So you going to come pay my house payment so that my family and children don't become homeless in the next 45 days if I quit going to work??? I mean since you all want us out there on the street and think that responsibilities and work aren't a good enough excuse when you have a family and children.... Which the overwhelming vast vast majority of us do
anyone with children know that they are your top priority no matter what... and no that doesn't mean their long-term future goals, of course that shit is very important to us too... but do you know what always trumps anything and everything else??? their immediate health and safety right here today. Right now....
I can't possibly imagine people with children saying that unless their spouse does all of the child-rearing and they don't have to do shit themselves, and/or are also rich...
I'm assuming by saying that that means that you're already out there in the street fighting back right?
I mean surely surely you wouldn't go saying something like that while you're actually still sitting in your own house not doing anything either... Surely not
historically, the national dominance of a particular ideology in america typically changes every 60 years or so.
So no I do not buy the notion that we cant shift the national discourse back in our favor without resorting to violence.
The liberals started their grip to power in the late 50s and early 60’s. Meaning their 60 years was due to end around 2016-2020. Well what do you know....
We arent witnessing the rising dominance of a liberal america, we already had that for the last 60 years. What we are witnessing is the final death throes of the liberal ideology.
Trump being elected was the straw that broke the camels back, why else do you think they literally went crazy? Yea, the liberals dominate our culture and institutions currently but they have for 60 years and ive seen us make great ground in the last 4 years. We ARE winning the battle.
I believe this is largely correct. There’s been a certain liberal cultural hegemony for the past 60 or so years which was easy to be blind to. We were too conditioned to it.
We’re still in the early stages of a turning, but the strongholds are showing existential cracks.
Academia is FUCKED. So many colleges soon to be insolvent and their intellectual credibility and stranglehold on knowledge and accreditation is rapidly eroding.
The rise of China as the soon to be dominant global power is FUCKED. By the inherent fragility of their system and the unsettling by Trump’s policies, CCP seems to be near to some existential event horizon.
The internet has of course played so large a part in usurping traditional media’s monopoly on discourse, but even as regards the replacing ruling bodies (Google, Facebook, etc.) the cracks are there. For all the purging and censorship, places like this website attest to the fact there is a limit on that power and a persistence of the user base. We’re still too early to see what role technologies like crypto will have in decentralizing networks away from the current monopolies, but I believe they will.
For all the rioting and statue pulling bullshit, they only get away with what they do because the media and Soros D.A’s covering for them. They don’t have a paramilitary faction strong enough for any external coup (In the 1917 Russian Revolution you had active duty units deserting en masse to revolt) and they don’t control the levers of federal power to get what they want just yet.
There’s long way to go and many are just waking up, but things don’t appear truly hopeless.
That's exactly what they want, they want you to show up screaming and shooting into the sky like a fucking moron so they can use you like the fake news tool you are.
This x9000!
The left is in pure bait mode, trying to get us to show, what they think, are our "true colors" of hate and violence. When in, fact, thats at their very core.
Never underestimate the amount of left shilling and inciting right here on this forum!!!
Yes, CHOP was the perfect example of the bait, and Trump didn't fall for it. We should follow suit, to some degree. But also, Kudos to the lawyers defending their castle in Missouri
Exactly. Let's also stop pretending like they're winning. There's a difference between letting someone throw a tantrum and cry themselves out and "winning." Perhaps they have gotten a few temporary scalps (fallen statues for the moment, looted stores, corps bending the knee), but that literally is all just symbolism.
I understand all of that. However, they didn't just take over institutions in the last month and a half. They are trying to do more but in many ways they are cutting off their nose to spite their face- they just don't realize it yet. You also have to ask yourself, "What exactly are they winning?" Their propaganda is more obvious and irritating than ever.
I know statues are just the beginning. Other people see that too. That's my point. No tangible victories yet, only symbolic stuff. Just because we aren't meeting them tit for tat on every little thing just yet doesn't mean they are actually gaining ground.
