Not gonna lie, I love KPop and wanted to vote for Donald Trump in 2016. (Will actually do so in 2020.) It's really fucking sad KPop has been weaponized but not in the way I expected it to. If anything, I'm more upset how they turned a hobby into a political weapon.
Not my problem anyway. That fandom was a train wreck since KPop blew up on an international scale in popularity.
I mean, what is the scale of infiltration in Kpop? Is it just the foreign fandom? Or the actual artists in Korea? And what percentage? I am not gonna shit on something just from a handful of idiots. And even if it is more than a handful all that means is I will listen to their music without giving them money. The lyrics of the artists I listen to at the very least are pretty wholesome, so if the industry is infested with leftists, its nowhere near as bad as in our country.
I argued with someone who claims to know people in the KPop fandom that are like, "Well, all the people who love KPop HATE Donald Trump."
Me: I actually voted for him and love KPop too. If they were leftist before enjoying KPop then that's not gonna change either. They hated Donald Trump before and they're gonna hate him after taking KPop as an "identity" or hobby.
If anything, I noticed all of these "KPop stans" are all from the international fandoms. The fandoms that originate in South Korea/the real fandoms don't fight any political issues. The only thing they'll do is, for example, donate to a cause or charity on behalf of the fan club for their idol's bday. That is literally it. They're silent on everything else and just enjoy KPop for what it actually fucking is - a hobby.
I also did forget a lot of KPop artists have messages in their songs but it's never been political. For example, BTS had albums in which the main topic was to love yourself. I think BTS also supported LGBT rights and other topics leftists support. (They never said anything negative about the US or Trump though. Just that they support equal rights, etc.)
I'd like to think KPop artists just want people to be generally treated fair, etc, and push boundaries. (It's more of a cultural thing.) I know the only KPop artist that I definitely know who wrote anti-US songs was Psy - better known for Gangnam Style - and he went through some backlash for it even though it was early material he wrote. That's just my two cents, though.
TL;DR: KPop isn't exactly fucked but the ones making loud noise on twitter or infiltrating certain hashtags are international/US fans - which means it's not the legitimate fandoms that originated in South Korea who support this.
The thing is the fandom is full of teenage girls and adults acting like teenage girls. You can see it in any of their communities or in the YouTube comments on Kpop stuff. They are going through that stage where they feel the music and artists they like defines who they are.
You just need to remember that whenever you see Kpop fans weaponisng it against conservatives, it's mostly liberal teenagers who are still developing a sense of who they are. All they know is orange man bad because that's probably what they are taught and they haven't really learned to think for themselves.
I just ignore the communities because I'm an adult and I just like listening to upbeat and sometimes cheesy music. (I do listen to other, "good"music, though lol).
Oh yeah you're totally right about the communities. I just want to know more about what they actually did. I heard they had something to do with buying up tickets at the one rally to try and make trump look bad. If it was the American fandom I wouldn't care much. If it was the Korean fandom I would be peeved but not be that mad. If it was any artists I would be pretty mad, and if it is any that I like I would be upset to heartbroken (if IU has TDS I would be distraught lmao).
I know they have a tendency to flood conservative hashtags on twitter and the like with kpop memes and I heard about them supposedly buying up tickets too. It seems likely that it would be the American/western fandoms doing it.
I know some artists donated to the George Floyd memorial fund and BTS apparently donated $1,000,000 to BLM. Most of the other artists that donated are either from US or lived there at some point so that may explain it.
Not gonna lie, I love KPop and wanted to vote for Donald Trump in 2016. (Will actually do so in 2020.) It's really fucking sad KPop has been weaponized but not in the way I expected it to. If anything, I'm more upset how they turned a hobby into a political weapon.
Not my problem anyway. That fandom was a train wreck since KPop blew up on an international scale in popularity.
I mean, what is the scale of infiltration in Kpop? Is it just the foreign fandom? Or the actual artists in Korea? And what percentage? I am not gonna shit on something just from a handful of idiots. And even if it is more than a handful all that means is I will listen to their music without giving them money. The lyrics of the artists I listen to at the very least are pretty wholesome, so if the industry is infested with leftists, its nowhere near as bad as in our country.
I argued with someone who claims to know people in the KPop fandom that are like, "Well, all the people who love KPop HATE Donald Trump."
Me: I actually voted for him and love KPop too. If they were leftist before enjoying KPop then that's not gonna change either. They hated Donald Trump before and they're gonna hate him after taking KPop as an "identity" or hobby.
If anything, I noticed all of these "KPop stans" are all from the international fandoms. The fandoms that originate in South Korea/the real fandoms don't fight any political issues. The only thing they'll do is, for example, donate to a cause or charity on behalf of the fan club for their idol's bday. That is literally it. They're silent on everything else and just enjoy KPop for what it actually fucking is - a hobby.
I also did forget a lot of KPop artists have messages in their songs but it's never been political. For example, BTS had albums in which the main topic was to love yourself. I think BTS also supported LGBT rights and other topics leftists support. (They never said anything negative about the US or Trump though. Just that they support equal rights, etc.)
I'd like to think KPop artists just want people to be generally treated fair, etc, and push boundaries. (It's more of a cultural thing.) I know the only KPop artist that I definitely know who wrote anti-US songs was Psy - better known for Gangnam Style - and he went through some backlash for it even though it was early material he wrote. That's just my two cents, though.
TL;DR: KPop isn't exactly fucked but the ones making loud noise on twitter or infiltrating certain hashtags are international/US fans - which means it's not the legitimate fandoms that originated in South Korea who support this.
Yeah that makes sense. I like a lot of Kpop too and am gonna vote for trump. It's always the loudest idiots that give something a bad name.
The thing is the fandom is full of teenage girls and adults acting like teenage girls. You can see it in any of their communities or in the YouTube comments on Kpop stuff. They are going through that stage where they feel the music and artists they like defines who they are.
You just need to remember that whenever you see Kpop fans weaponisng it against conservatives, it's mostly liberal teenagers who are still developing a sense of who they are. All they know is orange man bad because that's probably what they are taught and they haven't really learned to think for themselves.
I just ignore the communities because I'm an adult and I just like listening to upbeat and sometimes cheesy music. (I do listen to other, "good"music, though lol).
Oh yeah you're totally right about the communities. I just want to know more about what they actually did. I heard they had something to do with buying up tickets at the one rally to try and make trump look bad. If it was the American fandom I wouldn't care much. If it was the Korean fandom I would be peeved but not be that mad. If it was any artists I would be pretty mad, and if it is any that I like I would be upset to heartbroken (if IU has TDS I would be distraught lmao).
I know they have a tendency to flood conservative hashtags on twitter and the like with kpop memes and I heard about them supposedly buying up tickets too. It seems likely that it would be the American/western fandoms doing it.
I know some artists donated to the George Floyd memorial fund and BTS apparently donated $1,000,000 to BLM. Most of the other artists that donated are either from US or lived there at some point so that may explain it.