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And when you try to rationalize it thinking it's ridiculous, look around you. They're killing babies in the womb. Serving up children to Paedos. Infiltrating the House of God (Vatican is compromised). Redefining morality. And directly and openly attacking Christianity.
I felt the same way and then I was led to a number of resources for traditional (pre-Vatican II), no-excuses Catholicism. I went and met a priest yesterday at a Latin Mass parish and have started down the long road to conversion and baptism. The resources are out there allow yourself to be led back.
Or foot washing? Which btw has been so degraded by clergy looking for photo ops. I'm a nurse and when I was a student I had an instructor that truly lived a Christian life. One of the things I learned from her was the humility involved in taking care of another human being, no matter what their status, medical condition or degree of likeablity. One of her areas of grading us was the condition of our patient's feet. We were taught to treat the whole person, including washing, drying and "annointing" some of the grossest, wart covered, leather skinned feet on the planet, belonging to some of the most unpleasant and unappealing people. It's hard to explain, but it made us all better nurses.
I recently came back to the Catholic Church. Before Trump got elected, my health insurance premiums had sky rocketed. I couldn't keep up with payments between healthcare and mortgage. About a year ago, I got a job offer, took the job, moved out of Minneapolis, returned the Church. I just can't tell ya how the grace of God just flipped a switch in my heart. I've never been one to bother much with religious talk but now I'm annoying people with it. I probably need to work on that. Hahaha! I used to insult people who did that. I have never ever been happier in my life. I still got a mountain of debt to work off but I am finally seeing the light at the end of the tunnel, both the spiritual light and the temporal light.
Two things turned my life around and made me happier than I ever thought I'd be: Our Lord Jesus Christ and Donald J. Trump.
Also: My entire family is way better. We don't yell at each other and insult each other anymore. I have been surprised at how much we're willing to work with each other and help each other now.
Good for you and family. I really don't think it matters which brand of Christianity we follow, every branch has been infiltrated to a greater or lesser degree by evil. That does not matter, it matters that we worship within one Christian affiliation. Tradition and rules are not what makes us Christian. Love for one another and devotion to Christ is what makes us Christians. Followers of Christ, not some earthly appointed leader.
I came back to the Catholic Church too. God bless you and your family. You point is well taken. Most of the problems that we see are the result of a lack of faith in God. Too many people don't realize why their lives are so empty.
Dude. This. So fucking this. I was raised southern Baptist now I'm a non denominational hippie but damn if we got a Pope that would clean house, hang pedos, and called a crusade on...I dunno...California? I be down
I wonder if the Solar Minimum is realted to the demonic dark spiritual assault?...Another material manifestation of the spiritual War... The Solar wind/radiation protect our solar system froms cosmic Ray's coming from outside it...
Not far off. Donald.Win is already editing comments. Had one comment edited the other day to remove a mention of the Antichrist. Left the rest of the post intact but edited out the Antichrist part. Also I was very conspicuously locked from editing the comment again
If I could somehow go back in time to get screenshots I would. You're really going to be that skeptical because it goes against your presumptions about .Win actually being different from the rest of the internet? It IS the internet. All the same shit, only the names change
People misinterpret what Nietzsche was saying. He said "God is dead -- and we killed him!" Meaning, we have erased everything about God that made him God, tried to put him in a box, limit his domain, and in doing so, we killed him entirely.
God was not meant to live in a box, bound by our mortal and flawed reasoning. God was meant to be worshiped and adored, reverenced and obeyed.
My brother talks about "slave mentality" -- Nietzsche's observation that the weak and pathetic people reinvent God to be a God of the weak and humble, not the God of the rich who blesses people richly with wealth, strength, and power when they obey and serve his infinite self.
My God is the God of War, the God of Peace, the God of Victory and the God of Defeat. He rules and reigns over earth and heaven, and has subdued hell to make it his domain. He is the God of Life and the God of Death.
God did not need re-inventing to be the God of the weak and humble - The Living God is their advocate, for He is a strong witness against the rich and powerful who take advantage of their weakness and humility, to profit off of that. We know these kinds of wealthy and powerful as people who exercise predatory practices upon others - survival of the fittest kind. The Living God tells us the strong are to use their prosperity to honor and lift up the weaker - to use their strength to show and enable the weaker toward prosperity.
What today's "weak" do not understand is that the Living God is also the God of prosperity and success ("It is I who teaches you how to profit" Isaiah 48:17). The Commandment "You shall not covet!" is a hedge against the weaker, poorer man lusting for that which God has blessed another person with - aka, the more successful who is seen as favored. False accusation, unjust taxation, and confiscatory practices are properly labelled as theft by God - Contrary to His basic character of not stealing, not even in the least degree. Today's Marxist/Communist/Fascist movements are rejected by God as contrary to His Gospel.
The Living God is the God of all people, thou not all people will choose to honor His Sovereignty.
Yeah Everytime I here this I think of a quote from Chesterton (and I'm paraphrasing to a disgusting degree) that goes " everyone thinks that the lion laying down with the lamb means the lion must become lamb like but that is gross imperialism on the part of the lamb"
"Christianity has kept red and white but it has hated pink"
Basically saying God has the most of both nature's
The movie, Book of Eli frames that argument quite well.
The bible and other religious books are ultimately the most effective way to civilize man.
A man can plot and plan against a king that sits on a throne in a stone and mortar castle, whereas an all seeing and all knowing super being... that will punish you or give you paradise based on how you behave on earth?
That is true power. The bible is a brilliant way to bring about civilization.
You cannot have a civilization until people can be assured that their neighbor won't come at them with an axe just because he looked at them the wrong way. THOU SHALT NOT KILL and LOVE THY NEIGHBOR were radical concepts at the time, and that plus the other basic tenets of the Bible bring about a group consciousness in which thriving civilization can be built. The Bible transforms savages into citizens. Without it, everything devolves into chaos.
Jesus, in fact, told his disciples it is better to hang a millstone around the neck and toss them off a bridge, those people that offend little children.
Jesus also told is disciples to sell their cloak and buy a sword.
Not even just that, prior to Islam, the Middle East was an academic utopia. And then you can look at 1950’s Iran and Iraq vs today and see what the resurgence of fundamentalism has done.
Hey! Mohammad waited until Aisha was 9 before he had sex with her. For the 3 years prior to that he was an upstanding gentleman and simply rubbed his member between her thighs.
the commies try to get in a foothold over one's spirit by taking the GLORY of God out of the message of God... acting like "Welp. Sure love thy neighbor is good, but I mean anyone could have come up with that." Uhhhh NO.
The goal for them being to take the God out of his own words, and leave the husk empty for them to fill with new-age garbage about 'positivity' and 'Mother Earth' and 'innate morality' and whatever nonsense they can plausibly spew that will lead you astray. So yeah, agree 1000%.
The movie, Book of Eli frames that argument quite well.
It is a beautiful movie. The rarest book. With the eternal truth. Carried by a blind man. A blind man. That could see clearly. A simple man delivering the clarity of the truth.
Exactly. Life as we know it today would not be possible or at least highly unlikely without Judeo-Christian morality as its foundation. The state of today's world where many have rejected such teachings is a fair testament to that.
I see the bible as divine word. Its not so much that following it is 'civilizing' us, it is that following it is making us more holy, and what happens when people do that is: civilization.
I think his point is the result is the same no matter which is the actual truth, something that is difficult if not impossible/heretical for a believer to contemplate. Understandably so.
That is the core tenet of the DNC brainwashing ---> there is no such thing as true evil, and there is no such thing as a truly evil person.
This leads eventually to things like pedoapologists and science articles talking about how its perfectly normal and healthy to pay at a spa to get a young blood transfusion or a blood facial, or how theres not really anything wrong with selling dead babies, etc.
The only way the apology will work is if the crowd is already geared to be searching for some explanation that tells them that there is no truly evil person or organized force. People like us see straight through that shit because we have seen the evil that lies in the hearts of some "men", we know their game.
