I remember back in the early 80's in grammar school going over the American Revolution and one of my favorite teachers stating that the newspapers and pamphlets written then were not "the news" but opinions that were robustly debated. I took that to heart and have always questioned anything in the media.
journalism died a long time ago. do you remember a time when journalists actually did reporting by going to the area where something happened and getting facts on the ground? they used to call it "on scene reporting"
they also used to do things like investigative journalism, where sometimes they'd go undercover to infiltrate a group in order to discover the truth. the only group doing this now is project veritas
the vast majority of legacy media now is just employing glorified bloggers who are perfecting the art of the misleading headline while filling the body of the article with a ton of crap thats only used to fill space between advertisements. people that sit in a room all day and never venture outside of their echo chamber bubble they set up for themselves from the day they graduate college until they inevitably get fired when the layoffs start because of a lack of readership. journalism is dead
Ding ding ding. As long as there is mass media there will be powerful people interested in killing stories. How many stories never saw the light of day in the last 100 years?
The whole Stalin thing and the cozying up to the USSR was a big fucking deal. I recently watched a 1944 Hollywood movie and the portrayal of the Soviets was as comrades to the US. A little backwards, but absolutely a fellow traveler. @ this point I'm not convinced that Hitler and his minions were worse. They were both SOBs that many people adored. Hirohito and Mao are in a similar category. What if Britain, France, and the USA just said fuck it and let the assholes go at it. Kind of like Sweden.
Remember when Vice used to send people into really dangerous areas to get some of the best War / Conflict zone coverage in history? Their pieces on Ukraine, ISIS, or even older ones like The Cannibal Warlords of Liberia are well composed and fascinating reports where the reporters get shot at, threatened, and swarmed by angry mobs.
Is this article about the very recent, giant flub that the New York Times made when they published unverified Intel about Russian soldiers putting bounties on American soldiers heads, you might wonder?
NO!
It is about a local paper in Nashville, TN that ran an anti-Muslim ad. The absolute lack of self awareness is INCREDIBLE!!
Tell the residents of Harlem there is ten million dollars in reparations money at the NY Times offices and only the first thousand looters and rioters will get any of it.
A master list of every single correction they have had to make is a great start. Every “anonymous source” and every “persons familiar with the matter/ person’s thinking” is a good round 2.
Does she even read her own paper? The NY Times was just this week pimping an anonymously sourced story written solely to keep us in Afghanistan or start a war with Russia.
They also purposely frame stories so everything always comes up orange man bad, conservative bad, white people bad, Constitution bad, capitalism bad, communism good, cancel culture good, violence good.
Man, this reminds me of that headline they wrote that they had to change. It was something that put the left in a negative light, so they had to change it. What a joke. You can't ask to be trusted when you are literally incapable of framing a story truthfully because of who you might offend. No thanks.
Of course she does... that's why she had to write this article
She knows its 100% bullshit but wants her paychecks coming in for her lazily written ideological opinions. She might have to start doing actual journalism soon and that scares the fuck out of her lol
It's fake, fabricated news. The NYT ran the Russian hoax for two years and won liberal prizes for it -- but the Mueller report concluded ZERO evidence of it.
This miserable opinion piece is like the remaining decomposition gazes escaping the corpse's rotten asshole, with a faint wheeze and a whimper, before falling silent forever.
The NYT's "mistakes" all seem to hurt Trump, though, just like the mistakes made by all of those non partisan career officials in the justice department. Weird!
Epoch Times is the news headlines of journalism outside of the Dem party echo chamber. The greatest political scandal in modern US history is being covered by the Epoch times beat reporters and certainly not the New York Times.
The left says that it is anti-China which proves even greater independence.
The fact that it is operated by a journalist that was jailed by the chinese government that then fled to the US is what made me give it a chance in the first place.
Word. I buy it whenever I see it in the local grocery store. The other newspapers are stacked up untouched because everyone knows it's just dem party supporter BS.
Everyone makes mistakes, lady. What we have a problem with is the media's deliberate bias against conservatism and conservative ideas, and the media's cooperation with domestic terrorists like ANTIFA and BLM to bring in your leftist dystopia by force.
That's not a mistake, you're all just looney tunes and we're sick of hearing your BS
The journalism of the 20th century consisted of huge megacorporations hiring activists to push agendas. The journalism of the 21st century consisted of random people publishing videos taken from cheap cameras affixed as an afterthought to common devices everyone already carried around, while ignoring the dying husks of the megacorps of the previous century. Times...needs to get with the times.
