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milktoastfencesitter 4 points ago +4 / -0

I have followed the exMormon subreddit for years. Over time I witnessed it going further and further left, to the point of crazy and I reduced my time on there.

My opinion is the Mormon church is partly responsible for creating these leftists. Please hear me out. As Jordan Peterson says, any organization can become too conservative, too rigid, too ossified, which leads to corruption, an unwillingness to change, and for its members can feel like living in a prison with few freedoms.

This happened with a bunch of scandals with Mormon higher-ups and their doctrines. It created a large ex-Mormon group. Most wanted just a little more freedom to live and to think for themselves. However, a subsection of the exMormons went even further, rejecting many good principles of the church, and ended up hard leftists. Social activists emerge either from the outside or from within and lead people to do stupid shit like we see in the video. People like the shooter may be a subgroup of the subgroup - willing to initiate violence, or he may be an opportunist attaching himself to the cause.

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Libertas_Vel_Mors 2 points ago +2 / -0

I lived behind the Zion Curtain for a decade (not LDS, tho; I lived up around Ogden). I nearly sprained my neck nodding in agreement.

The Church is a wreck, and yes, they did it to themselves. Can't fully blame the upper hierarchy, since that strident attitude reached all the way down to the bishops in many cases (I was once told point-blank that I would never get into a management position unless I had a Temple Recommend. As someone who no-shit worked for the state at the time, that was a bit of a shock. Note that it was once law that you could not sue the state for religious discrimination.)

So, far from being heretical (pardon the pun), I think you're dead-on.