And that game is pretending for the ignorant masses that they are NOT evil. Just misunderstood. This is the most basic and necessary part of the dnc brainwash message.
We had aerial images of the camps. They knew which barracks had been gassed since snow would only accumulate on the roofs of empty barracks. We knew. John 19:11 'therefore he that delivered me unto thee hath greater sin'. We could have interdicted those rail lines, but chose not to. A decision was made - right or wrong - that interfering with the holocaust was not a strategic priority.
Surely not just straight up shot, like yah if someone’s in immediate danger right then to protect the person then yah shoot them, but like that’s not what the person deserves. They deserve to be arrested and processed through the criminal justice program. I don’t think that the punishment for any of that is capital in any state unless the people they beat end up dead.
Capital punishment can only be carried out in the US for treason, espionage, multiple murders, large scale drug trafficking, or murder of a witness or juror. There’s no capital punishment for battery or arson. Yes you have the right to defend yourself or someone else but I’m talking about what are legal system says someone who does those things deserves.
Fucking Christ how many times do I have to say self defense is the exception?? I said it in the first sentence of my first comment and I said it again in the comment you’re replying to. I also am not changing the subject because I made it clear I was just talking about what our legal system says those crimes deserve.
The first guy said if you’re a commie and you’re rioting and beating people then “you should be shot.” I was saying that our legal system doesn’t agree with him and I agree with our legal system, that when our legal system evaluates those crimes they won’t come to the conclusion that they should be shot. Yes our legal system allows people to defend themselves but that is not our legal system passing a judgement on what that crime and person deserve. I don’t think the perpetrator deserves to die from doing those things, but if they get killed in the process then oh well, that’s their fault and no one’s gonna cry over it. That’s different than saying they should be shot.
If someone is rioting and threatens to burn down my home or harm my family or neighbors, I'm going to take them at their fucking word and shoot, not wait until the 80 year old French woman across the street has been dragged from her home and is bleeding in the street.
Yah of course, if you believe the threat is credible and can convince a court that it’s credible which shouldn’t be too hard to prove at that point. I’m not saying you can’t shoot them in self defense or defense of another, I’m just saying based on our legal system they don’t deserve to be shot or killed (though they forfeit protection from the law while they are endangering others). They deserve a long long jail sentence. I just don’t support people going out and looking for violence to respond to with violence. I’ve seen that make things worse too many times. I don’t want mob rule by either side.
The crusades were a justified response to continuous Muslim aggression and Islamic incursion upon traditionally Christian lands..... The crusaders themselves did some dickish things, but so did the Muslims
Overall, hell yea the crusades were defensive, n glorious might I add
The crusades were a defensive operation in an attempt to stymie Islamic imperialism. Had there been no Crusades there's a good chance we'd be speaking Arabic and praying to Allah right now.
There's also the fact that Christianity underwent a reformation whereas Islam has not.
That is a popular misconception of the Crusades. I'd recommend watching the channel realcrusadeshistory on youtube for a proper academic view of the Crusades. There is a big divide between actual Crusade history and the common narrative.
I tell my kids some of the stories of the crusades -- the real stories -- as stories of faith and hope, that God does not abandon us in our hour of need.
I don't get why every company gets to virtue signal and push their worldview on everyone, but as soon as Christians speak out or have a different opinion, we get shouted out of the conversation as bigots.
We cannot give way on certain issues because our worldview prohibits it.
because christians are particularly difficult to control.
globohomo is going to need us all to be okay with slavery and pedophilia and blood drinking. Christians do not have flexible morals. We have an unfailing compass that never lies. So they can't pull their bullshit with us in the way.
I think it's more about control than morality. The key to Christianity/religion is faith/belief in something beyond and bigger than us, a God. If you can dilute or erase that from the minds of believers, then they'll turn to anything to replace it.
Yes, Christ's death was the worst crime in history but also foreordained to save God's elect. God often uses sinful men in His providence, such as the Egyptian soldiers in Exodus and the Assyrian empire later in the history of His people. The sinful men are still responsible for their evil though--none of the blame is on God.
I think this is what you were expressing friend, I just wanted to add to your point.
We are told throughout the Bible in many different ways that the world is hostile to God and his people. Satan has waged war against God and his people for thousands of years.
There's always an excuse given to hate Christians that is palatable to greater society at large and seems to make logical sense in a depraved mind without God, but in the end is just a deception used by Satan. Under Nero, it was because Christians wouldn't worship the Roman gods and so invoked divine condemnation on Roman society at large. In our present day in Western civilization, the reason given is that Christians are racist, homophobic, and bigoted.
Never mind the fact that the social order implemented by God is always more orderly and humane than the social order it supplants. See ancient Israel vs the surrounding Ancient Near Eastern Mesopotamian, Hittite, Egyptian, and Canaanite cultures, or how barbarian cultures in Europe in the first millennium AD changed for the better after mass conversion to Christianity. Also see the reverse in cultures that rejected God, such as under communist regimes in the 20th century.
I'm an atheist... but.. the more I study the western civilization, our democracy, our laws, our history, or economy..... there's a pattern with the scriptures, the englightenment, core christian values.
I have come to believe in grand, or potentially even divine justice. There's a pattern to everything, if we "sin" by dropping the ball justice-wise a 'karma' comes our way that can ruin an entire generation.
World War 2 was brought on by massive social injustice.. what is happening now .. worries me, because the social injustice dwafs the one that preciptated world war 2.
Perhaps I will one day flip from being an atheist to devout believer.. it;'s all there except for the belief that an allpowerful entity can save us. We have to save ourselves. Those of us that fight for human rights, freedom and take responsibility grow into beautiful human beings, while those that consistently fail to do so wallow in intellectual darkness.
Perhaps upvoting and commenting on the right posts is akin to praying, if so, then here at thedonald.win, we do not pray to a false god.
I'm an atheist... but.. the more I study the western civilization, our democracy, our laws, our history, or economy..... there's a pattern with the scriptures, the englightenment, core christian values.
Yes Fren… To understand The Age of Enlightenment… reason , liberty, progress, toleration, fraternity, constitutional government and separation of church and state.
Is to Understand America and the Constitution …
No matter are backgrounds, beliefs or group we belong to we are all brothers and sisters in America. And Individuals.
99% of the time when someone says they are an atheist they just mean they lack a belief in god. That’s a fact. There’s no need for insults. Our country has a strong history of free thought in its founding along side its religious history and booth have shaped this culture that we are trying to save from the Marxist left. Infighting will not serve us. It will not serve us spiritually or help us achieve our goals.
To you I am. Any deity I could even imagine wouldn't bear any resemblance to any of the current popular gods. They clash too much with observable reality.
Wrong atheism is just the "absence of belief". Militant atheists do what you say and ruin the label for all. Kinda like how most of are liberal in the sense of having the duty of conserving liberty but the left has hijacked that label too
I'm a devout Christian but what he says is technically correct. There's no reason to call him names.
"Atheism" by definition is just a lack of belief in God, which is how kman591 and many other non-militant atheists tend to use it. That said, the term "atheism" has taken on a greatly expanded definition in the modern era that usually carries with it an implied belief in materialism, anti-theism, secular humanism and pseduo-religious belief in the power of science.
TL:DR; basically, I "hope for the best" but I prepare for the worst, that and it's good 'shielding' in public.
No, I refuse to take the chance that 'something' bigger than me can take care of the problems of the world. I will take responsibility, personally.
Part of a problem the Muslim countries have is that their faith compells them to "submit" to God. Fixing problems is not so important to them, because God will fix it.
Technically, I am agnostic in my beliefs, but in my practice I am an atheist.
Tough talk and what you believe are two different things, when people ask me, I am an atheist, through and through.
Only when talking to those who have understanding, compassion and integrity, I can elaborate the above. So to you, u/FuckYourCouch the answer is actually yes, despite my starting with no.