Journalism is dead and the New York Times was the vanguard to its death. They’re the ones who chose instead of writing objectively to bias their articles. They’re the ones who chose to smear the character of those whom they disagreed with. They’re the ones who have tried to gas light their readers. They’re the ones that hires a racist to their editorial board. They’re the ones who have funded racist projects.
I wonder sometimes if there is nobody working at those places that thinks to themselves "Man this place is fucked up, this is not real journalism, this is activism". And I wonder what happens to them, do they just quit and that's it? Would be cool if one of them would join the Trump campaign team. They could run ahead of their ridiculous spins, maybe even feed them the bullshit that they would happily parrot, letting them make a grotesque fool of themselves, yet again. Could be a lot of fun!
Part of liberal brainwashing involves the excision of the capacity to self actualize.
They are taught that they are fighting a war against the second Holocaust and thus they believe that any and all measures are justified even if those measures are completely contradictory to their ideology.
This is probably related to them threatening to reveal Scott Alexander of slate star codex fame true identity last week. He's no Trump fan, but he writes about him sincerely in the article "you are still crying wolf" about leftist hysteria just before the last election. That was part of what got him in the crosshairs, and lots of his fans who are still nominal leftists have been cancelling.
True journalism is simply stating the context, facts, and events as they happened, letting the reader gather their own thoughts and critically think about the issue.
Exactly. We went from hard-hitting investigative journalism to full-on editorializing. Just waiting for the communist media's funeral in a gold-covered casket with wailing sycophants trailing behind.
Excuse me, but journalism is already dead in newspapers. It’s all a bunch of 20-something nitwits writing articles with absolutely no understanding of the world.
Journalism is alive and well at thedonald.win, Infowars, Citizenfreepress, OANN, Breitbart, and thousands of other patriot venues. The corpses in the dinosaur media make millions for lying 24/7, while the rest of us do their job for free.
The death of journalism itself? SIGN ME THE FUCK IN! The profession is due for a hard reset.
'journalism' (it's been dead a long time now in MSM)
The first newspaper in America was a pro-revolution mouthpiece lol
I remember back in the early 80's in grammar school going over the American Revolution and one of my favorite teachers stating that the newspapers and pamphlets written then were not "the news" but opinions that were robustly debated. I took that to heart and have always questioned anything in the media.
Journalism isn't dead, it's always been dead. Now it can be easily exposed for what it is.
MSM: "Journalism is dead and we killed it."
Urinalism.
Yellow Journalism.
Lasis!
Came to say this. Fuck the MSM. Real journalism is now the purview of the independents. This site is realnews. MSM in ALL forms is fakenews.
journalism died a long time ago. do you remember a time when journalists actually did reporting by going to the area where something happened and getting facts on the ground? they used to call it "on scene reporting"
they also used to do things like investigative journalism, where sometimes they'd go undercover to infiltrate a group in order to discover the truth. the only group doing this now is project veritas
the vast majority of legacy media now is just employing glorified bloggers who are perfecting the art of the misleading headline while filling the body of the article with a ton of crap thats only used to fill space between advertisements. people that sit in a room all day and never venture outside of their echo chamber bubble they set up for themselves from the day they graduate college until they inevitably get fired when the layoffs start because of a lack of readership. journalism is dead
Ding ding ding. As long as there is mass media there will be powerful people interested in killing stories. How many stories never saw the light of day in the last 100 years?
100 years ago more people owned newspapers.
Henry Ford ran The Dearborn Independent which was later collected in to The International Jew - The World's foremost problem
The whole Stalin thing and the cozying up to the USSR was a big fucking deal. I recently watched a 1944 Hollywood movie and the portrayal of the Soviets was as comrades to the US. A little backwards, but absolutely a fellow traveler. @ this point I'm not convinced that Hitler and his minions were worse. They were both SOBs that many people adored. Hirohito and Mao are in a similar category. What if Britain, France, and the USA just said fuck it and let the assholes go at it. Kind of like Sweden.
Comparing evil versus evil is not ethical.
One can only guess if picking a side against hitler was the right move.
Hitler was SOB, however, giving a free pass to Soviets was the real loss. Soviets needed to be dismantled after WW2, by force, if necessary.
Newsmen are just narrative presenters
Remember when Vice used to send people into really dangerous areas to get some of the best War / Conflict zone coverage in history? Their pieces on Ukraine, ISIS, or even older ones like The Cannibal Warlords of Liberia are well composed and fascinating reports where the reporters get shot at, threatened, and swarmed by angry mobs.
Now it's just... Vice. Oh how the mighty fall.
Journalists just rephrase whatever the original article said and add their jokes/agenda on top.