These are Democrat run cities, so they're not exactly "ours" to lose. I live in a leftist shithole I get it that it's frustrating. But we aren't losing ground in urban areas and we certainly aren't losing ground in the outlying areas (suburbs) as all this cultural Marxism goes on.
Trump's base is also not being terrorized any more or any less than the last 4 years. These rabid lunatics have moved on to normal people, pancake mixes and shit like that. They aren't winning right now they are simply chumming the shit out of the waters with the intent of sowing chaos and division. If you don't see that then you don't know what winning looks like.
You've got it exactly backwards. They're rioting in the streets because nobody is willing to stop them. They're fucking winning. Statues are coming down, building, streets and maybe cities are getting renamed, people are getting shot in the fucking street with no consequence, they've occupied part of fucking Seattle and every corporate entity in America is sucking their dicks.
He's not wrong and you're not wrong. If you wanna be hands off about the govt because you have to work and raise kids, then maybe pray for a totalitarian style govt you don't have to think about and hope for a benevolent dictator.
Those who fought in the American revolution had families and homes to take care of too. The Founding Fathers too, they all had everything to lose with little chance of victory. But they risked it all for the dream of freedom.
I get that it's not exactly the same scenario now and there is no leader to organize patriots on the ground at this point. Also, now isn't the time for it while Trump is in office. However, as soon as Dems gain control again they will ensure that conservatives never have a chance again. They will manipulate and corrupt everything as they always do. There will come a time where patriots will need to organize and fight back. Either that or submit to a communist nation where our children's destinies are ruled by the state.
So you going to come pay my house payment so that my family and children don't become homeless in the next 45 days if I quit going to work??? I mean since you all want us out there on the street and think that responsibilities and work aren't a good enough excuse when you have a family and children.... Which the overwhelming vast vast majority of us do
anyone with children know that they are your top priority no matter what... and no that doesn't mean their long-term future goals, of course that shit is very important to us too... but do you know what always trumps anything and everything else??? their immediate health and safety right here today. Right now....
I can't possibly imagine people with children saying that unless their spouse does all of the child-rearing and they don't have to do shit themselves, and/or are also rich...
I'm assuming by saying that that means that you're already out there in the street fighting back right?
I mean surely surely you wouldn't go saying something like that while you're actually still sitting in your own house not doing anything either... Surely not
historically, the national dominance of a particular ideology in america typically changes every 60 years or so.
So no I do not buy the notion that we cant shift the national discourse back in our favor without resorting to violence.
The liberals started their grip to power in the late 50s and early 60’s. Meaning their 60 years was due to end around 2016-2020. Well what do you know....
We arent witnessing the rising dominance of a liberal america, we already had that for the last 60 years. What we are witnessing is the final death throes of the liberal ideology.
Trump being elected was the straw that broke the camels back, why else do you think they literally went crazy? Yea, the liberals dominate our culture and institutions currently but they have for 60 years and ive seen us make great ground in the last 4 years. We ARE winning the battle.
they are squealing
I believe this is largely correct. There’s been a certain liberal cultural hegemony for the past 60 or so years which was easy to be blind to. We were too conditioned to it.
We’re still in the early stages of a turning, but the strongholds are showing existential cracks.
Academia is FUCKED. So many colleges soon to be insolvent and their intellectual credibility and stranglehold on knowledge and accreditation is rapidly eroding.
The rise of China as the soon to be dominant global power is FUCKED. By the inherent fragility of their system and the unsettling by Trump’s policies, CCP seems to be near to some existential event horizon.
The internet has of course played so large a part in usurping traditional media’s monopoly on discourse, but even as regards the replacing ruling bodies (Google, Facebook, etc.) the cracks are there. For all the purging and censorship, places like this website attest to the fact there is a limit on that power and a persistence of the user base. We’re still too early to see what role technologies like crypto will have in decentralizing networks away from the current monopolies, but I believe they will.