You seem to be the type that thinks in very logical terms. I think you would really enjoy reading “Mere Christianity” by C.S Lewis. It is a very thorough laid out groundwork of why he came to the logic conclusion that it makes more sense for there to be a God (and one who saves) then there not to be. Even if you aren’t in the market for a religious conversion the small book is a really great read for those who like to enjoy books on reasoning and philosophy.
Without God, moral relativism will reign supreme on both sides of the political spectrum. Without a God-centered objective moral foundation, you will see a decay in the moral fabric of society that will inevitably effect all aspects of life. Obviously our nation is currently in an advanced state (Weimar levels) of moral decay that has transpired for decades now. So do not be surprised when you see the accelerated rise and acceptance of drag-queen story hours and children being exposed before naked men at pride parades.
This degeneracy happens because we have lost our moral compass that used to be occupied by God. This vacancy is now constantly being filled by the latest cultural zeitgeist, no matter how degenerate. So again, do not be surprised when you see the left zealously espousing their political doctrine as if it were a religion, thats because it is...from where there used to be a life of purpose and order in obedience to God, with the inner peace that comes from the Holy-Spirit and faith in Jesus Christ.. there is now only a life in constant pursuit of purpose-seeking to a political ideology that has gone mad.
THIS. One of the biggest things people miss is that the moral anchoring provided by accepting God AS God actually provides the route to emotional stability and happiness. We are designed to be in connection with him.
The left (folks like Depok Chopra, and Oprah) have been trying to push their own godless faith system of spirituality into the mainstream in order to make up for the fact that they've tried to tear away Christ as the cornerstone of this civilization. I'm sure you've noticed the strong push for yoga, meditation, the idea of karma, and all of the other Hindu-based practices without actually calling it Hinduism.
Ravi Zachirias did a really good book about this exact topic.
THIS. One of the biggest things people miss is that the moral anchoring provided by accepting God AS God actually provides the route to emotional stability and happiness. We are designed to be in connection with him.
morality is simply whatever those who are strongest says it is. Subjective rights are not rights -- they are merely privileges bestowed by those in power upon those they favor. This is why the Left always attacks our rights using the notion of "privilege,"
They voted to place this constitutional amendment on the ballot for Nov. 2020. Per Ballotpedia: "The California Repeal Proposition 209 Affirmative Action Amendment is on the ballot in California as a legislatively referred constitutional amendment on November 3, 2020."
For any Cali pede, look up the props on the ballot for Nov. 2020. Felons voting, 17 year-olds voting, etc. Makes me sick. We managed to stop a prop in Mar 2020 affecting property taxes. Hope we continue in the same vein.🙏
I have a perfectly righteous set of morals. I behave well and live cleanly. Religion, no matter which faith you preach, is not something I need or ever will need. I use the knowledge I've accumulated to lead me to the right decisions. Decisions that benefit the country, that promote equality, that bring happiness, prosperity, and freedom. That knowledge with those ideals in mind led me to Trump. Any atheist who is worth their genetic code would come to the same conclusion.
But just because I can do that doesn't mean that everyone else can, and I respect that people have different needs and different values. I believe wholeheartedly in freedom of religion. Just because I disbelieve in it doesn't mean I'm correct, and the freedom of the people to decide their own beliefs is what will lead us humans to the correct choice. It's the market of ideas, and the principles behind it are just the same as the capitalist market (true capitalism).
Though you could say that the lack of god would be forceful removal of religion, which would just be a religion crusade in the opposite direction. Certainly not an environment that would bring order.
So you could say now that my write up was rather meaningless.
Though you could say that the lack of god would be forceful removal of religion, which would just be a religion crusade in the opposite direction. Certainly not an environment that would bring order.
Enforcing a lack of belief, as was done in Soviet Union, can definitely be as much a crusade as a Divine-based crusade. In either circumstance, it's people using violence derived from their belief (in the case of the atheist the belief that there is no divine).
As Thrashinuva points out, atheism doesn't lead to enforcement of atheism. Anyone who would enforce any belief or non-belief system is an evil dictator. Historically, atheists aren't the only folks who've enforced belief systems. Our founding fathers got it right. Freedom of religion/thought is the only thing that works.
That’s fine for y’all. I support religious rights and religious freedoms. I support president trump. And I disagree with your assertion. I posit that individual liberty and equality under the law are the principles that guide us and unite us.
Hate me if you want. Downvote me too. But I will continue To be visible in this movement and I will continue to demonstrate the diversity of opinions that can coexist here. I exist and there are many more like me. We are your allies in the fight to defeat the left and cultural marxists. And I maintain my freedom of thought and conscience is FREE from state control from marxists or from any other religious group.
I'm an atheist, but I'm perfectly willing to align myself with the Christians. I don't think that order can be maintained without a moral framework and clearly secularism is not working.
Athiest here, very dissapointed with those who actively throw shade on religion. I find those people without religion to be much more unhappy.
I had a spiritual awakening of sorts couple years ago listening to people like Jordan Peterson (who is also not religious) and he opened my eyes to a new understanding of religion. You don't have to believe it's scientifically true to believe it is morally true. Like President Trump.....something can be DIRECTIONALLY true.
EDIT: Watch Jordan Peterson Bible lecture series. It's pretty profound if you are open minded. It's his interpretation, so it's not 100% fact, but it gives a different perspective and shows why religion, and Christianity is particular, has been so effective in creating productive societies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-wWBGo6a2w
His interview with Jesse Lee Peterson was very interesting. Jesse basically got him to admit that he can't accept God because it would mean he has to let go of the idea of free will, and he can't do that because it would mean forgiving his mother for what she did to him.
Stefan even knowingly says the reason he is into philosophy in the first place is mostly a reaction to his mother telling him not to question things. He may one day wake up but I still respect him for acknowledging he was wrong about Christianity. That's hard for an atheist to do.
His philosophy is flawed. God is the epitome of free will. He does not bound your ability to choose. He simply says there are consequences for choices and then lays out a framework that encourages good choices to receive good consequences.
Have you ever done anything that you knew wasn't right but you couldn't help doing it? Or promised yourself you would never do this again, and you still did it? How is that possible if you have a free will and you control what you do?
I used to believe in the lie of a free will, so I understand where you are coming from. The reality is there are two paths, God's path and Satan's path. You are following one or the other and there is no choice about it. God chooses his people, the truth seekers, those who want to follow. Everyone else is of the world and not of the spirit, and they really can't help the evil that they do.
That is why Chyna tries so hard to hammer their empty culture in with propaganda. Xi talked and posed so much as a traditionalist Confucian. That's right, the same "glorious culture" that knelt to Genghis Khan and his Horde. The same culture that knelt to the Manchou.
Chyna's culture is built on sand. They all know it deep down.
Atheist says “we dont need God to be a good person”
True. But you use all of Gods laws and moral order to do so which are written in the Bible.. its only common sense what is good and what is bad once a person understands it. But that understanding COMES FROM GOD AND THE LORD JESUS CHRIST!!!! NONE ELSE
Your entire understanding of logic comes from God. Reason and logic come out of are what we in the faith call Understanding and wisdom. From these logic and reason are mere branches of the two. For once something is known it is no longer pondered over or given to critical thinking.
Your entire mind-set whether it be with God or against is foundationally based on the ALREADY KNOWN KNOWLEDGE of Good and Evil. Which GOD SAID "I imputed into all men my laws into their hearts so that even on judgement day their own conscious will convict them. "
You nor I nor anyone who has ever lived or ever will live outside of Christ the Lord God knew that killing was wrong at birth. The entire point is between Choices. And those choices are what the frame work of what our environment promotes or throws away
To be or not to be?.
To do good or to do evil?.
To care or not care?
To do wrong or to do right?
To enact justice or let injustice spread?
To love or to hate?
To live or to die?
Etc.
These are not learned in nature. They are taught to us.. Parents, friends, teachers, entertainment, literature and experiences etc.
And who taught us is what every great person in history has to declare. The creator of their person is greater. But should he be obeyed and honored is the question we all have to ask ourselves.
To obey and honor?
