Provo and Salt Lake have been going leftward for YEARS now (SLC had an openly gay and hard-left mayor back in 2007 or so if memory serves - Rocky Anderson I think his name was.)
Suburban Utah suffers with being close to the liberal west coast, having rich liberal elites descend on their ski towns and having little to none of the violent inner cities of the Midwest or south. It’s the perfect storm of the cancerous genesis of liberalism and a perfect example of “good times create weak men”.
Lesbian mayors for 10 years now in SLC. It's another leftist shithole I won't set foot in again.
There is a huge homeless problem in downtown SLC and they just keep building more free housing for them and wondering why they keep on coming.
I grew up in Provo and they welcome illegals for the cheap labor. The LDS church lures them up from South and Central America due to their church welfare system.
Even worse is the influx of high tech workers coming from Silicon Valley/ Seattle/ Portland and bringing their Marxist values with them to our "Silicon Slopes".
R.I.P. Utah.
I agree with you on the welfare point. I hate it that our bishops just hand out food and money to anyone just because they ask. The bishop storehouse and welfare are for people that live in the area, not those that moved to take advantage of it. I wish more would put stipulations on the money and food, like...GET A JOB!
I have followed the exMormon subreddit for years. Over time I witnessed it going further and further left, to the point of crazy and I reduced my time on there.
My opinion is the Mormon church is partly responsible for creating these leftists. Please hear me out. As Jordan Peterson says, any organization can become too conservative, too rigid, too ossified, which leads to corruption, an unwillingness to change, and for its members can feel like living in a prison with few freedoms.
This happened with a bunch of scandals with Mormon higher-ups and their doctrines. It created a large ex-Mormon group. Most wanted just a little more freedom to live and to think for themselves. However, a subsection of the exMormons went even further, rejecting many good principles of the church, and ended up hard leftists. Social activists emerge either from the outside or from within and lead people to do stupid shit like we see in the video. People like the shooter may be a subgroup of the subgroup - willing to initiate violence, or he may be an opportunist attaching himself to the cause.
I lived behind the Zion Curtain for a decade (not LDS, tho; I lived up around Ogden). I nearly sprained my neck nodding in agreement.
The Church is a wreck, and yes, they did it to themselves. Can't fully blame the upper hierarchy, since that strident attitude reached all the way down to the bishops in many cases (I was once told point-blank that I would never get into a management position unless I had a Temple Recommend. As someone who no-shit worked for the state at the time, that was a bit of a shock. Note that it was once law that you could not sue the state for religious discrimination.)
So, far from being heretical (pardon the pun), I think you're dead-on.
Provo and Salt Lake have been going leftward for YEARS now (SLC had an openly gay and hard-left mayor back in 2007 or so if memory serves - Rocky Anderson I think his name was.)
So, yeah, lots of lefties up in there these days.
BYU students are no longer overwhelmingly conservative
Academia is the root of the problem. While they're allowed to brainwash freely, their marxist revolution will never stop.
What a loss
Suburban Utah suffers with being close to the liberal west coast, having rich liberal elites descend on their ski towns and having little to none of the violent inner cities of the Midwest or south. It’s the perfect storm of the cancerous genesis of liberalism and a perfect example of “good times create weak men”.
Lesbian mayors for 10 years now in SLC. It's another leftist shithole I won't set foot in again. There is a huge homeless problem in downtown SLC and they just keep building more free housing for them and wondering why they keep on coming. I grew up in Provo and they welcome illegals for the cheap labor. The LDS church lures them up from South and Central America due to their church welfare system. Even worse is the influx of high tech workers coming from Silicon Valley/ Seattle/ Portland and bringing their Marxist values with them to our "Silicon Slopes". R.I.P. Utah.
I agree with you on the welfare point. I hate it that our bishops just hand out food and money to anyone just because they ask. The bishop storehouse and welfare are for people that live in the area, not those that moved to take advantage of it. I wish more would put stipulations on the money and food, like...GET A JOB!
I have followed the exMormon subreddit for years. Over time I witnessed it going further and further left, to the point of crazy and I reduced my time on there.
My opinion is the Mormon church is partly responsible for creating these leftists. Please hear me out. As Jordan Peterson says, any organization can become too conservative, too rigid, too ossified, which leads to corruption, an unwillingness to change, and for its members can feel like living in a prison with few freedoms.
This happened with a bunch of scandals with Mormon higher-ups and their doctrines. It created a large ex-Mormon group. Most wanted just a little more freedom to live and to think for themselves. However, a subsection of the exMormons went even further, rejecting many good principles of the church, and ended up hard leftists. Social activists emerge either from the outside or from within and lead people to do stupid shit like we see in the video. People like the shooter may be a subgroup of the subgroup - willing to initiate violence, or he may be an opportunist attaching himself to the cause.
I lived behind the Zion Curtain for a decade (not LDS, tho; I lived up around Ogden). I nearly sprained my neck nodding in agreement.
The Church is a wreck, and yes, they did it to themselves. Can't fully blame the upper hierarchy, since that strident attitude reached all the way down to the bishops in many cases (I was once told point-blank that I would never get into a management position unless I had a Temple Recommend. As someone who no-shit worked for the state at the time, that was a bit of a shock. Note that it was once law that you could not sue the state for religious discrimination.)
So, far from being heretical (pardon the pun), I think you're dead-on.