I understand all of that. However, they didn't just take over institutions in the last month and a half. They are trying to do more but in many ways they are cutting off their nose to spite their face- they just don't realize it yet. You also have to ask yourself, "What exactly are they winning?" Their propaganda is more obvious and irritating than ever.

I know statues are just the beginning. Other people see that too. That's my point. No tangible victories yet, only symbolic stuff. Just because we aren't meeting them tit for tat on every little thing just yet doesn't mean they are actually gaining ground.