Or
To disobey his laws (which you know) and dishonor him by doing so.?.
Insisting that others have reason, understanding, and common sense only because your God bestowed these gifts upon them isn't an argument at all - it's simply a statement of your personal faith. I'm not attacking your religion or your beliefs. You're welcome to believe whatever you want. But plenty of people start with "cogito ergo sum" and, through observation and objective reasoning, arrive at a set of morals that any reasonable person would describe as good. Your insistence that it's not possible for others to reach similar conclusions about morals via other paths simply doesn't hold water. Live long and prosper.
All people have the ability to learn. Some just choose not to accept it.
Why do you think most of the world accepted Christianity when it first came?
The men of God of old, before Christ came and then later after his death Christians had to teach the pagan world that murder is wrong, so is adultery, and cannibalism and so on.
These people (men of God) have been apart of every civilization and are accounted for teaching people the ways of righteousness. Before them their world was full of lawlessness. Now that the world does know the laws of God, it's in our DNA to accept it when we come to know it or deny it. That's is the reality of this world. And that's not debatable.
You choose everything. Either to do good or to do evil. Stop defending the notion that man learned these things naturally. They did not and we zee clearly today they continue to deny the self-made evidence of truth and lies for the sole purpose of self pleasure.
Always felt this was a war between Good and Evil... God and Satan.. President Trump and the rest of us are just in the way, as it's been said. Sometimes I feel like what can I do other than vote for this President, and redpill others into voting for Him. I pray every day that we make it. If Democrats take over, I truly believe it's the end of the world as we know it. Just look at what's happening.....
Opposite of this would be Marx saying that Religion is the opiate of the people.
They don't want separation of church and state, they only want statism.
We need to remember that America was founded because of God. I strongly believe that America is the promise Land, however if we stray too far from God then he will take his hand from us. I believe that as long as a good portion of the population stays strong then we have a chance.
Look at the Torah and Gospels and how they radically encouraged justice, cleanliness, and general order compared to the lawless pagans around the Jews who ascribed to these teachings. That’s why we must continue America’s identity as a Judeo-Christian nation.
Some people worship their stomachs, their bank accounts, drugs, manipulating others, their career...
SJWs have a god too.
We really do love in a Warhammer40k type scenario- western civ with it's science tried to come to the logical conclusion that there is no God because He can't be observed empirically.
It's the same as the Emperor's, beloved by all, enforced atheism.
But humans CANNOT do it. We just can't. Look how religiously these leftists do EVERYTHING. Some of these protestors are possessed. If you've ever been around an angry mob I don't know how you can say spirits aren't real.
I am a classroom teacher, and let me tell you, spirits can take over a room of teenagers quick.
I can appreciate agnostics and people of other faiths. It is hard to have faith, very hard, for some, without proof. We who have met God and Lord Jesus pray that you strive to meet the Exogoneous Creator as we have and join us in fellowship.
Some of you reject any notion of God but accept and welcome philosophical debate on the simulation hypothesis, that we are in a simulation, a giant supercomputer, characters in a video game of sorts, and so on. Philip K. Dick called the controller VALIS. Well, if you believe all that, wouldn't you have to also believe that hyper dimensional controller or beings or whatever would respect Christians first for reaching the moon first and then actually doing communion there? Obviously, if we are in some game, Christians scored HUGE points with that Boss Level maneuver.
If you are a nonbeliever, or a believer who rejects Lord Jesus, I would highly suggest that you hedge your bets like everything else in life and at least respect that Christians were first to the moon surface, and honored our Lord there by communion. If the hyper dimensional space aliens or whatever are watching, wouldn't they respect that?
You're welcome. It is a fascinating story, and of course it was supposed to be broadcast live to the world but some atheists objected. God smiled! Cannot be undone, ever! Historical fact of mankind!
DEUS VULT
Time to start laser-etching Latin into our weapons to enchant them. We're fighting demons now.
And when you try to rationalize it thinking it's ridiculous, look around you. They're killing babies in the womb. Serving up children to Paedos. Infiltrating the House of God (Vatican is compromised). Redefining morality. And directly and openly attacking Christianity.
I'm surprised we're not casting silver bullets.
That is incredible.
You might be onto something wit dem silver bullets. And we can smear pork grease on them for good measure... just to be double sure.
I felt the same way and then I was led to a number of resources for traditional (pre-Vatican II), no-excuses Catholicism. I went and met a priest yesterday at a Latin Mass parish and have started down the long road to conversion and baptism. The resources are out there allow yourself to be led back.
Canon188.com
This. I'm atheist, but let me know when Christians stop kissing feet and start swinging swords, and I'll proudly wear that cross.
Or foot washing? Which btw has been so degraded by clergy looking for photo ops. I'm a nurse and when I was a student I had an instructor that truly lived a Christian life. One of the things I learned from her was the humility involved in taking care of another human being, no matter what their status, medical condition or degree of likeablity. One of her areas of grading us was the condition of our patient's feet. We were taught to treat the whole person, including washing, drying and "annointing" some of the grossest, wart covered, leather skinned feet on the planet, belonging to some of the most unpleasant and unappealing people. It's hard to explain, but it made us all better nurses.
embarrassing questions, yeah, Incomprehensible? Not so much. Never been a Psyche nurse.
FSSP, dude. Check em out.
I recently came back to the Catholic Church. Before Trump got elected, my health insurance premiums had sky rocketed. I couldn't keep up with payments between healthcare and mortgage. About a year ago, I got a job offer, took the job, moved out of Minneapolis, returned the Church. I just can't tell ya how the grace of God just flipped a switch in my heart. I've never been one to bother much with religious talk but now I'm annoying people with it. I probably need to work on that. Hahaha! I used to insult people who did that. I have never ever been happier in my life. I still got a mountain of debt to work off but I am finally seeing the light at the end of the tunnel, both the spiritual light and the temporal light.
Two things turned my life around and made me happier than I ever thought I'd be: Our Lord Jesus Christ and Donald J. Trump.
Also: My entire family is way better. We don't yell at each other and insult each other anymore. I have been surprised at how much we're willing to work with each other and help each other now.
Good for you and family. I really don't think it matters which brand of Christianity we follow, every branch has been infiltrated to a greater or lesser degree by evil. That does not matter, it matters that we worship within one Christian affiliation. Tradition and rules are not what makes us Christian. Love for one another and devotion to Christ is what makes us Christians. Followers of Christ, not some earthly appointed leader.
I came back to the Catholic Church too. God bless you and your family. You point is well taken. Most of the problems that we see are the result of a lack of faith in God. Too many people don't realize why their lives are so empty.
Amen to that, Orthobro.
Dude. This. So fucking this. I was raised southern Baptist now I'm a non denominational hippie but damn if we got a Pope that would clean house, hang pedos, and called a crusade on...I dunno...California? I be down
Might make the Mexicans turn more red fo too.
... who said we weren’t casting bullets in silver?
Yep it’s the ultimate twofer.
Sounds expensive.
In the name of all that is good and holy, please repost that image next Sunday Gunday.
I wonder if the Solar Minimum is realted to the demonic dark spiritual assault?...Another material manifestation of the spiritual War... The Solar wind/radiation protect our solar system froms cosmic Ray's coming from outside it...
You have been banned from participating in /r/The_Donald.
the crusade will participate against them.
👆this
Spez will be begging for crusaders to fuck his wife before it’s over.
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Not far off. Donald.Win is already editing comments. Had one comment edited the other day to remove a mention of the Antichrist. Left the rest of the post intact but edited out the Antichrist part. Also I was very conspicuously locked from editing the comment again
Proof or it didn't happen.
If I could somehow go back in time to get screenshots I would. You're really going to be that skeptical because it goes against your presumptions about .Win actually being different from the rest of the internet? It IS the internet. All the same shit, only the names change
What the heck?
Back to the topic subject, pack your spiritual bags Christians, we are going Home sooner than we think! (IMHO)
DEUS VULT!
Our Lady of Victory (Battle of Lepanto),
Pray for us!
