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KuhlooKuhlay 5 points ago +9 / -4

Exactly. Let's also stop pretending like they're winning. There's a difference between letting someone throw a tantrum and cry themselves out and "winning." Perhaps they have gotten a few temporary scalps (fallen statues for the moment, looted stores, corps bending the knee), but that literally is all just symbolism.

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TheManBehindTheBeard 5 points ago +5 / -0

Exactly, they are.

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FromSethWithLove 4 points ago +4 / -0

Wait a minute, I was told White Christian conservative males are the "System". Are you saying they...lied?

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KuhlooKuhlay 0 points ago +2 / -2

I understand all of that. However, they didn't just take over institutions in the last month and a half. They are trying to do more but in many ways they are cutting off their nose to spite their face- they just don't realize it yet. You also have to ask yourself, "What exactly are they winning?" Their propaganda is more obvious and irritating than ever.

I know statues are just the beginning. Other people see that too. That's my point. No tangible victories yet, only symbolic stuff. Just because we aren't meeting them tit for tat on every little thing just yet doesn't mean they are actually gaining ground.

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KuhlooKuhlay 3 points ago +4 / -1

These are Democrat run cities, so they're not exactly "ours" to lose. I live in a leftist shithole I get it that it's frustrating. But we aren't losing ground in urban areas and we certainly aren't losing ground in the outlying areas (suburbs) as all this cultural Marxism goes on.

Trump's base is also not being terrorized any more or any less than the last 4 years. These rabid lunatics have moved on to normal people, pancake mixes and shit like that. They aren't winning right now they are simply chumming the shit out of the waters with the intent of sowing chaos and division. If you don't see that then you don't know what winning looks like.

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Pau1F01ey 1 point ago +1 / -0

We’re AMERICANS and those are AMERICAN cities. Like ‘em or not, they’re ours. And like it or not, the rural and suburban need the cities just like the cities need the rural.

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KuhlooKuhlay 1 point ago +1 / -0

I'm not sure what your point is. Far leftists are destroying small parts of Democrat run cities in (mostly) Democrat run states. I don't see this as winning for Democrats or far leftists. My point isn't difficult to understand.

Many years ago I got in an argument with my mother. She got so upset with me that she picked up her own computer printer and threw it directly into her own big screen TV smashing both just to prove some kind of a point. I stood up, chuckled and said "well I guess you showed me."

That's kind of what's going on now. This is literally it for them and they know it. It's the last cry of a dying PC thug movement.

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2016TrumpMAGA -4 points ago +1 / -5

Let's also stop pretending like they're winning.

If they were winning, there wouldn't be rioting in the streets. How that isn't obvious to everyone, I don't know.

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fakthemods 4 points ago +5 / -1

You've got it exactly backwards. They're rioting in the streets because nobody is willing to stop them. They're fucking winning. Statues are coming down, building, streets and maybe cities are getting renamed, people are getting shot in the fucking street with no consequence, they've occupied part of fucking Seattle and every corporate entity in America is sucking their dicks.

Does that sound like losing?

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TheManBehindTheBeard 3 points ago +3 / -0

Thank you bro. Someone else agrees. We need more public visibility from trump and pence.... to all Americans. His re-election is completely up to him.

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2016TrumpMAGA 1 point ago +1 / -0

Does that sound like losing?

Yes. It's desperation.

200 judges, 200+ miles of border wall, border almost plugged, H1B visas stopped, Wars ended, no new wars, Europe paying its share of its defense bill, Muslim travel ban, China travel ban, China trade deals, economy roaring back in spite of Kung Flu - the list goes on and on.

But you're pissing yourself because some losers are getting away with rioting in deep blue cities.

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fakthemods 1 point ago +1 / -0

I absolutely agree that those are definite wins. The judges are good but I have no faith in them yet, we've been burned too many times by neo-con appointees. H1Bs are temporarily stopped, as are both the China and Muslim travel. The China trade deal and the wall are the best things to happen in my lifetime.

They're not just rioting in deep blue cities, they just shot a guy in fucking Provo.