For all the rioting and statue pulling bullshit, they only get away with what they do because the media and Soros D.A’s covering for them. They don’t have a paramilitary faction strong enough for any external coup (In the 1917 Russian Revolution you had active duty units deserting en masse to revolt) and they don’t control the levers of federal power to get what they want just yet.
There’s long way to go and many are just waking up, but things don’t appear truly hopeless.
Hells yes
Bingo!
This x9000!
The left is in pure bait mode, trying to get us to show, what they think, are our "true colors" of hate and violence. When in, fact, thats at their very core.
Never underestimate the amount of left shilling and inciting right here on this forum!!!
Yes, CHOP was the perfect example of the bait, and Trump didn't fall for it. We should follow suit, to some degree. But also, Kudos to the lawyers defending their castle in Missouri
Exactly. Let's also stop pretending like they're winning. There's a difference between letting someone throw a tantrum and cry themselves out and "winning." Perhaps they have gotten a few temporary scalps (fallen statues for the moment, looted stores, corps bending the knee), but that literally is all just symbolism.
Exactly, they are.
Wait a minute, I was told White Christian conservative males are the "System". Are you saying they...lied?
I understand all of that. However, they didn't just take over institutions in the last month and a half. They are trying to do more but in many ways they are cutting off their nose to spite their face- they just don't realize it yet. You also have to ask yourself, "What exactly are they winning?" Their propaganda is more obvious and irritating than ever.
I know statues are just the beginning. Other people see that too. That's my point. No tangible victories yet, only symbolic stuff. Just because we aren't meeting them tit for tat on every little thing just yet doesn't mean they are actually gaining ground.
These are Democrat run cities, so they're not exactly "ours" to lose. I live in a leftist shithole I get it that it's frustrating. But we aren't losing ground in urban areas and we certainly aren't losing ground in the outlying areas (suburbs) as all this cultural Marxism goes on.
Trump's base is also not being terrorized any more or any less than the last 4 years. These rabid lunatics have moved on to normal people, pancake mixes and shit like that. They aren't winning right now they are simply chumming the shit out of the waters with the intent of sowing chaos and division. If you don't see that then you don't know what winning looks like.
If they were winning, there wouldn't be rioting in the streets. How that isn't obvious to everyone, I don't know.
You've got it exactly backwards. They're rioting in the streets because nobody is willing to stop them. They're fucking winning. Statues are coming down, building, streets and maybe cities are getting renamed, people are getting shot in the fucking street with no consequence, they've occupied part of fucking Seattle and every corporate entity in America is sucking their dicks.
Does that sound like losing?
He's not wrong and you're not wrong. If you wanna be hands off about the govt because you have to work and raise kids, then maybe pray for a totalitarian style govt you don't have to think about and hope for a benevolent dictator.
...I mean conservatives cheered and encouraged soldiers to go to war to defend our freedoms(to die and get forever maimed for our rights)...
And yet conservatives themselves are afraid to even speak about someone(whom the voted for) who is keeping the dregs at bay...
Did i forget to mention wars are not fought by childless men?
The reality is conservatives are cowardly and do not care about their country enough to defend it themselves
Rigghhtt...
Well that's your opinion. You have every right to have it.
Not opinion.
This has happened and continues to happen.
It's the literal definition of an opinion.... You don't get to rewrite definitions, pede.
Those who fought in the American revolution had families and homes to take care of too. The Founding Fathers too, they all had everything to lose with little chance of victory. But they risked it all for the dream of freedom.
I get that it's not exactly the same scenario now and there is no leader to organize patriots on the ground at this point. Also, now isn't the time for it while Trump is in office. However, as soon as Dems gain control again they will ensure that conservatives never have a chance again. They will manipulate and corrupt everything as they always do. There will come a time where patriots will need to organize and fight back. Either that or submit to a communist nation where our children's destinies are ruled by the state.