Love the Battle of Lepanto, best ever
Gross.
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I will only kneel to God! 🙇♂️
And stand for the fallen.
When God is dead, and the State refuses to enforce law and order, there is chaos and nihilism.
People misinterpret what Nietzsche was saying. He said "God is dead -- and we killed him!" Meaning, we have erased everything about God that made him God, tried to put him in a box, limit his domain, and in doing so, we killed him entirely.
God was not meant to live in a box, bound by our mortal and flawed reasoning. God was meant to be worshiped and adored, reverenced and obeyed.
My brother talks about "slave mentality" -- Nietzsche's observation that the weak and pathetic people reinvent God to be a God of the weak and humble, not the God of the rich who blesses people richly with wealth, strength, and power when they obey and serve his infinite self.
My God is the God of War, the God of Peace, the God of Victory and the God of Defeat. He rules and reigns over earth and heaven, and has subdued hell to make it his domain. He is the God of Life and the God of Death.
Not to be a nit-pic...
God did not need re-inventing to be the God of the weak and humble - The Living God is their advocate, for He is a strong witness against the rich and powerful who take advantage of their weakness and humility, to profit off of that. We know these kinds of wealthy and powerful as people who exercise predatory practices upon others - survival of the fittest kind. The Living God tells us the strong are to use their prosperity to honor and lift up the weaker - to use their strength to show and enable the weaker toward prosperity.
What today's "weak" do not understand is that the Living God is also the God of prosperity and success ("It is I who teaches you how to profit" Isaiah 48:17). The Commandment "You shall not covet!" is a hedge against the weaker, poorer man lusting for that which God has blessed another person with - aka, the more successful who is seen as favored. False accusation, unjust taxation, and confiscatory practices are properly labelled as theft by God - Contrary to His basic character of not stealing, not even in the least degree. Today's Marxist/Communist/Fascist movements are rejected by God as contrary to His Gospel.
The Living God is the God of all people, thou not all people will choose to honor His Sovereignty.
Yeah Everytime I here this I think of a quote from Chesterton (and I'm paraphrasing to a disgusting degree) that goes " everyone thinks that the lion laying down with the lamb means the lion must become lamb like but that is gross imperialism on the part of the lamb"
"Christianity has kept red and white but it has hated pink"
Basically saying God has the most of both nature's
Amen.
🙏🙏🙏
The “liberation” Communism seeks is liberation from morals.
"Do What Thou Wilt"
This. People discount the influence Crowleyism and neopaganism had on the feminist and progressivist movements.
The movie, Book of Eli frames that argument quite well.
The bible and other religious books are ultimately the most effective way to civilize man.
A man can plot and plan against a king that sits on a throne in a stone and mortar castle, whereas an all seeing and all knowing super being... that will punish you or give you paradise based on how you behave on earth?
That is true power. The bible is a brilliant way to bring about civilization.
You cannot have a civilization until people can be assured that their neighbor won't come at them with an axe just because he looked at them the wrong way. THOU SHALT NOT KILL and LOVE THY NEIGHBOR were radical concepts at the time, and that plus the other basic tenets of the Bible bring about a group consciousness in which thriving civilization can be built. The Bible transforms savages into citizens. Without it, everything devolves into chaos.
Jesus never had sex with children. Jesus never owned slaves.
Mohammad was a pedophile. Mohammad owned slaves.
The difference is clear.
Jesus, in fact, told his disciples it is better to hang a millstone around the neck and toss them off a bridge, those people that offend little children.
Jesus also told is disciples to sell their cloak and buy a sword.
Not even just that, prior to Islam, the Middle East was an academic utopia. And then you can look at 1950’s Iran and Iraq vs today and see what the resurgence of fundamentalism has done.
Jesus was also God.
Hey! Mohammad waited until Aisha was 9 before he had sex with her. For the 3 years prior to that he was an upstanding gentleman and simply rubbed his member between her thighs.
the commies try to get in a foothold over one's spirit by taking the GLORY of God out of the message of God... acting like "Welp. Sure love thy neighbor is good, but I mean anyone could have come up with that." Uhhhh NO.
The goal for them being to take the God out of his own words, and leave the husk empty for them to fill with new-age garbage about 'positivity' and 'Mother Earth' and 'innate morality' and whatever nonsense they can plausibly spew that will lead you astray. So yeah, agree 1000%.
Then we made their capitals, Rome and Byzantium, the centers of Christianity.
Well said Upvote fellow Patriot!
i got two words for you my fren:
ALLAHU AKBAR
thats all im sayin.
It is a beautiful movie. The rarest book. With the eternal truth. Carried by a blind man. A blind man. That could see clearly. A simple man delivering the clarity of the truth.
Ashton Kutcher's wife does an amazing job it that film... and eviscerating Russian trolls trying to set him up in press junkets!
What film.
The Book of Eli, with the black actor from the submarine movie with the guy from the original Superman that played Lex Luthor. /s
Exactly. Life as we know it today would not be possible or at least highly unlikely without Judeo-Christian morality as its foundation. The state of today's world where many have rejected such teachings is a fair testament to that.
Thank you. Go in peace, Patriot.
I see the bible as divine word. Its not so much that following it is 'civilizing' us, it is that following it is making us more holy, and what happens when people do that is: civilization.
I think his point is the result is the same no matter which is the actual truth, something that is difficult if not impossible/heretical for a believer to contemplate. Understandably so.
already happening online
and in selected frontyards
right after we are done with our peanut butter toast.
If the crusades were wrong, so were the Civil War and WW2.
That was not why the US joined GB and entered the war. It wasn't widely known until the camps were discovered.
A Polish spy, Witold Pilecki, reported to the Allies what was going on in Auschwitz, and nobody believed him.
It's hard to believe the extent of evil of which humanity is capable. Most people are not truly outraged until it directly affects them. Sad.
That is the core tenet of the DNC brainwashing ---> there is no such thing as true evil, and there is no such thing as a truly evil person.
This leads eventually to things like pedoapologists and science articles talking about how its perfectly normal and healthy to pay at a spa to get a young blood transfusion or a blood facial, or how theres not really anything wrong with selling dead babies, etc.
The only way the apology will work is if the crowd is already geared to be searching for some explanation that tells them that there is no truly evil person or organized force. People like us see straight through that shit because we have seen the evil that lies in the hearts of some "men", we know their game.
And that game is pretending for the ignorant masses that they are NOT evil. Just misunderstood. This is the most basic and necessary part of the dnc brainwash message.
We had aerial images of the camps. They knew which barracks had been gassed since snow would only accumulate on the roofs of empty barracks. We knew. John 19:11 'therefore he that delivered me unto thee hath greater sin'. We could have interdicted those rail lines, but chose not to. A decision was made - right or wrong - that interfering with the holocaust was not a strategic priority.
That was after Pilecki presented his report.
I don't believe him either.
Except that wasn't what started WWII or the Crusades, try again.
Surely not just straight up shot, like yah if someone’s in immediate danger right then to protect the person then yah shoot them, but like that’s not what the person deserves. They deserve to be arrested and processed through the criminal justice program. I don’t think that the punishment for any of that is capital in any state unless the people they beat end up dead.
You need to read more laws.
Capital punishment can only be carried out in the US for treason, espionage, multiple murders, large scale drug trafficking, or murder of a witness or juror. There’s no capital punishment for battery or arson. Yes you have the right to defend yourself or someone else but I’m talking about what are legal system says someone who does those things deserves.
You're changing the subject.
Self defense isn't capital punishment. Who told you they were the same? They lied to you.
Fucking Christ how many times do I have to say self defense is the exception?? I said it in the first sentence of my first comment and I said it again in the comment you’re replying to. I also am not changing the subject because I made it clear I was just talking about what our legal system says those crimes deserve.