Id watch this porn
Top post hijack (maybe u/Anldahoan can add it to their top comment?) to provide archive link
Entire article for the curious
Fucking LOL!!
Is this article about the very recent, giant flub that the New York Times made when they published unverified Intel about Russian soldiers putting bounties on American soldiers heads, you might wonder?
NO!
It is about a local paper in Nashville, TN that ran an anti-Muslim ad. The absolute lack of self awareness is INCREDIBLE!!
It's subliminal.
They want to implant the idea in your mind without looking desperate.
That’s a huge, Eat a Dick from me. They’ve only done it to themselves. Any thoughts on how we can help quicken the demise of the NYT
Dig up articles with racist connotations that would Reee some Karens
But please ignore the racist comments from Sarah Jeong, Korean Karen.
Don't forget every second page is ads, plus if you get it delivered, they stuff bonus ads in there for you.
Not gonna lie I'm pretty nostalgic for the old school newspaper. Was a huge part of my childhood.
I'm sure every kid ever had a paper route too.
I know it was our job to stuff the damn ads into 50 papers everyday.
I used to love reading the newspaper in the morning with my cup of coffee. Thursdays had the fishing reports.
Tell the residents of Harlem there is ten million dollars in reparations money at the NY Times offices and only the first thousand looters and rioters will get any of it.
I heard that the unique Jordans that dont even make it on the market are stored in the basement
A master list of every single correction they have had to make is a great start. Every “anonymous source” and every “persons familiar with the matter/ person’s thinking” is a good round 2.
She really doesn't look like a woman that relishes the thought of eating dicks bruh
Does she even read her own paper? The NY Times was just this week pimping an anonymously sourced story written solely to keep us in Afghanistan or start a war with Russia.
Fuck the NY Times.
Seriously, if the news would stop pissing on my leg and telling me its raining, I might listen to them again.
"newspapers make mistakes"
They also purposely frame stories so everything always comes up orange man bad, conservative bad, white people bad, Constitution bad, capitalism bad, communism good, cancel culture good, violence good.
Their only 'mistake' was overplaying their hand so everyone is figuring out this is what they do.
Their mistakes only go one way
Funny how that works, isn't it?
Man, this reminds me of that headline they wrote that they had to change. It was something that put the left in a negative light, so they had to change it. What a joke. You can't ask to be trusted when you are literally incapable of framing a story truthfully because of who you might offend. No thanks.
Of course she does... that's why she had to write this article
She knows its 100% bullshit but wants her paychecks coming in for her lazily written ideological opinions. She might have to start doing actual journalism soon and that scares the fuck out of her lol
85 years ago the NYT was writing about what a great guy Hitler was. Anyone else had enough of their "mistakes"?
It's fake, fabricated news. The NYT ran the Russian hoax for two years and won liberal prizes for it -- but the Mueller report concluded ZERO evidence of it.
Except my stupid father buys into this shit. He legitimately believes Trump is a Russian agent paid by the KGB.
If they owned up to those mistakes things might be a little different.
There has not been ONE apology for all that Russia hoax garbage.
The problem is they were never taught to own up to mistakes or accept a lose, thus why they double down or use metal gymnastics to perceive a win.
Trophy generation
Nothing they've written in the last 4 years has been a mistake
Gold.
true. a lot of it may have been factually incorrect, but they were never mistakes, to be sure.
The problem is that they always make mistakes the SAME WAY. Always anti-conservative. Every single time.
It already died.
And that's the real point.
This miserable opinion piece is like the remaining decomposition gazes escaping the corpse's rotten asshole, with a faint wheeze and a whimper, before falling silent forever.
Good fucking riddance.
Journalism died long ago. Now it's seditious propaganda pushing for a communist revolution.
A majority of NYT front page stories were actual propaganda, according to the man who wrote the book on it, Edward Bernays.
The NYT's "mistakes" all seem to hurt Trump, though, just like the mistakes made by all of those non partisan career officials in the justice department. Weird!
It's the Democratic Party newsletter, along with Dem friendly RINOs.
Journalism? The nerve of that Globalist SJW hack....
Mistakes? You and the other organizations are blatantly and purposely straight up lying to us every day.
Shaming their remaining customers. Great strategy from the walking dead.
"... hasten the death of journalism itself"
Uh ya - that's the fuckn point FFS
Ummm, That is the point bitch.
and she forgot the quotes around "journalism"
I don't shun Newspapers. The Epoch Times is great!
Epoch Times is the news headlines of journalism outside of the Dem party echo chamber. The greatest political scandal in modern US history is being covered by the Epoch times beat reporters and certainly not the New York Times.
The left says that it is anti-China which proves even greater independence.
