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Tonightm02 11 points ago +12 / -1

This is nothing. At least they put these poor souls into a grave of sorts.

This was to try to hide their crimes from the allies and Russians. In this case, more likely the Russians since most camps were on the east side of Germany and into Poland.

You should read the stories of when the Germans moved through Poland and in turn when the Russians moved through western Poland.

There were no graves. Bodies just rotted away in fields. Men, women, children, and babies. Shotting pregnant women. Though first, they would kill the baby so the mother could feel and see the unborn baby die. Then they would kill her.

People have no idea the evils socialism can bring onto humanity. It would be like trying to think about how big the universe is. Its something unimaginable to normal people.

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somethinga9230k 5 points ago +5 / -0

Some massacres were intentionally falsely blamed by the communists on the Nazis, such as https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katyn_massacre , where about 22,000 Polish officers, police officers, clergy, factory owners, officials, land owners, etc. were murdered. The Nazis discovered the massacre and the buried bodies, and invited international experts to see them, confirm them and investigate them. And later, the Soviet Union claimed that it was actually the Nazis that committed those massacres. In about 1990, the Soviet Union/the successor state Russia admitted that it was the Soviet Union that committed that massacre, planned and performed by the NKVD, as well as the effort by the Soviet Union to cover up and intentionally falsely blame the Nazis.

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TruthyBrat 2 points ago +2 / -0

It’s amazing how few understand the Soviets were very much allied with the Nazis until 1941, and dismembered Poland as a team. The Poles sure know it, but not many here.

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somethinga9230k 1 point ago +1 / -0

It seemed more an alliance of desperation for the part of the Nazis than anything. Hitler had previously praised Pilsudski, and seemingly expressed great sorrow at his passing in 1935 and held a state funeral for Pilsudski in Berlin, and they had repeatedly tried to get a defense pact up and running with Poland. But matters such as Gdansk/Danzig, territories, moving the borders of Poland Eastward as far as I recall, etc. etc. etc. etc., was not exactly conducive to a defense pact. I do not know how Pilsudski viewed Hitler before his death in 1935, but Pilsudski was definitely staunchly anti-communist as far as I know. Poland had ideas of its own "central European empire/alliance" as I recall, the "Intermarium", with Poland being the "big brother" in that. But Poland had not modernized its military, and it had tanks, tankettes and literal cavalry units when it was invaded in 1939 as I recall (the last cavalry charge in WW2 was as I recall by a Polish re-emerged unit in 1945). The Nazis believed in 1939 as far as I know that they could not defend against the Soviet Union if the Soviet Union conquered Poland and had a border right next to Germany itself. The Soviet Union on the other hand, as far as I know, might have preferred invading Germany in 1942 or 1943 or just wait until an opportune time (while finishing up invasions elsewhere, such as reg. Finland - they had kept conquering more and more and more of Europe and committed many genocides including long before WW2, such as in the early 1920s). Though I am not certain about whether and when the Soviet Union considered it a good year and date to invade Germany. The Soviet Union could afford to wait - they had defense in depth, lots of access to natural resources such as oil and gas, and could afford to lose territory, and thus cause attrition and hindrance to any invading enemy.

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rbobjones69 2 points ago +2 / -0

My favorite quote, and I use it daily is from George Santayana: "Those who fail to remember the past are condemned to repeat it." I'm not sure who was more evil, the Nazis or the communists but they had socialism in common.

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TruthyBrat 1 point ago +1 / -0

Arguably the Communists based on the death toll. There’s a good link from me elsewhere in the thread on the numbers.