The first guy said if you’re a commie and you’re rioting and beating people then “you should be shot.” I was saying that our legal system doesn’t agree with him and I agree with our legal system, that when our legal system evaluates those crimes they won’t come to the conclusion that they should be shot. Yes our legal system allows people to defend themselves but that is not our legal system passing a judgement on what that crime and person deserve. I don’t think the perpetrator deserves to die from doing those things, but if they get killed in the process then oh well, that’s their fault and no one’s gonna cry over it. That’s different than saying they should be shot.
Yah I literally said that said that in my first sentence.
If someone is rioting and threatens to burn down my home or harm my family or neighbors, I'm going to take them at their fucking word and shoot, not wait until the 80 year old French woman across the street has been dragged from her home and is bleeding in the street.
Yah of course, if you believe the threat is credible and can convince a court that it’s credible which shouldn’t be too hard to prove at that point. I’m not saying you can’t shoot them in self defense or defense of another, I’m just saying based on our legal system they don’t deserve to be shot or killed (though they forfeit protection from the law while they are endangering others). They deserve a long long jail sentence. I just don’t support people going out and looking for violence to respond to with violence. I’ve seen that make things worse too many times. I don’t want mob rule by either side.
Is everyone just a commie now? Don't believe in god: commie. Don't like Trump: commie. Gay: commie.
And why is that?
Cuz u commie lol
Because you are gay faggot and your husband is transgendered.
You can't say the other f-word! That's violating Reddit's terms of....oh...
Get the fuck out.
The crusades were a justified response to continuous Muslim aggression and Islamic incursion upon traditionally Christian lands..... The crusaders themselves did some dickish things, but so did the Muslims
Overall, hell yea the crusades were defensive, n glorious might I add
The crusades were a defensive operation in an attempt to stymie Islamic imperialism. Had there been no Crusades there's a good chance we'd be speaking Arabic and praying to Allah right now.
There's also the fact that Christianity underwent a reformation whereas Islam has not.
And since islam is right about women, women would have much better lives.
Damn those Christian Europeans for ruining it!
The Crusades were righteous
That is a popular misconception of the Crusades. I'd recommend watching the channel realcrusadeshistory on youtube for a proper academic view of the Crusades. There is a big divide between actual Crusade history and the common narrative.
That channel does a great job.
I tell my kids some of the stories of the crusades -- the real stories -- as stories of faith and hope, that God does not abandon us in our hour of need.
The first siege of Jerusalem is epic.
I don't get why every company gets to virtue signal and push their worldview on everyone, but as soon as Christians speak out or have a different opinion, we get shouted out of the conversation as bigots.
We cannot give way on certain issues because our worldview prohibits it.
because christians are particularly difficult to control.
globohomo is going to need us all to be okay with slavery and pedophilia and blood drinking. Christians do not have flexible morals. We have an unfailing compass that never lies. So they can't pull their bullshit with us in the way.
I think it's more about control than morality. The key to Christianity/religion is faith/belief in something beyond and bigger than us, a God. If you can dilute or erase that from the minds of believers, then they'll turn to anything to replace it.
Because Jesus is the Truth the Light and the Way and Truth doesn't change. In a life of chaos Truth is a foundation stone a rock to build a life on.
Just Because they hate us. And yes. Never ever give up.
They hated Jesus so much they killed him. At least we're in good company there.
That was God's plan for Jesus to die
Yes, Christ's death was the worst crime in history but also foreordained to save God's elect. God often uses sinful men in His providence, such as the Egyptian soldiers in Exodus and the Assyrian empire later in the history of His people. The sinful men are still responsible for their evil though--none of the blame is on God.
I think this is what you were expressing friend, I just wanted to add to your point.
Yes. He would not comply… well we know what happened next.
We are told throughout the Bible in many different ways that the world is hostile to God and his people. Satan has waged war against God and his people for thousands of years.
There's always an excuse given to hate Christians that is palatable to greater society at large and seems to make logical sense in a depraved mind without God, but in the end is just a deception used by Satan. Under Nero, it was because Christians wouldn't worship the Roman gods and so invoked divine condemnation on Roman society at large. In our present day in Western civilization, the reason given is that Christians are racist, homophobic, and bigoted.
Never mind the fact that the social order implemented by God is always more orderly and humane than the social order it supplants. See ancient Israel vs the surrounding Ancient Near Eastern Mesopotamian, Hittite, Egyptian, and Canaanite cultures, or how barbarian cultures in Europe in the first millennium AD changed for the better after mass conversion to Christianity. Also see the reverse in cultures that rejected God, such as under communist regimes in the 20th century.
Because critical race theory is not compatible with Christianity.
As Andrew Klavan has said, “a civilization that removes god from life will collapse in on itself within 70 years.”
How long ago was the 60’s again?
Hopefully we can turn this around. I feel like we are on the edge of a great religious awakening.
Evidence suggests we are. Their demographics will collapse on itself.
Hope in Gen Z, the most based, religious generation since Boomers.
I don't know if you have any links available, but I'd love to see more data regarding Gen Z and religion!
The idea is three generations to catastrophe. We are on the cusp AT THIS VERY MOMENT!!
I'm an atheist... but.. the more I study the western civilization, our democracy, our laws, our history, or economy..... there's a pattern with the scriptures, the englightenment, core christian values.
I have come to believe in grand, or potentially even divine justice. There's a pattern to everything, if we "sin" by dropping the ball justice-wise a 'karma' comes our way that can ruin an entire generation.
World War 2 was brought on by massive social injustice.. what is happening now .. worries me, because the social injustice dwafs the one that preciptated world war 2.
Perhaps I will one day flip from being an atheist to devout believer.. it;'s all there except for the belief that an allpowerful entity can save us. We have to save ourselves. Those of us that fight for human rights, freedom and take responsibility grow into beautiful human beings, while those that consistently fail to do so wallow in intellectual darkness.
Perhaps upvoting and commenting on the right posts is akin to praying, if so, then here at thedonald.win, we do not pray to a false god.
Yes Fren… To understand The Age of Enlightenment… reason , liberty, progress, toleration, fraternity, constitutional government and separation of church and state.
Is to Understand America and the Constitution …
No matter are backgrounds, beliefs or group we belong to we are all brothers and sisters in America. And Individuals.
"E pluribus unum"
99% of the time when someone says they are an atheist they just mean they lack a belief in god. That’s a fact. There’s no need for insults. Our country has a strong history of free thought in its founding along side its religious history and booth have shaped this culture that we are trying to save from the Marxist left. Infighting will not serve us. It will not serve us spiritually or help us achieve our goals.
Focus on supporting President Trump instead of sowing division.
That's not a very Christian thing to say. I forgive you though.
I don't know. But there is very little evidence. I just believe in one less god than you.
At least you can acknowledge it's belief.
To you I am. Any deity I could even imagine wouldn't bear any resemblance to any of the current popular gods. They clash too much with observable reality.
Wrong atheism is just the "absence of belief". Militant atheists do what you say and ruin the label for all. Kinda like how most of are liberal in the sense of having the duty of conserving liberty but the left has hijacked that label too
I'm a devout Christian but what he says is technically correct. There's no reason to call him names.
"Atheism" by definition is just a lack of belief in God, which is how kman591 and many other non-militant atheists tend to use it. That said, the term "atheism" has taken on a greatly expanded definition in the modern era that usually carries with it an implied belief in materialism, anti-theism, secular humanism and pseduo-religious belief in the power of science.
There is no argument. Atheism is the "absence of belief". I don't know what else to say to a moron like you
I'm setting the definition to that because that's what the word means.
Just because Liberals don't support liberty doesnt mean, I, as a liberal don't.
As for your last point thats just like your opinion man. You offer no evidence as to why it's an arrogant concept
TL:DR; basically, I "hope for the best" but I prepare for the worst, that and it's good 'shielding' in public.
No, I refuse to take the chance that 'something' bigger than me can take care of the problems of the world. I will take responsibility, personally.
Part of a problem the Muslim countries have is that their faith compells them to "submit" to God. Fixing problems is not so important to them, because God will fix it.
Technically, I am agnostic in my beliefs, but in my practice I am an atheist.