The fact that it is operated by a journalist that was jailed by the chinese government that then fled to the US is what made me give it a chance in the first place.
Word. I buy it whenever I see it in the local grocery store. The other newspapers are stacked up untouched because everyone knows it's just dem party supporter BS.
Everyone makes mistakes, lady. What we have a problem with is the media's deliberate bias against conservatism and conservative ideas, and the media's cooperation with domestic terrorists like ANTIFA and BLM to bring in your leftist dystopia by force.
That's not a mistake, you're all just looney tunes and we're sick of hearing your BS
Everyone is entitled to one or two mistakes if they walk away with a lesson learned.
How many mistakes has NYT made and how many lessons have they learned?
Please don't leave, we haven't finished telling you what a pathetic, racist asshole you are yet!
More gold.
I'm pretty sure journalists killed journalism.
Purposely printing lies is not a "mistake"
Cancel culture doesn't mean our subscription reeeeee
This is the same tactic of calling something what it's not to change the narrative.
"Don't cancel NYT that's killing journalism!"
Free market bitches! Maybe the truth is becoming more important that sensational ratings on garbage fabricated stories?
We should mass send salt to NYT again lmao
The journalism of the 20th century consisted of huge megacorporations hiring activists to push agendas. The journalism of the 21st century consisted of random people publishing videos taken from cheap cameras affixed as an afterthought to common devices everyone already carried around, while ignoring the dying husks of the megacorps of the previous century. Times...needs to get with the times.
Journalism is dead and the New York Times was the vanguard to its death. They’re the ones who chose instead of writing objectively to bias their articles. They’re the ones who chose to smear the character of those whom they disagreed with. They’re the ones who have tried to gas light their readers. They’re the ones that hires a racist to their editorial board. They’re the ones who have funded racist projects.
New York Times, you killed yourself.
A suicide far too long and apparent. Rest in pieces.
Please clap
LOL
Nyt doesn't do journalism
Learn to code
“It’s afraid!”
Writing opinionated drivel instead of facts killed journalism. The world will be a better place when failed newspapers like the NYT are gone.
She has yet to realize that journalism has been dead for decades.
"Journalism is Still Alive" is Fake News.
The Woke Editorial Coup they had recently probably didn't help like they though it would.
Journalism? Activism.
If the NYT is saying not to cancel the newspaper, that is a good sign it is way past time to cancel the newspaper.
Well ... bye.
Journalism in the MSM died a long time ago. We thought it was in 2016, but it was probably long before that.
I would say Journalism is dead, but Project Veritas proves otherwise.
I wonder sometimes if there is nobody working at those places that thinks to themselves "Man this place is fucked up, this is not real journalism, this is activism". And I wonder what happens to them, do they just quit and that's it? Would be cool if one of them would join the Trump campaign team. They could run ahead of their ridiculous spins, maybe even feed them the bullshit that they would happily parrot, letting them make a grotesque fool of themselves, yet again. Could be a lot of fun!
Part of liberal brainwashing involves the excision of the capacity to self actualize.
They are taught that they are fighting a war against the second Holocaust and thus they believe that any and all measures are justified even if those measures are completely contradictory to their ideology.
This is probably spot on... They must think Trump is literally Hitler, if it wasn't for the media standing up to him or something.
The current form of Journalism needs to die, it is nothing but lies and activism.
Real Journalism in the mainstream is long gone.
You'll still need to wipe when the TP runs out again
The sooner the NYT closes, the better for this country. Worthless propaganda rag.
This is probably related to them threatening to reveal Scott Alexander of slate star codex fame true identity last week. He's no Trump fan, but he writes about him sincerely in the article "you are still crying wolf" about leftist hysteria just before the last election. That was part of what got him in the crosshairs, and lots of his fans who are still nominal leftists have been cancelling.
Ps: I cannot recommend that article enough.
True journalism is simply stating the context, facts, and events as they happened, letting the reader gather their own thoughts and critically think about the issue.
None of this can be found in "journalism".
Exactly. We went from hard-hitting investigative journalism to full-on editorializing. Just waiting for the communist media's funeral in a gold-covered casket with wailing sycophants trailing behind.
HAHAHHHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!
Cancelling my NYT fake news subscription a couple years ago was the best feeling
Excuse me, but journalism is already dead in newspapers. It’s all a bunch of 20-something nitwits writing articles with absolutely no understanding of the world.
If you want a news paper to read try the Epoch Times.
Journalism is alive and well at thedonald.win, Infowars, Citizenfreepress, OANN, Breitbart, and thousands of other patriot venues. The corpses in the dinosaur media make millions for lying 24/7, while the rest of us do their job for free.