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TheRealTurdFurgeson 4 points ago +8 / -4

You must not know many gay men, then. I have 30+ gay friends. All of them were born that way with no history of childhood trauma.

65% of them are hard-core conservative.

We need to stop spreading this misinformation and accept all the gays we can get.

Labeling them as inferior or "they must be the product of childhood trauma" is just straight up wrong, and victimizes people who ought not to be victimized.

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Picador20 6 points ago +7 / -1

Thank you for a sane post. I have always been gay and I have never been abused. I am not a victim and I am not going to make anyone else a victim.

If I could have chosen to be straight, I would have chosen to be straight. Being gay has not brought me happiness or success. But I am honest enough to know what I am and to state what I am. I am gay and I never chose to be gay. I know more about it than you do.

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TheRealTurdFurgeson 1 point ago +1 / -0

Anytime, 'pede. Keep on keepin' on.

Be proud of who you are, unless you're a straight white man then you're raysis and sexis of course. /s

Anyone that loves America is fine by me.

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Chinese_spy 3 points ago +3 / -0

Respectfully acknowledge your experience, but mine was quite different: The majority of my gay friends were burdened with childhood trauma.

(Honestly, I do not know why people are so forthcoming with telling me that they were molested/raped when young, but they do.)

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YoLLamaIsSoFat 2 points ago +2 / -0

Right? America isn't the only country with gay people. There are places where gays are treated despicably and killed, why would anyone choose that when they could just as easily choose to live happily ever after.

Never understood the choice argument.

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YoLLamaIsSoFat 1 point ago +1 / -0

So who you are physically attracted to makes no difference?

Men who are attracted to other men aren't gay, as long as they don't have sex with them?

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TheRealTurdFurgeson 1 point ago +2 / -1

It's just a ridiculous way for people to justify being homophobic. I'm not gay myself but have had MANY gay friends over the years.

I think about it the same way as I think about race, gender, anything like that: Who gives a shit?

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YoLLamaIsSoFat 2 points ago +2 / -0

Think so too. I don't really give a hoot what anybody else does if it isn't physically hurting me. Lol

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TheRealTurdFurgeson 0 points ago +1 / -1

Thank you for responding, but I would say that the data disagree with you. Another 'pede sent me an article to "debunk" my claim when the statistics in the study seem to back my statement.

The vast majority of men who identify as homosexual or bisexual (87%) have not had any sexual experiences under the age of 17. Only 13% reported a negative sexual experience prior to age 17 with someone who was 5+ years older.

https://www.jstor.org/stable/3813546?seq=1

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TheRealTurdFurgeson 0 points ago +1 / -1

There's also nothing wrong with a flaming gay man.

There's nothing wrong with the way people are born. There's only something wrong when you choose to do something nefarious with it.

I just can't wrap my head around caring what 2 consenting adults do behind closed doors. Why is it anyone's fucking business?

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