Tough talk and what you believe are two different things, when people ask me, I am an atheist, through and through.
Only when talking to those who have understanding, compassion and integrity, I can elaborate the above. So to you, u/FuckYourCouch the answer is actually yes, despite my starting with no.
"Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed".
I used to think this was silly. Now I'm not so sure anymore.
You seem to be the type that thinks in very logical terms. I think you would really enjoy reading “Mere Christianity” by C.S Lewis. It is a very thorough laid out groundwork of why he came to the logic conclusion that it makes more sense for there to be a God (and one who saves) then there not to be. Even if you aren’t in the market for a religious conversion the small book is a really great read for those who like to enjoy books on reasoning and philosophy.
I would also recommend the other of Lewis' seminal works: The Screwtape Letters.
It makes very plain just how in front of our faces the devil puts his work - and we just sucker for it every time.
We have witnessed the power in God’s Nature, we have witnessed the grace of God’s word.
🙏🙏🙏
Without God, moral relativism will reign supreme on both sides of the political spectrum. Without a God-centered objective moral foundation, you will see a decay in the moral fabric of society that will inevitably effect all aspects of life. Obviously our nation is currently in an advanced state (Weimar levels) of moral decay that has transpired for decades now. So do not be surprised when you see the accelerated rise and acceptance of drag-queen story hours and children being exposed before naked men at pride parades.
This degeneracy happens because we have lost our moral compass that used to be occupied by God. This vacancy is now constantly being filled by the latest cultural zeitgeist, no matter how degenerate. So again, do not be surprised when you see the left zealously espousing their political doctrine as if it were a religion, thats because it is...from where there used to be a life of purpose and order in obedience to God, with the inner peace that comes from the Holy-Spirit and faith in Jesus Christ.. there is now only a life in constant pursuit of purpose-seeking to a political ideology that has gone mad.
https://youtu.be/tTe8RgJtZyk
That Clown World video shows why Civilization is here right now.
We have taken the Holy Land brothers, here we will find solace.
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Trump 2020
THIS. One of the biggest things people miss is that the moral anchoring provided by accepting God AS God actually provides the route to emotional stability and happiness. We are designed to be in connection with him.
The left (folks like Depok Chopra, and Oprah) have been trying to push their own godless faith system of spirituality into the mainstream in order to make up for the fact that they've tried to tear away Christ as the cornerstone of this civilization. I'm sure you've noticed the strong push for yoga, meditation, the idea of karma, and all of the other Hindu-based practices without actually calling it Hinduism.
Ravi Zachirias did a really good book about this exact topic.
https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/why-jesus-ravi-zacharias/1101119182?ean=9780892963058
Exactly!!!
I love God, I love Jesus and I love Mary. God help me because I cannot stand the pope.
Pray for the pope's conversion, because he and other people in the church need it.
The prophecy claims he is the last pope...if you believe those sort of things.
Exactly. CommieFornia just did that.
California Legislature Votes to Allow Discrimination by Race, Gender, National Origin https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/jeff-reynolds/2020/06/26/california-legislature-votes-to-allow-discrimination-by-race-gender-national-origin-n580259
They voted to place this constitutional amendment on the ballot for Nov. 2020. Per Ballotpedia: "The California Repeal Proposition 209 Affirmative Action Amendment is on the ballot in California as a legislatively referred constitutional amendment on November 3, 2020."
https://ballotpedia.org/California_Repeal_Proposition_209_Affirmative_Action_Amendment_(2020)
For any Cali pede, look up the props on the ballot for Nov. 2020. Felons voting, 17 year-olds voting, etc. Makes me sick. We managed to stop a prop in Mar 2020 affecting property taxes. Hope we continue in the same vein.🙏
The Democrats plan for America
I'm an atheist... but... nothing.
I have a perfectly righteous set of morals. I behave well and live cleanly. Religion, no matter which faith you preach, is not something I need or ever will need. I use the knowledge I've accumulated to lead me to the right decisions. Decisions that benefit the country, that promote equality, that bring happiness, prosperity, and freedom. That knowledge with those ideals in mind led me to Trump. Any atheist who is worth their genetic code would come to the same conclusion.
But just because I can do that doesn't mean that everyone else can, and I respect that people have different needs and different values. I believe wholeheartedly in freedom of religion. Just because I disbelieve in it doesn't mean I'm correct, and the freedom of the people to decide their own beliefs is what will lead us humans to the correct choice. It's the market of ideas, and the principles behind it are just the same as the capitalist market (true capitalism).
Though you could say that the lack of god would be forceful removal of religion, which would just be a religion crusade in the opposite direction. Certainly not an environment that would bring order.
So you could say now that my write up was rather meaningless.
Thanks for pointing out something.
Enforcing a lack of belief, as was done in Soviet Union, can definitely be as much a crusade as a Divine-based crusade. In either circumstance, it's people using violence derived from their belief (in the case of the atheist the belief that there is no divine).
As Thrashinuva points out, atheism doesn't lead to enforcement of atheism. Anyone who would enforce any belief or non-belief system is an evil dictator. Historically, atheists aren't the only folks who've enforced belief systems. Our founding fathers got it right. Freedom of religion/thought is the only thing that works.
and it never really works out.
The devil said it from the beginning and is still saying it to this day. If you eat that fruit you will be as god
Where the spirit of the Lord is there is liberty.
Every time.
Make sure to let me pray over you and bless your AK's, AR's, and inked-up thumbs
Thanks You for your prayers. ! Unfortunately all my AK’s where Recently lost in An ocean boating incident
Sorry for your loss. I have a bad habit of taking mine with me out to the ocean. I hope mine don’t get lost.
Thank you. I really appreciate that. God Speed.
That’s fine for y’all. I support religious rights and religious freedoms. I support president trump. And I disagree with your assertion. I posit that individual liberty and equality under the law are the principles that guide us and unite us.
Hate me if you want. Downvote me too. But I will continue To be visible in this movement and I will continue to demonstrate the diversity of opinions that can coexist here. I exist and there are many more like me. We are your allies in the fight to defeat the left and cultural marxists. And I maintain my freedom of thought and conscience is FREE from state control from marxists or from any other religious group.
I'm an atheist, but I'm perfectly willing to align myself with the Christians. I don't think that order can be maintained without a moral framework and clearly secularism is not working.
Maybe. Until then... all I need to do is look at a map to prove my point.
I agree.
E pluribus unum
The enemy of my enemy is my friend
Athiest here, very dissapointed with those who actively throw shade on religion. I find those people without religion to be much more unhappy.
I had a spiritual awakening of sorts couple years ago listening to people like Jordan Peterson (who is also not religious) and he opened my eyes to a new understanding of religion. You don't have to believe it's scientifically true to believe it is morally true. Like President Trump.....something can be DIRECTIONALLY true.
EDIT: Watch Jordan Peterson Bible lecture series. It's pretty profound if you are open minded. It's his interpretation, so it's not 100% fact, but it gives a different perspective and shows why religion, and Christianity is particular, has been so effective in creating productive societies https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-wWBGo6a2w
Without order there is chaos.
When we use reason , logic and life lessons that is the ultimate conclusion. Some just take longer than others.
Every aspect of life. When you get knocked down. GET UP!!!
His interview with Jesse Lee Peterson was very interesting. Jesse basically got him to admit that he can't accept God because it would mean he has to let go of the idea of free will, and he can't do that because it would mean forgiving his mother for what she did to him.
Stefan even knowingly says the reason he is into philosophy in the first place is mostly a reaction to his mother telling him not to question things. He may one day wake up but I still respect him for acknowledging he was wrong about Christianity. That's hard for an atheist to do.
His philosophy is flawed. God is the epitome of free will. He does not bound your ability to choose. He simply says there are consequences for choices and then lays out a framework that encourages good choices to receive good consequences.
^^^THIS^^^
Have you ever done anything that you knew wasn't right but you couldn't help doing it? Or promised yourself you would never do this again, and you still did it? How is that possible if you have a free will and you control what you do?
