like a dictator once in power. Actions speak louder than words. Same could be said about Stalin. I don't think he meant much of what he said about political ideology.
I think this is similar to BLM not actually caring about black lives.
I'm not promoting Marxist lies, I'm trying to have an intelligent discussion about history. We should be above low IQ identity politics.
In the interest of not rewriting history: this is completely false. Have you read Mein Kampf?
The Nazis' claimed to be right-wing and often said that the left was destroying the world.
I don't find them compatible with our beliefs (big government vs small government, they were extremely racist), but I wouldn't lump them in with "socialists" because they are certainly not socialists (by the modern definition especially). Hitler hated socialists/communists. He said they were created by "the Jew".
"It is not Germany that will turn Bolshevist, but Bolshevism that will become a sort of National Socialism. Besides, there is more that binds us to Bolshevism than separate us from it… The petit bourgeois Social-Democrat and the trade-union boss will never make a National Socialist, but the Communist always will."
You're wrong, though.
When/where did Hitler say that? I can't find any primary sources. I agree that 2020 leftism has more in common with Hitler than 2020 conservatism, but that doesn't mean Hitler was a Marx-loving commie "leftist".
Obviously a lot has changed in the last 100 years. The left-right arguments we make today don't really for the mold of the 1930's very well. I guess that's what I'm wary of people saying. Saying "Hitler was a leftist!" is a stupid thing to say without any context. He identified as right-wing at the time, although we could make the argument today that conservatives have less in common with him than leftists. To boot, conservatives today are basically classic liberals of yesteryear (freedom, small government, etc).
It's not a black and white argument since the world we live in is so different. I don't want us to stoop down to BLM-leftist levels and view history without any context.
So you just said the definitions have changed and then claim his version of right wing is applicable? When he clearly promoted progressive and leftist policies! You negated your own point.
Promoting Marxist lies that national Socialists weren't socialists requires deportation.
Get on the helicopter if you can't accept history.
Nah man. I'm suggesting he lied about being a socialist to gain popular support. He governed like a dictator once in power. Actions speak louder than words. Same could be said about Stalin. I don't think he meant much of what he said about political ideology.
I think this is similar to BLM not actually caring about black lives.
I'm not promoting Marxist lies, I'm trying to have an intelligent discussion about history. We should be above low IQ identity politics.
Declaring you are right wing doens't make you so. If you look at their beliefs and ideologies its very socialist.