I used to believe in the lie of a free will, so I understand where you are coming from. The reality is there are two paths, God's path and Satan's path. You are following one or the other and there is no choice about it. God chooses his people, the truth seekers, those who want to follow. Everyone else is of the world and not of the spirit, and they really can't help the evil that they do.
there is no morals, tradition or civilization either.
That is why Chyna tries so hard to hammer their empty culture in with propaganda. Xi talked and posed so much as a traditionalist Confucian. That's right, the same "glorious culture" that knelt to Genghis Khan and his Horde. The same culture that knelt to the Manchou.
Chyna's culture is built on sand. They all know it deep down.
Yep. That is true.
Atheist says “we dont need God to be a good person”
True. But you use all of Gods laws and moral order to do so which are written in the Bible.. its only common sense what is good and what is bad once a person understands it. But that understanding COMES FROM GOD AND THE LORD JESUS CHRIST!!!! NONE ELSE
Oh please. Logic can easily get you to "Thou shalt not murder."
In fact, logic gets you much closer to the truth that you actually embrace: "Thou shalt not murder unless your life is being threatened or ..."
Morals aren't as complicated as you seem to think. But they are definitely more complicated than what is prescribed by major religions.
Instead of bickering about belief systems, we should focus on Making America Great Again.
False.
Your entire understanding of logic comes from God. Reason and logic come out of are what we in the faith call Understanding and wisdom. From these logic and reason are mere branches of the two. For once something is known it is no longer pondered over or given to critical thinking.
Your entire mind-set whether it be with God or against is foundationally based on the ALREADY KNOWN KNOWLEDGE of Good and Evil. Which GOD SAID "I imputed into all men my laws into their hearts so that even on judgement day their own conscious will convict them. "
You nor I nor anyone who has ever lived or ever will live outside of Christ the Lord God knew that killing was wrong at birth. The entire point is between Choices. And those choices are what the frame work of what our environment promotes or throws away
To be or not to be?.
To do good or to do evil?.
To care or not care?
To do wrong or to do right?
To enact justice or let injustice spread?
To love or to hate?
To live or to die?
Etc.
These are not learned in nature. They are taught to us.. Parents, friends, teachers, entertainment, literature and experiences etc.
And who taught us is what every great person in history has to declare. The creator of their person is greater. But should he be obeyed and honored is the question we all have to ask ourselves.
To obey and honor?
Or
To disobey his laws (which you know) and dishonor him by doing so.?.
Which one?
Insisting that others have reason, understanding, and common sense only because your God bestowed these gifts upon them isn't an argument at all - it's simply a statement of your personal faith. I'm not attacking your religion or your beliefs. You're welcome to believe whatever you want. But plenty of people start with "cogito ergo sum" and, through observation and objective reasoning, arrive at a set of morals that any reasonable person would describe as good. Your insistence that it's not possible for others to reach similar conclusions about morals via other paths simply doesn't hold water. Live long and prosper.
All people have the ability to learn. Some just choose not to accept it.
Why do you think most of the world accepted Christianity when it first came?
The men of God of old, before Christ came and then later after his death Christians had to teach the pagan world that murder is wrong, so is adultery, and cannibalism and so on.
These people (men of God) have been apart of every civilization and are accounted for teaching people the ways of righteousness. Before them their world was full of lawlessness. Now that the world does know the laws of God, it's in our DNA to accept it when we come to know it or deny it. That's is the reality of this world. And that's not debatable.
You choose everything. Either to do good or to do evil. Stop defending the notion that man learned these things naturally. They did not and we zee clearly today they continue to deny the self-made evidence of truth and lies for the sole purpose of self pleasure.
You're absolutely correct. I will stop defending the absurd notion that man learns anything naturally. Thank you for enlightening me.
Always felt this was a war between Good and Evil... God and Satan.. President Trump and the rest of us are just in the way, as it's been said. Sometimes I feel like what can I do other than vote for this President, and redpill others into voting for Him. I pray every day that we make it. If Democrats take over, I truly believe it's the end of the world as we know it. Just look at what's happening.....
Yep. It will be the beginning of the end. Trump must win 2020 Or America will never recover
Opposite of this would be Marx saying that Religion is the opiate of the people. They don't want separation of church and state, they only want statism.
Yes. Combined with Luciferism
We need to remember that America was founded because of God. I strongly believe that America is the promise Land, however if we stray too far from God then he will take his hand from us. I believe that as long as a good portion of the population stays strong then we have a chance.
Every new history book goes father from this truth.
AMEN
🙏🙏🙏
It should. Post Modernism is just the worship of Lucifer. ( not Satan )
Glory will be had reclaiming Europe.
Just like the Holy Crusades which saved Europe as a bastion of Christianity we must abide evil for a season first.
It really did. Most don’t understand the factual Information of the Crusades
Look at the Torah and Gospels and how they radically encouraged justice, cleanliness, and general order compared to the lawless pagans around the Jews who ascribed to these teachings. That’s why we must continue America’s identity as a Judeo-Christian nation.
Leftists Worship Death, Destruction and Despair
My favorite line of reasoning.
Atheist: "I'm going to prove to you that God doesn't exist."
Me: "Ok."
Atheist: "Assuming X, Y, and Z, we can logically deduce W, R, and T."
Me: "Oh, I see a problem in your reasoning."
Atheist: "Yes?"
Me: "You're using logic. That's God's domain."
Atheist: "You can't just claim that God owns logic!"
Me: "You can't just use logic and claim it as your own!"
🙏🙏🙏
Everyone has a god.
Most of them are just awful gods.
Some people worship their stomachs, their bank accounts, drugs, manipulating others, their career...
SJWs have a god too.
We really do love in a Warhammer40k type scenario- western civ with it's science tried to come to the logical conclusion that there is no God because He can't be observed empirically.
It's the same as the Emperor's, beloved by all, enforced atheism.
But humans CANNOT do it. We just can't. Look how religiously these leftists do EVERYTHING. Some of these protestors are possessed. If you've ever been around an angry mob I don't know how you can say spirits aren't real.
I am a classroom teacher, and let me tell you, spirits can take over a room of teenagers quick.
If there are no absolute truths the mob rules. The truths of the mob change, one day happy, next day dead.
The sheeple follow the shepherds. The shepherds get paid !!!
The (Real) Secret.
We need Frontline priests to help with the possessions can Protestants perform exorcisms? The thing you see in some of their faces it's not Human...
REMINDER:
White Christian Male Buzz Aldrin celebrated communion on the surface of the moon.
I can appreciate agnostics and people of other faiths. It is hard to have faith, very hard, for some, without proof. We who have met God and Lord Jesus pray that you strive to meet the Exogoneous Creator as we have and join us in fellowship.
Some of you reject any notion of God but accept and welcome philosophical debate on the simulation hypothesis, that we are in a simulation, a giant supercomputer, characters in a video game of sorts, and so on. Philip K. Dick called the controller VALIS. Well, if you believe all that, wouldn't you have to also believe that hyper dimensional controller or beings or whatever would respect Christians first for reaching the moon first and then actually doing communion there? Obviously, if we are in some game, Christians scored HUGE points with that Boss Level maneuver.
If you are a nonbeliever, or a believer who rejects Lord Jesus, I would highly suggest that you hedge your bets like everything else in life and at least respect that Christians were first to the moon surface, and honored our Lord there by communion. If the hyper dimensional space aliens or whatever are watching, wouldn't they respect that?
Wow. Thanks !, and no we don’t live in a Supercomputer.
Buzz Aldrin Took Holy Communion on the Moon. NASA Kept it Quiet
You're welcome. It is a fascinating story, and of course it was supposed to be broadcast live to the world but some atheists objected. God smiled! Cannot be undone, ever! Historical fact of mankind!
Yep
We must fight the plans of a New World Order. Even if it comes one day we could fight to postpone it for like 500 years or a millennium.
Amen
I need no god
IT'S TIME FOR A CRUSAAAAAAAAAAADE!!!!